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David T. Cole

Tara Ariano

Sarah D. Bunting

Need someone to share the joy, pain, and shoulder pads of your Dawson's Creek, Melrose Place and Beverly Hills, 90210 rewatches? Tara Ariano and Sarah D. Bunting, co-founders of Television Without Pity, are here for you!

Again With This: Dawson's, Melrose, 90210

It's Ditch Day for the seniors of Capeside High, but the ones we're watching are hardly enjoying carefree time off from school. Jen gets Joey to come with her for an interview with an admissions guy at the University of New York. Joey is excited to see all the sights on her list during her first-ever trip to the city, but she can tell Jen isn't doing so well and abandons her plans to look after her. Sure enough, the admissions meeting is just a cover story for Jen's long-delayed reckoning with her father. After Gretchen tells Dawson about the spontaneous road trip she took on HER Ditch Day, Dawson spontaneously decides to copy her, basically. If he'd thought about it just a little longer, he might have remembered that he no longer has a spare tire. Pacey still has junior classes to make up that he can't miss, but soon decides he can afford a Ditch Half-Day with Drue, who takes him to his favorite bar that doesn't card. If this seems like a bad idea for a kid whose dad is the local sheriff, you're way ahead of Pacey. Don't waste a minute before getting to our episode on "Eastern Standard Time"!

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🚗 AWAWT 212: Let's Watch Josie Bissett In Hitcher In The Dark!

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DC S04.E18: Eastern Standard Time

It's April, which means envelopes fat and thin are arriving in Capeside. Joey is jealous of the pile of acceptances Jack secured for himself and Jen, but doesn't need to be for long: she finds out she's been admitted to Worthington at the very same moment Dawson hears he's been rejected by NYU Film School. While Gretchen bucks Dawson up by reminding him that Mr. Brooks never went to film school, and that Dawson could be inspired by real life and use his inheritance to make movies, everyone else is celebrating the first Potter to get into college. That abruptly stops when Joey finds out her financial aid package will still require her or her family to kick in $15,000 a year, and in this world -- where a high school guidance counselor doesn't tell a student about APPEALING HER FINANCIAL AID, A THING YOU CAN DO -- that means Worthington is off the table completely. While Joey tries (not very hard) to keep this disappointment a secret, Jen is having a hard time articulating to Jack or Tom why she doesn't want to consider any colleges in New York, home of the terrible parents with whom she still has unresolved issues. You, however, should resolve to listen to our latest episode on "Admissions"!

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DC S04.E17: Admissions

We're firmly in the last third of the episodes set in our cast's senior year of high school, which means it's time to reveal the winners of the senior poll. Somehow, Drue has weaseled his way into a position of moderate authority on the yearbook staff, apparently just to rig it so that the Class Couple is Joey...and Dawson?! Joey then has to downshift from acting like she doesn't care but is worried that Dawson will be upset (he's not) to finding out that Pacey's asking Gretchen to give him the house for the whole night accidentally tipped her that he and Joey are now Doing Sex, meaning Joey has to make sure Gretchen's not going to blab to Dawson. Gretchen and Dawson COULD be having their own perfectly nice night maybe doing sex themselves in his parents' empty house, but instead he has to go on and on about how great he thinks it is that when he asked Joey if she and Pacey are boning, she said no, and Gretchen simply has no poker face and just has to flee into the night rather than break Pacey's confidence. Over in their own silo, Jen has kicked her therapy up to three sessions a week, the better to make her way too curious about Tom; Jack is the very good friend who lets her bully him into joining her as she stalks Tom around town AND all the way to Wellfleet. WE aren't playing mind games with you in our episode on "Mind Games"; you will know exactly where we stand on everything!

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🎃 How I Met Your Mother S07.E08: "The Slutty Pumpkin Returns" on Netflix

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DC S04.E16: Mind Games

After the events of the last episode, someone evidently decided the viewer needed to zoom in on various small groups of characters for some very intimate time. When Drue tricks Mr. Kasdan into leaving Joey and Pacey at the lodge, they discuss their night together, but Pacey's compliment-fishing puts Joey off. After Mr. Brooks's poorly attended offscreen funeral, Gretchen and Grams have to tag-team their efforts to keep Dawson from falling into despondency over the likelihood that his end will be the same as his friend's. Ordered into therapy after getting caught on the ski trip with liquor bottles, Jen puts on her brattiest manner to meet Dr. Tom Frost (Rob Nagle). And a chance run-in outside a showing of His Girl Friday sets up what could be the next big crisis in Joey and Dawson's friendship. We've got many words to say about "Four Stories"!

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🎃 How I Met Your Mother S01.E06: "The Slutty Pumpkin" on Netflix

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DC S04.E15: Four Stories

That senior ski trip Joey debased herself for in the previous episode: it's here! Pacey's trying to be breezy about it, given the uncomfortable sex conversation he and Joey had about it last week, but Joey's making that difficult. Sharing a hotel room with a longtime boyfriend who loves you and wants to have undoubtedly very gentle sex with you? Joey, some people have real problems. Like, for instance, Jen, who can't stop slipping on ice and injuring herself, requiring herroommate Jack to look after her. The close quarters and liberated mini-bar lead them to some unexpected places. Back in Capeside, Mr. Brooks -- having ODed on his hoarded pills -- is in a coma. His doctor (Tony "Buster Bluth" Hale!) has to be the one to tell him the content of the "lawyer talk" on the paperwork Dawson signed in the last episode: Dawson is Mr. Brooks's health care proxy, so how long the hospital staff keeps Mr. Brooks technically alive is up to Dawson. He seeks counsel from everyone he knows, but it's one surprise visitor who proves the most instructive of all. Get cozy while we tell you all about "A Winter's Tale"!

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🏫 "What Becomes A Legend Most" at EW

🏥 "Massachusetts Health Care Proxy" from Mass General’s website

📌 "Why You Shouldn’t Keep A Condom In Your Wallet Or Pocket" at Metro

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DC S04.E14: A Winter's Tale

Dawson is wrapping up his work on the A.I. Brooks documentary just as A.I. Brooks is wrapping up his affairs on earth, furtively hiding pills and getting Dawson to sign paperwork without giving him time to read it. Dawson might not have taken the time anyway, since he's focused on a big milestone with Gretchen: meeting her friends. Going out to a show with a couple of Gretchen's college friends throws their age difference into stark relief, as does Gretchen talking about him like he's less of a boyfriend and more of a boyfriend-shaped body pillow. Meanwhile, Joey is trying to barter a couple of precious weekend nights off work at the Yacht Club by making Drue's date with Anna, daughter to the Club board president, a double. Mrs. Valentine makes it clear she'll only grant the time off if Drue's date Anna has a great time, so both Joey and Pacey have to run interference to draw attention away from Drue's stank attitude. Tobey tries to take Jen's advice by being friends with Jack, suggesting that Jack join him tutoring middle school kids, which is extremely cute...at first. We hope you'll enjoy our episode on "Hopeless"!

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📓 Booker S01.E03: "Raising Arrizola"

🗣️ Young Storytellers

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DC S04.E13: Hopeless

Turning 18 puts a person through changes. For example, Pacey's decided HIS 18th birthday should be at a completely different time of year than his 16th. But never mind! He complains to Joey that his birthday is cursed, so all he wants to do this year is chill out at home with her, and she promises they will, and we all know that means she's implicated in his surprise party. The event -- to be held at the Witter family home -- coincides with what was to have been Gretchen and Dawson's first date, and Gretchen may be a little too eager to bag that plan in favor of her family obligation; she also makes it clear that although she's bringing him to the party, she doesn't want Joey or Pacey or anyone in her family to know she and Dawson are dating, if they even are, which Dawson obviously takes as a slight. While the birthday boy doesn't die of an accidental gunshot as happened at Scott Scanlon's birthday party, this one is...almost as bad. And Joey doesn't help by trying to ignore Pacey's dark mood and unhelpfully suggesting that he just try harder to get along with his awful parents. (By the way, playing his awful mother: Jane Lynch!) Elsewhere, Jen satisfies her last five community service hours giving safe rides to drunk teenagers, and you'll never guess what civic-minded homosexual also happens to volunteer with the organization: Tobey! Jen uses the occasion to talk up Jack, while Tobey tells her all about his hopelessly devoted James Dean-alike boyfriend Greg; calling him "perfect" not once but twice juuuuuuust might be a tell. You have the power to join us for our episode on "The Te Of Pacey"!

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DC S04.E12: The Te Of Pacey

We’re off this week but we bring you two Again With Again With This episodes chock full of drawl.

AWAWT 226: Let's Watch James Van Der Beek And Ali Larter In Varsity Blues!

In a small Texas town, high school football is everything. But when a golden Florida State-bound quarterback (Paul Walker) suffers a career-ending injury, can his Vonnegut-reading understudy (James Van Der Beek) save the season?! Also features Ali Larter and an unorthodox use of whipped cream.

AWAWT 230: Let’s Watch Luke Perry And Linden Ashby In 8 Seconds!

It seemed like every single interview with Luke Perry in the early ’90s talked about 8 Seconds, the bio-pic about rodeo star Lane Frost starring Perry and directed by Rocky helmer John G. Avildsen. But is all the ancillary intel around the movie more interesting than the movie itself? Shirtless Dylan, a lesser Baldwin, Shelley Tambo from Northern Exposure, Melrose‘s boring-est leading man, and an almost famous “buckle bunny” are all part of the conversation, so throw on some turquoise bracelets and join us!

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Special: The Southern Accent Showcase

Dawson decides to be the change he wants to see in the world, telling Pacey directly that he like-likes Gretchen before anything really happens between them. Predictably, Pacey's not about it, which is why the timing is perfect for him to accompany her to her college town to pick up the car she left there: Pacey knows this will necessitate interaction between Gretchen and her ex-boyfriend Nick (Christian Kane, later of Angel and Leverage!), so Pacey can totally manipulate them into getting back together rather than have Gretchen get closer to Dawson! In theory! While Gretchen is out of his immediate vicinity, Dawson has awareness of other people -- specifically, Grams and Mr. Brooks, who have evidently gotten closer since Mr. Brooks's failed overtures at the Christmas party. What is Dawson's duty to Grams, knowing that Mr. Brooks is ill? Elsewhere in Capeside, Drue is very much not looking forward to a visit with his father, so it's just as well that he happens to shut them into a Yacht Club storage closet, then break off the knob. Don't fight the natural way of the universe: listen to our episode on "The Tao Of Dawson"!

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DC S04.E11: The Tao Of Dawson

Everyone is abuzz about the big kiss at the party in the previous episode. What did it mean? Was it strictly mistletoe-related, or should everyone be monitoring Dawson and Gretchen for couple-iness? Joey is clearly preoccupied yet also unable to talk about it like an adult, biting Pacey's head off when he tries to bring it up and finally kicking him out because he's...being too nice and offering to take household responsibilities off her hands (like the care of Alexander while Bessie and Bodie are out of town). Joey's martyr complex has the worst possible consequence: she beefs an English test! OH NO!!!!! Meanwhile, when Dawson himself isn't dodging questions about the kiss and insisting that he and Gretchen are just friends, he's doing what everyone has been dying for: making another movie! He's excited to learn more about Mr. Brooks for his documentary project, but a little concerned that Mr. Brooks seems to be losing his grasp on movie trivia. Is Mr. Brooks...okay? In another silo, Jen gets an extremely reluctant Jack to join her for a trip to Provincetown for a Gay-Straight Alliance meetup. Jack instantly clashes with Toby (David Monahan), the seeming leader of the group, for daring to care about his and his friends' rights -- not that Toby helps himself by dismissing Jack as a straight-passing jock. You can rely on us for an episode about "Self Reliance"!

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DC S04.E10: Self Reliance

After being lucky (oof) enough to have found a mother at the hospital who's about to deliver a baby she knows is stillborn, Kimberly tells Jo it's time to set their plan in motion. Jo has concerns right up to the last minute, but since she also kind of has no other options, she goes through with it, and delivers a healthy baby. Kimberly then does her part marking the baby officially dead in the hospital's records and convincing the Carters' lawyer of what happened. From there...things kind of go left. Jane is thrilled to get that fat $500,000 cheque from Chris's company and trusts him to go ahead and deposit it into the account on which he is now a signatory, since she has a new line to design! Except, whoops, the next thing she knows she's getting called down to the bank to talk about the 20 or so cheques she's about to bounce on that account, which is now empty, thanks to Chris. What now?! Alison did not, in fact, kill that cyclist on Thanksgiving, but she blows above the legal limit at the scene and is immediately arrested for driving drunk; then she's forced to call Billy to bail her out when Zack doesn't answer. Sidelined at work and shamed by Billy for going for the vodka as soon as he drops her at home FROM JAIL, Alison decides her next move is to try to reunite with him? Just when we were starting to like her! Amanda and Peter's scheming at D&D intensifies, with Peter enlisting Amanda to spy on Bruce. She proves an able operative, letting Peter know about a handshake deal on a merger between D&D and another agency. But has Amanda finally outsmarted yourself? Swaddle yourself in something cozy and join us for our podcast on "The Doctor Who Rocks The Cradle"! 
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MP S03.E12: The Doctor Who Rocks The Cradle

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