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The New York Times

This is what the news should sound like. The biggest stories of our time, told by the best journalists in the world. Hosted by Michael Barbaro, Rachel Abrams and Natalie Kitroeff. Twenty minutes a day, five days a week, ready by 6 a.m. 

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The Daily

The competition-TV judge changed the music industry. Now he says he’s changed too.

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'The Interview': Simon Cowell Is Sorry, Softer and Grieving Liam Payne

Here at “The Daily,” we take our annual Thanksgiving episode very seriously.

A few years ago, we rang up an expert from the Butterball Turkey Talk-Line, who told us that yes, in a pinch, you can cook a turkey in the microwave. Last year, we invited ourselves over to Ina Garten’s house to learn the timeless art of holiday entertaining (Ina’s tip: flowers that match your napkins complete a table.).

This year, determined to outdo ourselves, we traveled to Montana to hunt our very own food. Our guest, Steven Rinella — perhaps the country’s most famous hunter — is an avid conservationist and a lifelong believer in eating what you kill.

What first drew us to Rinella was the provocative argument he put forth in his best-selling book, “Meat Eater.”

“To abhor hunting,” he wrote, “is to hate the place from which you came, which is akin to hating yourself in some distant, abstract way.”

So, a few weeks ago, we spoke with Rinella at his podcast studio in Bozeman, Mont, about the forces that turned him into what he describes as an “environmentalist with a gun”. The next morning, we hunted ducks with him, and then, inspired by Rinella, we ate what we had killed.

Photo: Will Warasila for The New York Times

Audio Produced by Tina Antolini. Edited by Wendy Dorr. Engineered by Efim Shapiro and Alyssa Moxley. Fact-checking by Susan Lee. Original music by Daniel Powell and Marion Lozano. 

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Eating What You Kill This Thanksgiving

When President Trump’s peace plan to end the war in Ukraine was leaked last week, many felt as though Russia had written the proposal, and to a large degree, it reflected the Kremlin’s demands. The plan set off a global outcry that has forced American officials to revise their approach in the days since.

Kim Barker and David E. Sanger explain the process that led to the contentious plan and why it comes at a vulnerable moment for Ukrainian leadership.

Guest: 

Kim Barker • , a reporter for The New York Times covering the war in Ukraine.
David E. Sanger • , the White House and national security correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Analysis: Mr. Trump offers a 
Ukraine peace plan • the Kremlin can love.
 • To many Ukrainians, 
the U.S. proposal • looks like “capitulation.”

Photo: Tyler Hicks/The New York Times

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The Ukrainian Peace Plan Written by ... Russia?

A federal judge on Monday tossed out separate criminal charges against the former F.B.I. director James B. Comey and New York’s attorney general, Letitia James.

The manner in which the judge dismissed the Comey indictment could now lead to a legal fight over whether the government can try to refile the charges with another grand jury.

Devlin Barrett, who covers the Justice Department and the F.B.I. for The New York Times, discusses President Trump’s campaign of retribution against his perceived enemies and walks us through the judge’s rulings

Guest: Devlin Barrett, a New York Times reporter covering the Justice Department and the F.B.I..

Background reading: The cases against Mr. Comey and Ms. James are dismissed.

Photo: Drew Angerer for The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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A Disastrous Day in Court for Trump

Once primarily limited to severely disabled people, autism began to be viewed as a spectrum that included children and adults far less impaired. Along the way, the disorder also became an identity, embraced by college graduates and even by some of the world’s most successful people, like Elon Musk and Bill Gates.

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has called the steep rise in autism cases “an epidemic.” He blames theories of causality that mainstream scientists reject — like vaccines and, more recently, Tylenol — and has instructed the C.D.C. to abandon its longstanding position that vaccines do not cause autism.

Today, Azeen Ghorayshi explains what’s really driving the increase in diagnoses.

Guest: Azeen Ghorayshi, a science reporter for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Should the autism spectrum 
be split apart • ?
There are no easy answers • for parents of children with autism.

Photo: Eric Gay/Associated Press

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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The Autism Diagnosis Problem

“Wicked” was one of the biggest movies of 2024. It was culturally ubiquitous, a box office smash and an Oscar nominee for Best Picture. Now, a year later, “Wicked: For Good” arrives in theaters to finish the tale of the complicated friendship between Glinda the Good Witch and Elphaba, the Wicked Witch of the West. Can “Wicked: For Good” be the sensation that its predecessor was? Will it inject new life into a movie business that has suffered a historically bad business year? Will it satisfy the legions of “Wicked” fans who have been waiting to see their favorite musical brought to the big screen?

Gilbert Cruz is joined by Kyle Buchanan, a pop culture reporter for The New York Times who profiled the stars of “Wicked,” and Madison Malone Kircher, a reporter for the Styles desk and affirmed “Wicked” fanatic, to discuss what “Wicked: For Good” means for the movies.

 

On Today’s Episode

Madison Malone Kircher is a reporter covering internet culture for The Times.

Kyle Buchanan is a pop culture reporter and serves as The Projectionist, the awards season columnist for The New York Times.

Photo: Universal Pictures

 

Additional Reading

Ariana Grande Still Has Surprises in Store

There Have Been Dozens of “Wicked” Interviews. Why Did This One Go Viral?

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Sunday Special: Wicked, Good?

The writer and YouTube star on trying to get back to the experiences that make us feel alive.

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'The Interview': John Green Knows That No One Really Loves You on the Internet

Since starting his second term, President Trump has thrown the full weight of the federal government behind the denying the idea of transgender identity, and pushing to prevent trans minors from getting gender-affirming medical care.

Two parents of a trans child discuss facing the scramble of supporting their child, and their fears of becoming targets of the government.

Guest: The parents of Allie, who is trans.

Background reading: 

Hospitals are limiting gender treatment for trans minors • , even in blue states.
 • States have sued over 
Mr. Trump’s efforts to end pediatric transgender medical care • .
Trans youth are rattled by efforts to ban gender care • . So are hospitals.

Photo: Christopher Capozziello for The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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Parenting a Trans Kid in Trump’s America

After years of soaring optimism and colossal investment, Wall Street has begun to seriously question whether the frenzy for A.I. is justified.

Cade Metz, who covers technology for The New York Times, explains why Silicon Valley companies believe so fervently in A.I. and why they’re willing to take enormous risks to deliver on its promise.

Guest: Cade Metz, a technology reporter for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Why debt funding is 
ratcheting up the risks • of the A.I. boom.
 • Amazon, Google, Meta, Microsoft and OpenAI 
plan to spend at least $325 billion by the end of the year • in pursuit of A.I.

Photo: Scott Ball for The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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Is There an A.I. Bubble? And What if It Pops?

Congressional Republicans on Tuesday overwhelmingly approved a bill to release all of the files related to the sex offender Jeffrey Epstein — a bill that President Trump spent months trying to kill.

The Times correspondents Anni Karni and Carl Hulse explain how a rebellion started by a handful of Republican lawmakers became a partywide mutiny, and Representative Thomas Massie talks about his role in bringing about the vote.

Guest:

Annie Karni • , a congressional correspondent at The New York Times.
Carl Hulse • , the chief Washington correspondent for The Times.
Representative Thomas Massie • , Republican of Kentucky.

Background reading: 

 • The vote to approve was 
a stunning turn • for an effort that Republican leaders had worked for months to block.
 • For Mr. Trump, the Epstein scandal is 
the story that won’t go away • .

Photo: Tierney L. Cross/The New York Times

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Congress Orders Trump to Release the Epstein Files

The former House Speaker reflects on Donald Trump’s victory, Kamala Harris’s candidacy and the future of the Democratic Party. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and
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'The Interview': Nancy Pelosi Insists the Election Was Not a Rebuke of the Democrats

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