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CBS Sports’ official college basketball podcast is the most entertaining and informative of its kind. Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander bring the sport into your ears at least three times per week with commentary, reporting, insider information and statistical analysis throughout college basketball all year long.

Eye On College Basketball

Parrish and Kyle Boone recap the first two days of Feast Week and dive in to a Players Era with mixed reviews. We desperately need a bracket moving forward, but Gonzaga vs Michigan is an awesome title game in Vegas. Then, Arkansas vs Duke on CBS on Thanksgiving Day!

(0:00) Intro + strong jaw is here!

(1:00) Let’s talk about the Players Era Festival…format, crowds and everything else

(19:45) Gonzaga vs Michigan in the title game. It should be awesome

(28:20) Kansas vs Tennessee in the third place game

(31:10) Maui Invitational title game between USC and Arizona State

(37:55) Looking ahead to Thanksgiving: Duke vs Arkansas on CBS!

 Theme song: “Timothy Leary,” written, performed and courtesy of Guster

 Eye on College Basketball is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.

 Follow our team: @EyeonCBBPodcast @GaryParrishCBS @MattNorlander @Boone @DavidWCobb @TheJMULL_

 Visit the ⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠ for all the latest in ⁠sportsbook reviews⁠ and ⁠sportsbook promos⁠ for ⁠betting on college basketball⁠.

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 For more college hoops coverage, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/⁠

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Players Era debrief: brackets, crowds + more; Gonzaga vs. Michigan in title game; Duke vs. Arkansas on Thanksgiving

READ: Norlander's Players Era breakdown

Parrish and Norlander break down the Players Era Festival and explain the ripple effect it has across the sport during Feast Week. Then, Purdue dusts Texas Tech at Baha Mar and more from the weekend of college hoops. 

(0:00) Intro

(0:52) How Players Era Festival is changing college basketball and Feast Week

(32:58) Purdue smokes Texas Tech in Baha Mar Championship

(42:00) Weekend Whiparound - Wake at the Buzzer vs Memphis, BYU/Wisconsin and more

(1:09:12) Looking Ahead to Feast Week

 Theme song: “Timothy Leary,” written, performed and courtesy of Guster

 Eye on College Basketball is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.

 Follow our team: @EyeonCBBPodcast @GaryParrishCBS @MattNorlander @Boone @DavidWCobb @TheJMULL_

 Visit the ⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠ for all the latest in ⁠sportsbook reviews⁠ and ⁠sportsbook promos⁠ for ⁠betting on college basketball⁠.

 You can listen to us on your smart speakers! Simply say, “Alexa, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast,” or “Hey, Google, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast.”

 Email the show for any reason whatsoever: ShoutstoCBS@gmail.com

 Visit Eye on College Basketball’s YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeFb_xyBgOekQPZYC7Ijilw⁠

 For more college hoops coverage, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/⁠

 To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/

 
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Players Era Festival: changing Feast Week, the Maui Invitational & hoops in November; Purdue destroys Texas Tech; weekend recap: Wake-Memphis, BYU-Wisconsin + more

Parrish and Norlander start with Purdue's less-than-stellar performance against the Memphis Tigers before turning the attention to Wednesday night and great wins for Arizona and Alabama. Then, the Final Four And 1 previews the weekend of college hoops.

(0:00) Intro

(0:45) Purdue beats Memphis, but it wasn’t exactly convincing

(10:15) Texas Tech survives Wake, sets up matchup against Boilermakers

(16:12) Arizona gets another huge win, this time on the road against UConn

(33:30) Labaron Philon leads Alabama over Illinois 90-86

(37:36) More midweek results: Dayton beats Marquette and an awesome buzzer beater

(48:16) Final Four And 1

(48:45) No. 23 Wisconsin vs. No. 9 BYU

(52:25) Virginia vs. Northwestern

(58:30) No. 6 Louisville vs. Cincinnati

(1:01:20) No. 1 Purdue vs. No. 15 Texas Tech

(1:06:00) Nebraska vs. Kansas State

 Theme song: “Timothy Leary,” written, performed and courtesy of Guster

 Eye on College Basketball is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.

 Follow our team: @EyeonCBBPodcast @GaryParrishCBS @MattNorlander @Boone @DavidWCobb @TheJMULL_

 Visit the ⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠ for all the latest in ⁠sportsbook reviews⁠ and ⁠sportsbook promos⁠ for ⁠betting on college basketball⁠.

 You can listen to us on your smart speakers! Simply say, “Alexa, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast,” or “Hey, Google, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast.”

 Email the show for any reason whatsoever: ShoutstoCBS@gmail.com

 Visit Eye on College Basketball’s YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeFb_xyBgOekQPZYC7Ijilw⁠

 For more college hoops coverage, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/⁠

 To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/

 
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Arizona has to be No. 1; Purdue escapes Memphis and Paradise Penny; weekend preview: Wisconsin-BYU, Purdue-Texas Tech + more

READ: Norlander on Mark Pope's crisis at Kentucky

Parrish and Norlander break down Tuesday's Champions Classic inside Madison Square Garden. Mark Pope's honeymoon period is over in Lexington and it needs fixing soon. Duke handles a shorthanded Kansas team still without Darryn Peterson. Then, it's a huge night of hoops on Wednesday headlined by UConn vs Arizona in Storrs. 

(0:00) Intro

(0:45) Duke beats a Kansas team without Darryn Peterson, another Cam Boozer double double

(16:20) Michigan State smoked Kentucky…and Mark Pope is sad

(37:35) Big time Wednesday matchups: Arizona/UConn & Alabama/Illinois

(41:40) Thursday night action and Baha Mar on CBSSN

 Theme song: “Timothy Leary,” written, performed and courtesy of Guster

 Eye on College Basketball is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.

 Follow our team: @EyeonCBBPodcast @GaryParrishCBS @MattNorlander @Boone @DavidWCobb @TheJMULL_

 Visit the ⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠ for all the latest in ⁠sportsbook reviews⁠ and ⁠sportsbook promos⁠ for ⁠betting on college basketball⁠.

 You can listen to us on your smart speakers! Simply say, “Alexa, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast,” or “Hey, Google, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast.”

 Email the show for any reason whatsoever: ShoutstoCBS@gmail.com

 Visit Eye on College Basketball’s YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeFb_xyBgOekQPZYC7Ijilw⁠

 For more college hoops coverage, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/⁠

 To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/

 
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Champions Classic: Kansas needs Darryn Peterson back ASAP; at Kentucky, the honeymoon phase is over. Mark Pope has his first crisis in Lexington

READ: Norlander on UConn’s win over BYU - https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/uconn-byu-score-results-aj-dybantsa-dan-hurley-silas-demary-kennard-davis-keba-keita/

Parrish and Norlander recap the weekend in college basketball. The No. 1 team in the AP Poll escapes a loss in Birmingham, plus a great game between UConn and BYU in Boston. All that and plenty more from the weekend in college hoops.

0:00 Intro! #moreofus

1:00 Houston holds on to beat Auburn 73-72

16:30 UConn beats BYU 86-84, AJ Dybantsa scores 25 points + Silas Demary Jr. was awesome

29:29 Weekend Whiparound Time!

29:50 Arizona 69, UCLA 65 (Kareem could write columns for GP)

37:54 Gonzaga 77, Arizona State 65

38:30 Michigan 67, TCU 63

42:45 Buzz Williams, Josh Pastner get wins against former schools + a Memphis crisis

54:00 More weekend action

1:05:30 Massive freshman performances

1:07:15 Looking ahead - Champions Classic on Tuesday

 Theme song: “Timothy Leary,” written, performed and courtesy of Guster

 Eye on College Basketball is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.

 Follow our team: @EyeonCBBPodcast @GaryParrishCBS @MattNorlander @Boone @DavidWCobb @TheJMULL_

 Visit the ⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠ for all the latest in ⁠sportsbook reviews⁠ and ⁠sportsbook promos⁠ for ⁠betting on college basketball⁠.

 You can listen to us on your smart speakers! Simply say, “Alexa, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast,” or “Hey, Google, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast.”

 Email the show for any reason whatsoever: ShoutstoCBS@gmail.com

 Visit Eye on College Basketball’s YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeFb_xyBgOekQPZYC7Ijilw⁠

 For more college hoops coverage, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/⁠

 To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/

 
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Who’s most trustworthy two weeks in? A toss-up, but: Houston, UConn, Zona, Michigan + Gonzaga all won while not at their best

Parrish and Norlander start with Thursday's top 10 matchup in Tuscaloosa between Purdue and Alabama. Purdue stars Braden Smith and Trey Kaufman-Renn power the Boilermakers to a victory in a battle of old vs. new in college basketball. Then, the Final Four And 1 sets up another strong weekend of top 25 matchups headlined by UConn vs. BYU.

(0:00) Intro

(0:50) Purdue goes in to Alabama and leaves with a victory + Braden Smith was awesome

(20:30) Final Four And 1 (presented by FanDuel!) + the Mississippi River Hawks…

(22:20) No. 5 Arizona vs. No. 15 UCLA

(29:10) No. 3 UConn vs. No. 7 BYU

(37:00) No. 1 Houston vs. No. 23 Auburn

(40:50) No. 10 Florida vs. Miami

(47:15) And 1: Maryland at Marquette

(51:32) More games to know this weekend

 Theme song: “Timothy Leary,” written, performed and courtesy of Guster

 Eye on College Basketball is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.

 Follow our team: @EyeonCBBPodcast @GaryParrishCBS @MattNorlander @Boone @DavidWCobb @TheJMULL_

 Visit the ⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠ for all the latest in ⁠sportsbook reviews⁠ and ⁠sportsbook promos⁠ for ⁠betting on college basketball⁠.

 You can listen to us on your smart speakers! Simply say, “Alexa, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast,” or “Hey, Google, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast.”

 Email the show for any reason whatsoever: ShoutstoCBS@gmail.com

 Visit Eye on College Basketball’s YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeFb_xyBgOekQPZYC7Ijilw⁠

 For more college hoops coverage, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/⁠

 To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/

 
To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy
 
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Purdue beats Bama for third straight year with another big Braden Smith performance; weekend preview: UCLA-Zona, BYU-UConn, Houston-Auburn + more

On a late night edition of the podcast, Parrish and Norlander recap a massive Tuesday of college hoops. Louisville gets a big win at home against Kentucky led by freshman guard Mikel Brown Jr. Then, despite a 35 and 10 effort from JT Toppin, Illinois gets a win over the Red Raiders thanks to Andrej Stojakovic and company. Finally, the guys bounce around the sport on Tuesday.

(0:00) Intro

(0:55) Louisville beats Kentucky at home and the Cards guards were awesome

(15:35) Illinois knocks of Texas Tech 81-77 in Champaign + an airport tangent

(29:15) Bouncing around Tuesday night, starting with Gonzaga smoking Creighton

(34:18) Michigan barely escapes a Wake Forest scare in Detroit

(39:00) A cool night at West Point between Duke and Army + ACC results

(47:35) Florida overcomes halftime deficit against Florida State

(51:05) More bouncing around late on Tuesday

(56:35) Looking ahead - Alabama vs Purdue headlines

 Theme song: “Timothy Leary,” written, performed and courtesy of Guster

 Eye on College Basketball is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.

 Follow our team: @EyeonCBBPodcast @GaryParrishCBS @MattNorlander @Boone @DavidWCobb @TheJMULL_

 Visit the ⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠ for all the latest in ⁠sportsbook reviews⁠ and ⁠sportsbook promos⁠ for ⁠betting on college basketball⁠.

 You can listen to us on your smart speakers! Simply say, “Alexa, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast,” or “Hey, Google, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast.”

 Email the show for any reason whatsoever: ShoutstoCBS@gmail.com

 Visit Eye on College Basketball’s YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeFb_xyBgOekQPZYC7Ijilw⁠

 For more college hoops coverage, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/⁠

 To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/

 
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Mikel Brown Jr. the next frosh to arrive: Louisville downs UK; Illinois beats TTU despite Toppin’s HUGE night; Gonzaga’s awesome again; Florida, Michigan, BYU dodge upsets

Gary Parrish and Kyle Boone recap a jam-packed opening weekend of the college basketball season. 

North Carolina topples Darryn Peterson and the Kansas Jayhawks. Alabama goes into the Garden and comes out with a huge with over St. John's. Then, the building trusters prevail at Michigan State, the Veterans Classic and plenty more in the weekend whip around. 

(0:00) Intro

(0:55) Alabama roll inside the Garden over St. John’s 103-96…how good is St. John’s

(15:30) Caleb Wilson leads UNC to win over Kansas and then he got in front of the mic

(26:15) Darryn Peterson is great, but how great does he need to be for Kansas to be good?

(30:15) Weekend Whiparound, starting with the Veterans Classic

(34:36) Arkansas vs Michigan State

(41:20) Gonzaga vs Oklahoma

(43:45) More from the weekend around the sport

(52:55) Looking ahead to early next week

 Theme song: “Timothy Leary,” written, performed and courtesy of Guster

 Eye on College Basketball is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.

 Follow our team: @EyeonCBBPodcast @GaryParrishCBS @MattNorlander @Boone @DavidWCobb @TheJMULL_

 Visit the ⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠ for all the latest in ⁠sportsbook reviews⁠ and ⁠sportsbook promos⁠ for ⁠betting on college basketball⁠.

 You can listen to us on your smart speakers! Simply say, “Alexa, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast,” or “Hey, Google, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast.”

 Email the show for any reason whatsoever: ShoutstoCBS@gmail.com

 Visit Eye on College Basketball’s YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeFb_xyBgOekQPZYC7Ijilw⁠

 For more college hoops coverage, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/⁠

 To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/

 
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Opening weekend reactions: Bama beats St. John's at MSG, Caleb Wilson leads UNC over Kansas + notable results from the weekend

Parrish and Norlander are back to set the stage for the first weekend of the college basketball season.

Florida bounces back from it's loss to Arizona by steamrolling North Florida. Then, the nation's top prospect for 2026 has withdrawn from high school. He's going to play very high level hoops next season, but is it worth it? Then, Final Four And One for the first time in 2025-26 and a tour around the rest of the sport heading into the weekend.

(0:00) Intro

(0:45) Florida bounces back in a big way over North Florida

(6:00) the infamous Matt Painter video + Loyola Chicago loses to Mercyhurst

(12:00) 2026 No. 1 prospect Tyran Stokes withdraws from high school

(20:29) Final Four And 1 is back…and GP is making claims about his win streak

(20:45) Kansas at North Carolina

(26:50) UMass Lowell at UConn

(29:55) Alabama at St. John’s

(36:40) Arkansas at Michigan State

(44:55) Georgetown at Maryland

(48:39) Elsewhere around the sports this weekend

 Theme song: “Timothy Leary,” written, performed and courtesy of Guster

 Eye on College Basketball is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts.

 Follow our team: @EyeonCBBPodcast @GaryParrishCBS @MattNorlander @kyletheboone @DavidWCobb @TheJMULL_

 Visit the ⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠ for all the latest in ⁠sportsbook reviews⁠ and ⁠sportsbook promos⁠ for ⁠betting on college basketball⁠.

 You can listen to us on your smart speakers! Simply say, “Alexa, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast,” or “Hey, Google, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast.”

 Email the show for any reason whatsoever: ShoutstoCBS@gmail.com

 Visit Eye on College Basketball’s YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeFb_xyBgOekQPZYC7Ijilw⁠

 For more college hoops coverage, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/⁠

 To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/

 
To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy
 
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Preview + picks: Kansas-UNC, G’town-Maryland, Bama-St. John’s, Arkansas-Sparty headline CBB’s first weekend; No. 1 prospect Tyran Strokes switching schools

Parrish and Norlander are back with a lot to discuss from the first two nights of the college basketball season. Duke and Cam Boozer open with a win over Texas. Koa Peat and Arizona get the biggest win of the year thus far over the defending champion Florida Gators. And the freshmen? Just as good as advertised. Then, Mick Cronin is at it again, Sister Jean is watching over this college basketball season and a detour to GP's car history.

(0:00) Intro

(0:50) No. 6 Duke 75, Texas 60 - Cam Boozer opens with 15 points, 13 rebounds

(10:15) Koa Peat drops 30 and Arizona beats Florida 93-87

(26:15) Midweek Bounce Around - Purdue, Kansas, BYU and the freshmen

(39:00) High majors with close calls - Mick Cronin firing himself, Sister Jean is with us & more

(47:20) Looking ahead to Wednesday and Thursday

 
🎵 Theme song: "Timothy Leary," written, performed and courtesy of Guster

 
Eye on College Basketball is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts. 

 
Follow our team: @EyeonCBBPodcast @GaryParrishCBS @MattNorlander @Kyle_Boone @DavidWCobb @TheJMULL_

 
Visit the ⁠betting arena on CBSSports.com⁠ for all the latest in ⁠sportsbook reviews⁠ and ⁠sportsbook promos⁠ for ⁠betting on college basketball⁠.

 
You can listen to us on your smart speakers! Simply say, "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast," or "Hey, Google, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast."

 
Email the show for any reason whatsoever: ShoutstoCBS@gmail.com

 
Visit Eye on College Basketball's YouTube channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeFb_xyBgOekQPZYC7Ijilw⁠

 
For more college hoops coverage, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/⁠

 
To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit ⁠https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/

 
To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy
 
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Immediate impact 💥 Reax to Cam Boozer, Koa Peat, Darryn Peterson, AJ Dybantsa + everything else from first two days of the season

Gonzaga should still be a factor nationally, but will this team fall outside of the top 15 in predictive metrics for the first time in a decade? Has Gonzaga's national-title window mostly closed? Gary Parrish and Matt Norlander debate that, along with other items to set the table on all things Gonzaga in the latest Summer Shootaround episode!
Eye on College Basketball is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts. 

Follow our team: @EyeonCBBPodcast @GaryParrishCBS @MattNorlander @Kyle_Boone @DavidWCobb @NataTheScribe

You can listen to us on your smart speakers! Simply say, "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast," or "Hey, Google, play the latest episode of the Eye on College Basketball podcast."

Email the show for any reason whatsoever: ShoutstoCBS@gmail.com

Visit Eye on College Basketball's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeFb_xyBgOekQPZYC7Ijilw

For more college hoops coverage, visit https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/

To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/

 
To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy
 
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