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This is what the news should sound like. The biggest stories of our time, told by the best journalists in the world. Hosted by Michael Barbaro, Rachel Abrams and Natalie Kitroeff. Twenty minutes a day, five days a week, ready by 6 a.m. 

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The Academy Award-winning actress discusses her lifelong quest for connection, humanity’s innate goodness and the point of being alive.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything
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'The Interview': Tilda Swinton Would Like a Word With Trump About His Mother

On Sunday, after a fire that many feared would destroy it, and a swift renovation that defied all predictions, the Cathedral of Notre-Dame reopened to the public.

Michael Kimmelman, the chief architecture critic at The Times, tells the story of the miracle on the Seine.

Guest: Michael Kimmelman, the architecture critic of The New York Times and the founder and editor-at-large of Headway.

Background reading: 

 • Critic’s Notebook:
 Notre-Dame’s astonishing rebirth from the ashes • .
 • The rebuilding took about
 250 companies, 2,000 workers, about $900 million • , a tight deadline and a lot of national pride.
See photos • from the reopening.

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Notre-Dame Rises From the Ashes

The guidebook writer and television personality reflects on his cancer diagnosis, social media’s corrosive effect on tourism and the transformative power of travel.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything
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'The Interview': Rick Steves Refuses To Get Cynical About the World

Warning: this episode contains strong language.

Over the past few weeks, the resistance of a single Republican senator, Joni Ernst of Iowa, had threatened to derail Donald J. Trump’s choice of Pete Hegseth to run the Department of Defense.

Karoun Demirjian, who covers Congress for The Times, and Jonathan Swan, who covers politics, discuss how Mr. Trump and his allies ensured that Ms. Ernst’s resistance went away.

Guest: 

Karoun Demirjian • , who covers Congress for The New York Times, with a focus on national security.
Jonathan Swan • , a Times reporter covering politics and Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign.

Background reading: 

 • Mr. Trump became convinced that letting Mr. Hegseth fail would
 set off a feeding frenzy • among senators.
 • Ms. Ernst, who is facing re-election in 2026, appeared less skeptical about the pick after MAGA supporters
 threatened her with political retribution • .

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Pete Hegseth Was Toast. The MAGA Swarm Came to His Rescue.

Warning: This episode contains descriptions of torture and death. It also contains audio of death and grief.

Under Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian government set up a vast network of prisons and torture chambers that swallowed up tens of thousands of people. For years, those perceived as enemies of the regime would disappear into the system, and their families would have no idea what happened to them.

Christina Goldbaum, who has covered the events in Syria, takes us inside one of those prisons and tells the story of one man who survived to tell the tale.

Guest: Christina Goldbaum, the Afghanistan and Pakistan bureau chief for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Families of the missing are hoping that they may be reunited with loved ones or at least
 learn what happened to them • .
 • Amid the celebrations after the ouster of Mr. al-Assad, Syria has also found itself in the opening chapter of
 a nationwide reckoning • over the horrors that his government inflicted.

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Syria Unearths Years of Atrocities

Warning: This episode contains graphic descriptions of sexual violence.

After months of testimony, verdicts are expected as soon as this week in a rape trial that has both horrified and captivated the people of France.

Catherine Porter, who has covered the trial, discusses the woman at the center of the case and how, with a single decision, she has turned the power dynamics of the #MeToo era on their head.

Guest: Catherine Porter, an international correspondent for The New York Times based in Paris.

Background reading: 

 • France’s horrifying rape trial
 has a feminist hero • .
 • Dominique Pelicot says he invited men to rape his wife, whom he had drugged. The French media call them “Mr. Every Man” because they come
 from such ordinary backgrounds • .

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France’s Horrifying Rape Trial Has a Feminist Hero

Since Donald J. Trump won the 2024 election, cryptocurrency has surged to its highest level ever. 

David Yaffe-Bellany, a technology reporter for The Times, explains how a small, renegade industry that began as a challenge to the financial system ended up on top of it.

Guest: David Yaffe-Bellany, a technology reporter for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Earlier this month,
 Bitcoin hit a milestone: $100,000 • .
 • Eric Trump has promised the
 “most pro-crypto president” in history • .

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Crypto’s Big Bet Is Paying Off

Weeks before his inauguration, President-elect Donald J. Trump is pushing the federal government toward a shutdown, corporate titans are flocking to Mar-a-Lago to gain his favor and a major media company has capitulated to Trump’s legal strategy of suing those who cross him.

The Times journalists Michael Barbaro, Maggie Haberman, Catie Edmondson and Andrew Ross Sorkin try to make sense of it all.

Guest: 

Maggie Haberman • , a senior political correspondent for The New York Times.
Catie Edmondson • , a congressional correspondent for The New York Times.
Andrew Ross Sorkin • , a columnist and the founder and editor-at-large of
 DealBook • .

Background reading: 

The government is lurching toward a shutdown • after the House tanked Trump’s spending plan.
 • The billionaire rivals Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are said to
 have dined with Trump at Mar-a-Lago • .

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Ring-Kissing, Lawsuits and a Looming Shutdown

His wife was spiraling into insomnia, and his children were afraid to go to school, so Jaime Cachua sought out the person he trusted most in a crisis. He sat at his kitchen table in rural Georgia across from his father-in-law, Sky Atkins, the family patriarch. Jaime, 33, hadn’t seen his own father since he was 10 months old, when he left Mexico in a car seat bound for the United States.

“We have to prepare for the worst-case scenario,” Jaime told him. “There’s a chance we could lose everything.”

Jaime muted the football game on TV and began to explain his new reality as an undocumented immigrant after the election of Donald Trump, who had won the presidency in part by promising to deport more than 11 million people living in the country illegally.

“I’m going to be straight with you,” Sky told Jaime. “I voted for Trump. I believe in a lot of what he says.”

“I figured as much,” Jaime said. “You and just about everyone else around here.”

“It’s about protecting our rights as a sovereign country,” Sky said. “We need to shut down the infiltration on the border. It’s not about you.”

“It is about me,” Jaime said. “That’s the thing I don’t understand.”

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The Sunday Read: ‘The Alienation of Jaime Cachua’

How President Biden could transform women’s rights and rescue his legacy with just a ring.

Dozens of congressional Democrats have a simple pitch to President Biden: with a single phone call he can revolutionize women’s rights and salvage his damaged legacy. 

Annie Karni, a congressional correspondent at The New York Times, discusses whether that plan is possible and, if so, whether Mr. Biden would try. 

Guest: Annie Karni, a congressional correspondent at The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Senator Kirsten Gillibrand presses Mr. Biden to
 amend the Constitution to enshrine sex equality.
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Could One Phone Call Lead to the 28th Amendment?

In 2022, seven years after surviving a brain aneurysm that left her unable to sing or even speak, Joni Mitchell appeared onstage at the Newport Folk Festival. Singing alongside her were her supportive — and emotional — musician friends, including Brandi Carlile, Marcus Mumford and Wynonna Judd.

Our critic Wesley Morris had his doubts. What was really happening here? Did Joni Mitchell even want this? Or were her younger adoring musician fans propping her up for their own reasons? When he learned this fall that Joni would be appearing onstage again, at the Hollywood Bowl, he bought a ticket to see for himself.

On today’s episode, Wesley talks with his editor Sasha Weiss about the concert, and what it’s like to experience an 80-year-old in full command of her meaning.

Guest: 

Wesley Morris • , a critic at large for The New York Times.
Sasha Weiss • , the deputy editor of the The New York Times Magazine.

Background reading: 

50 Reasons to Love Joni Mitchell’s “Blue”
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