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This is what the news should sound like. The biggest stories of our time, told by the best journalists in the world. Hosted by Michael Barbaro, Rachel Abrams and Natalie Kitroeff. Twenty minutes a day, five days a week, ready by 6 a.m. 

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The Daily

Thousands of pages of newly released emails between Jeffrey Epstein and his associates have put the convicted sex offender’s relationship with President Trump back in the spotlight.

David Enrich and Michael Gold, who have been covering the story, explain what the new documents tell us and discuss whether they could prompt the release of the rest of the Epstein files.

Guest: 

David Enrich • , a deputy investigations editor for The New York Times.
Michael Gold • , a congressional correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Mr. Trump said the Democrats were 
bringing up the Epstein “hoax” • to deflect from the government shutdown.
 • House Republicans asserted that the emails 
revealed little information • .

Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

Warning: This episode contains strong language.

As the Trump administration ramps up its crackdown on illegal immigration, it has turned to Gregory Bovino, a Border Patrol official, to try to increase deportations. He has been at the center of some of the most aggressive raids and tactics being used in American cities.

Hamed Aleaziz, who covers immigration policy, speaks to Mr. Bovino about his career and why his militaristic approach may be here to stay.

Guest:

Hamed Aleaziz • , who covers the Department of Homeland Security and immigration policy in the United States for The New York Times.
Gregory Bovino • , the Border Patrol chief leading the Southern California immigration crackdown.

Background reading: 

Read the interview • with Mr. Bovino.
 • A federal judge ruled that Mr. Bovino, who has also led operations in Chicago, had 
lied about tear gas usage in clampdowns there • .

Photo: Gabriela Bhaskar/The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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An Interview With the Man Behind Trump’s Current Immigration Crackdown

On Monday night, a small group of Senate Democrats broke from their colleagues and struck a deal with Republicans to try to end the government shutdown. The vote signaled a break in the gridlock that has shuttered the government for weeks.

Catie Edmondson and Shane Goldmacher discuss the agreement, and the rift in the Democratic Party.

Guest:

Catie Edmondson • , a congressional correspondent for The New York Times.
Shane Goldmacher • , a national political correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • The Senate 
passed a bill • to reopen the government.
 • The agreement prompted 
a backlash within the Democratic Party • .

Photo: Tierney L. Cross/The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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The Messy Politics of the Democratic Shutdown Deal

Twenty years ago, a genocidal campaign in the Darfur region of Sudan shocked the world. Now, videos and images of new atrocities have captured global attention once more.

Declan Walsh, who has been covering Sudan, discusses one of the worst humanitarian conflicts in decades, and how gold is fueling it.

Guest: Declan Walsh, the chief Africa correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • From December: 
The gold rush at the heart of a civil war • .
 • News Analysis: The world seems unable, or unwilling, to do much to stop a new struggle on an old battlefield 
as atrocities sweep villages and towns • .

Photo: Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

The story of how this extraordinary situation in the Lehigh Valley came to light — because it almost didn’t.

In the summer of 2023, reporter Dyan Neary received a tip about a problematic doctor in Pennsylvania. Families were claiming that when they sought medical care for their children, this pediatrician falsely accused them of abuse, and their children were taken away from them. The Preventionist traces this doctor’s decades-long career across multiple states, and explores the rise of a new and powerful kind of specialist, the “child abuse pediatrician” — whose decisions can be incredibly difficult to challenge.

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From Serial: 'The Preventionist'

In this special, subscriber-only episode of “The Daily,” we hear from The New York Times’s chief restaurant critics.

Ligaya Mishan and Tejal Rao discuss their jobs, and answer listeners’ burning questions.

Guest: Ligaya Mishan and Tejal Rao

Photo: Tony Cenicola/The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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Our Restaurant Critics Dish

The pugnacious conservative late-night host on his "hierarchy of smears" and the risks of being a scold.

 • Thoughts? Email us at 
theinterview@nytimes.com • Watch our show on YouTube: 
youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcast • For transcripts and more, visit: 
nytimes.com/theinterview

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'The Interview': Fox News Wanted Greg Gutfeld to Do This Interview. He Wasn’t So Sure.

Over the past few days, Republicans have suffered some major losses at the ballot box, Supreme Court justices have expressed skepticism about tariffs and Congress’s refusal to end the government shutdown will result in thousands of canceled flights. It adds up to a very bad week for the Trump White House.

In a special round-table episode, The Times’s national political correspondent Lisa Lerer, the White House correspondent Tyler Pager and the congressional editor Julie Davis try to make sense of it all.

Guests: 

Julie Hirschfeld Davis • , congressional editor at The New York Times.
Lisa Lerer • , a national political correspondent for The New York Times.
Tyler Pager • , a White House correspondent for The New York Times, covering President Trump and his administration.

Background reading: 

Republicans point fingers after their losses, but not at Trump.

Here are five takeaways from the Supreme Court argument over tariffs.

As the hours dwindled before flight cuts, the government spent most of the time in silence.

Photo: Haiyun Jiang/The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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Trump's Bad Week

On Wednesday, the Supreme Court heard arguments about whether President Trump had the authority to impose the highest tariffs that the United States has seen in a century.

Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court for The Times, explains why it seems that the justices might be prepared to say no to the president.

Guest: Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court and writes Sidebar, a column on legal developments, for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Read 
five key takeaways • from the Supreme Court’s tariff argument.
 • The outcome of the case has 
immense economic and political implications • for U.S. businesses, consumers and the president’s trade policy.

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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Supreme Court Seems Skeptical of Trump’s Tariffs

In the first big elections of the new Trump era, Democrats triumphed in New York City, Virginia and New Jersey. They also won up and down the ballot across the country.

Shane Goldmacher, a national political correspondent, explains what the voting tells us about President Trump’s status and discusses whether Democrats have finally found their footing.

Guest: Shane Goldmacher, a national political correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Read 
six takeaways • from the elections.
 • Here are 
results from key races • .
 • In New York, Zohran Mamdani 
became the city’s first Muslim mayor • and its youngest in more than a century.

Photo: Bryan Anselm for The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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A Good Night for Democrats

Since President Trump took office, Elon Musk and DOGE have wielded an unprecedented level of power to help the administration cut the U.S. government, and they claim to have stopped tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending.

David A. Fahrenthold, an investigative reporter for The Times, explains why those claims are not what they seem — and what that tells us about Mr. Musk’s project to shrink the federal bureaucracy.

Guest: David A. Fahrenthold, an investigative reporter for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • DOGE’s only public ledger 
has been riddled with mistakes • .
 • The group has now 
deleted hundreds of claimed savings • , worth billions of dollars, from that ledger.

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

Photo: Andrew Harnik/Getty Images

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