815: Deno 2 with Ryan Dahl

In this episode of Syntax, Wes and Scott talk with Ryan Dahl about Deno 2.0, its new features and use of web standards, and how it seamlessly integrates with popular frameworks like Next.js. Ryan shares insights on the motivations behind Deno’s creation, its emphasis on simplicity and security, and offers his take on the evolving JavaScript ecosystem. Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Syntax! 00:34 What is Deno? 05:08 Deno 2.0 07:49 NPM compatibility 09:40 What parts of Node aren’t doable in Deno? 11:22 Do we need a hard break from Require? 13:51 Package management 16:25 Security and performance benefits of Deno 20:57 Brought to you by Sentry.io

20:57 Thoughts on Bun and Node additions 26:25 Ryan’s favorite Deno projects Lume

Fresh

webgpu-examples

gpucraft minecraft clone + deno + webgpu

gpucraft example

Shaderplay

Orillusion

28:42 Will we ever see a unified file system API? 31:49 Typescript 36:12 Jupyter Notebooks with Deno Polars

39:11 AI and WASM in JavaScript 42:01 Deno 2.0 features and future 43:08 Sick Picks & Shameless Plugs Sick Picks Ryan: McCarren Park

Shameless Plugs Ryan: https://deno.com/enterprise

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