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Retired Navy SEAL, Jocko Willink and Director, Echo Charles discuss discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships and everyday life.


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Retired Marine Major Scott Huesing, author of Echo in Ramadi, to walk through the brutal realities of combat in Iraq’s deadliest city, the cost of leadership, and the transition back home. Scott shares the powerful story of his Marines, the memorials for the fallen, his personal battles after service, and how writing became a new mission to honor and preserve these stories. From Gold Star families to fellow veterans finding their voice, this is a conversation about sacrifice, resilience, and keeping the legacy alive.

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508: The Mission Continues Beyond Ramadi. With Major Scott Huesing

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Secretary of Veterans Affairs Doug Collins about the realities of leadership in war, ministry, law, Congress, and now the VA. Collins shares hard lessons from funerals and eulogies, where grief and writing become tools for healing. He reflects on the brutality of “full-contact politics,” bipartisan wins that mattered, and the chaos of impeachment battles. From his close work with President Trump to his current mission inside the nation’s second-largest department, Collins lays out the scale of the VA—health care, benefits, cemeteries—and the fight to cut through bureaucracy. This conversation is about service, accountability, and the relentless effort to honor veterans not as victims, but as warriors who deserve the best care their nation can give.

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507: Leadership and Accountability at the VA. With Secretary Doug Collins

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How to honor your commitment when it gets hard. 

Physical confrontations and how to handle them. 

Doing well in life on paper, but deeply unhappy--What to do. 

How to handle a toxic romantic relationship. 

Developing Jiu Jitsu techniques to deal with good wrestlers. 

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Jocko Underground: How to Honor Your Commitments When It Gets Hard

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Clay Martin, former Green Beret and author, shares his journey from brutal combat in Iraq to the battles of life after war. He reveals how writing saved him, how visions of an ancestral spirit reshaped his path, and why Barbarian Spirit is a call to purpose and survival for veterans today.

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506: Violence, War, and the Path to Redemption. With Clay Martin

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Declared Hostile: This Is America

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Leading at Home Without Anger

(How to earn respect, guide your kids, and avoid becoming a tyrant parent.)

When a Neighbor Crosses the Line

(Handling heartless comments after the Charlie Kirk tragedy while keeping peace next door.)

Finding Peace After a Father’s Failings

(Moving forward when your dad wasn’t the hero you needed.)

Bipolar Disorder and the Fight for Balance

(Using sports, discipline, and creativity to manage the highs and lows.)

Set Up to Fail at Work?

(Navigating redundancy, lost progression, and building an exit strategy.)

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Jocko Underground: How to Finally Get Your Kids To do What You Want Them To.

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00:00 – Intro

 Symbolism and sacrifice behind the 228th Brigade Combat Team memorial.

00:12 – Early Life & Coast Guard

 Knight’s unconventional path into military service and lessons in structure.

00:25 – Joining the Guard

 Transition from law enforcement to Army Guard officer and active duty.

00:55 – Ramadi Deployment

 Preparing for and arriving in one of Iraq’s most dangerous cities.

01:30 – Hard Lessons Learned

 Complacency, casualties, and the importance of humility in leadership.

02:12 - How to Stay on The Path. 

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505: Lessons in Blood. General Greg Knight on Ramadi and Leadership

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How to Survive a Shaky Company

Do You Have What It Takes for Special Forces?

Drowning in Debt While Chasing a Dream

Is Your Past Blocking Your Future in Law Enforcement?

Escaping the Grip of a Toxic Relationship

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Jocko Underground: Would You Have What it Takes to be in SOF?

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Congressman and former Army Apache pilot Wesley Hunt, who shares his journey from West Point and combat deployments to the halls of Congress. He reflects on his family’s history from slavery to public service, the lessons of struggle and resilience, and the values of faith, family, and country. Hunt and Jocko discuss leadership, authenticity in politics, America’s challenges and strengths, and the importance of discipline, service, and personal responsibility in building a stronger future.

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504: Congressman Wesley Hunt: Discipline, Leadership, and America’s Future

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﻿Weight loss drug and discipline

 “Am I cheating myself by using a weight-loss drug?”

Belt test fees in jiu jitsu

 “My new BJJ school charges $70 for a belt test—should I see this as a red flag?”

Discipline cycles vs. laziness

 “How can I tell if I’m slipping into laziness when discipline wanes, and how do I stay truly on the path instead of lying to myself?”

Working at a nonprofit with doubts

 “Is it moral or ethical to keep working for a nonprofit whose mission or practices I don’t fully believe in, even though I help vulnerable people every day?”

Leadership, influence, and ownership

 “If I’m the only one who clearly sees a looming problem, how do I take ownership, persuade my team to act, and prevent failure without damaging relationships?”

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Jocko Underground: Is Taking Weight-Loss Drugs "Cheating"?

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Daniel L. Pinion is a military veteran of the Cold War, Operation Joint Endeavor (Bosnia-Herzegovina), and multiple tours in Operation Iraqi Freedom. He served in numerous Infantry, Armor and Cavalry units and leadership positions during his 28-year career. CSM (R) Pinion has served as Squad Leader, Section Sergeant, Drill Sergeant, Platoon Sergeant, First Sergeant, Instructor, Operations Sergeant Major, and Command Sergeant Major. Born in Ohio, raised in Andover, NJ, CSM (R)

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482: Roll Up Your Sleeves and CHOP THAT S**T UP. With CSM Daniel Pinion.

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