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Hosts Mike Ferguson and Mike Gibson guide you through the most interesting true crime stories. This is a true crime podcast that spares none of the details and delves into what makes these killers tick. Join us for a good mix of lesser known cases as well as our take on what we call the "Big Timers". We don't take ourselves too seriously but we take true crime very seriously.


True Crime All The Time

In March 2015, 18-year-old Brittney Gargol was found dead on the side of the road in Saskatoon. Police used social media to solve her murder, focusing on a selfie taken with her friend Cheyenne Antoine on the night she died. According to Cheyenne, around 4:00 am, they attended a house party, and Brittney began hanging out with an unknown man in his thirties. She and Brittney eventually parted ways. Cheyenne was dropped off at an assisted living facility, where she visited her uncle. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the murder of Brittney Gargol. After the police unraveled the mystery, her killer said they couldn't really recall the events of that night, saying, "I blacked out and woke up hours later to realize something very bad had happened." After the trial, many people have questioned whether Brittney received the justice she deserved.

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Brittney Gargol

Robert Chae was a successful Philadelphia businessman who was murdered during a home invasion. The brutality of the crime left his close-knit community on edge as investigators worked to identify multiple suspects. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the murder of Robert Chae. Investigators had to use every tool at their disposal to identify suspects. Once they got someone to crack, that person turned on everyone else involved. In the end, it turned out that the mastermind of the entire operation was someone very close to the Chaes, a person no one would have suspected.

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Robert Chae

Egypt Covington was an aspiring singer who was murdered inside her home in Bellevue, Michigan. Initially, investigators looked into the people closest to Egypt. After the Michigan State Police took over the case, they discovered something astonishing about Egypt's killers.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Egypt Covington. Not one single person had an unkind word to say about Egypt. She didn't have a single enemy. So why was she killed? When police pieced together the evidence in this case, it turned out that Egypt's killers mistook her apartment for another, which led to her death.

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Egypt Covington

Veronica Bozza, a devoted mother with a successful career as a television producer, was shot to death inside her home in August 2010. Her estranged husband, Tim, provided a seemingly air-tight alibi, but investigators soon found suspicious activity on his phone records.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Veronica Bozza. In 1994, she married Tim Bozza, a self-employed home remodeler in the Nashville area. They settled in Hermitage, about 20 minutes outside the city. The couple had a son seven years later, but the relationship became strained under financial pressure. Veronica filed for divorce, and it was thought to be amicable, but the police would uncover an elaborate plan to murder Veronica.

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Veronica Bozza

In February 2026, Michele Hundley Smith was found in Robeson County, North Carolina, after being missing for 24 years. She left home to go Christmas shopping in December 2001, and her family did not see or hear from her again until authorities located her alive and well. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Michele Hundley Smith. She left her husband and kids behind and traveled the country with a long-haul trucker. But the reasons behind her leaving are at the heart of this mystery. Michele's daughter was fourteen when she went missign and her son was only eight. They have very different views on finding out that their mother was still alive, and Michele has legal ramifications ahead of her. 

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Michele Hundley Smith

Christina Sanoubane was stabbed to death days after leaving an abusive relationship and moving into a new home for a fresh start. Christina’s ex-boyfriend was the first person questioned, but when he presented a verifiable alibi, authorities turned to alternate suspects. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the murder of Christina Sanoubane. Police looked heavily into her ex, but they also focused on one of her neighbors and a man who ultimately discovered her body. One of these men started changing his story, which ultimately led the police to lock in on him. Once the evidence began to mount, it painted a very disturbing and grisly picture.

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Christina Sanoubane

Marty and Glenna Duram were married for 11 years, and they shared a home in Sand Lake, Michigan. Glenna's favorite pastime was gambling, and it eventually spiraled out of control. She purchased $50 to $100 worth of tickets three to four times a week at one gas station. She also went to casinos once or twice a week, usually with Marty. In 2010, Glenna lost $75,000 at local casinos.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Glenna Duram. When Marty was murdered, the police naturally looked at Glenna. They ultimately discovered that she was concealing massive debts and an impending foreclosure she had been hiding from him. Months after the murder, family members came forward with evidence from her husband’s talking parrot, who appeared to have witnessed the shooting. 

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Glenna Duram

Joann Katrinak and her infant son, Alex, went missing on the afternoon of December 15th, 1994. Joann’s vehicle with the carseat still inside was found early on December 16th in a parking lot a few hundred yards from her home. Months passed with no answers, but on April 9th, 1995, a farmer in Heidelberg Township found a body, and then investigators found a second body nearby. The bodies were identified as Joann and Alex Katrinak. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Patricia Rorrer. Patricia Rorrer was Joann's husband's ex-girlfriend. The authorities zeroed in on her, and the evidence mounted. The prosecution based its case on hair and DNA evidence from the crime scene. Patricia has spent almost 30 years appealing her conviction, arguing that the DNA evidence was not sufficient for a conviction.

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Patricia Rorrer

In 2005, Bob Innes purchased the domain rentahitman.com to advertise website traffic analysis services. The word “hit” was a play on words, meaning clicks on a website. Twenty years later, he believes he’s saved over 100 lives by working with authorities to apprehend people who attempt to use his site to solicit murder. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss "Rent a Hitman." Bob discovered that people were emailing him about hitman services. He began working with law enforcement agencies worldwide to bring these people to justice. 

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Rent a Hitman

In July 2003, four friends were gunned down inside a home in the Clear Lake area of Houston. The community was shocked and devastated that four young lives were brutally cut short. The fact that police could not identify the perpetrators only added to the pain and confusion that the victims’ families and friends experienced. Three years later, a Crimestoppers tip led to the identification of a surprising suspect.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the murders of 18-year-old Rachael Koloroutis, 18-year-old Tiffany Rowell, 19-year-old Marcus Precella, and 21-year-old Adelbert Sanchez. Witnesses said they saw a man and a woman enter the home. But for years, the police had no idea who it was. The Crimestoppers tip revealed a suspect that no one would have thought capable of committing these horrible crimes.

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The Clear Lake Murders

The disappearance of Ben Smart and Olivia Hope is one of New Zealand’s most high-profile and controversial true crime cases. Scott Watson was convicted of the murders, but Watson has spent years appealing the verdict and has many supporters who believe in his innocence. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Scott Watson and the murders of Ben Smart and Olivia Hope. Watson has his fair share of supporters who do not believe there was enough evidence to prove his guilt. You be the judge. 

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Scott Watson

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