App Store

Google Play

Details page - Device banner - 894x1036

Step into an infinite world of stories

Listen and read

Casey Liss

John Siracusa

Marco Arment

Accidental Tech Podcast

• Pre-show: Laundry tactics

 • Follow-up: 

 • Last (?) batch of football (🏈) news 

Channels

Simon B. Støvring • on the 
Festivitas • holiday lights 

CGPath

Casey’s phone could recognize his washing machine chime
 • Apple has a 
self-service repair store • (via Ricky Haase)

 • FotS Jonathan Dietz Jr. on SSD performance 

 • M1-M3:

 • 
ioreg -lrw0 -d1 -c AppleANS3NVMeController
 • M4:

 • 
ioreg -lrw0 -d1 -c AppleANS3CGv2Controller

 • M4 Extreme is 
allegedly canceled • 

Original post on The Information
Gruber’s take
The Case for a True Mac Pro Successor

 • John’s adventures in saving space 

Symbolic links
Hard links
ditto
diskDedupe
SuperDuper!

 • visionOS 2.2, macOS 15.2, and 
Mac Virtual Display • 

Casey’s toots
 • At the library 

Mac Virtual Display in action
“Study Room 1”
Casey is such a dork 🤓

 • Post-show: Should Casey delay a Callsheet launch in hope of an App Store feature?

Members-only • ATP Overtime: 
Macintosh emulator • is 
forbidden from third party app stores • 👎🏻 

Apple’s self-described notarization boundaries
Notarization Review Guidelines
Mini vMac

Sponsored by:

Tailscale • : A secure network that just works.

DeleteMe • : Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online.

Aura Frames • : The best digital photo frame. Use code 
ATP • for $35 off the best-selling Carver Mat frame.

Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

617: An Incredibly Dangerous App

New member-exclusive ATP Insider: Making The Show
 • Follow-up: 

 • John’s [hopefully] (?) forthcoming app 

 • A funny conspiracy theory shared by 
Thomas Alvarez
Christian Kent’s correction/joke
 • More app name ideas…

Experts • have 
weighed in • on John’s idea

 • Alternative space-saving idea from Timm Schoof

 • Using self-service parts for upgrade is not really possible because ✨software✨

Pinstripes are back • , baby! 

Jeff Johnson • 

Reddit post

 • Is Siri… emotional… now?

 • Marco’s 
new e-ink toy • 

Integrations
API
 • Note that it’s 
backordered for a bit

 • New 
Wildlife • immersive video episode

Blackmagic announces immersive video camera • 

_’s toot
Quicktime VR
Matterport

Apple Vision Pro 🤝 PlayStation VR2 Controllers • 

PlayStation VR2
Steve Jobs quoting Alan Kay
 • 
People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware.

 • Post-show: John’s app progress 

Casey’s thoughts on [dire lack of] Apple documentation
Meet StoreKit for SwiftUI (WWDC 2023)
Apple’s Backyard Birds sample app
map(_:)
Hacking with Swift

Members-only • ATP Overtime: The Mac monitor situation 

 • 5K is 5120 × 2880

Marc Edwards’ chart
Samsung ViewFinity S9 5K • 

 • At the time of recording, 
on sale for $720
Jason’s review

ASUS ProArt Display 5K PA27JCV Professional Monitor • 

Review by D. Griffin Jones

BenQ PD2730S
ASUS ProArt Display 6K PA32QCV
Apple’s plans

Sponsored by:

Squarespace • : Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code 
ATP • .

MasterClass • : Learn from the world’s best. Video lessons that inspire.

Aura Frames • : The best digital photo frame. Use code ATP for $35 off the best-selling Carver Mat frame.

Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

618: Type System Says No

• Pre-show: 

 • New member special: 
ATP Insider: Making The Show • 

Become an ATP Member • to listen

ATP Gift Memberships

 • Follow-up: 

 • “Hey, Future Marco” wasn’t discussed on the 
member’s special • (via 
Martim • ) 

 • Can Marco recognize waveforms?

Descript

 • Emo Siri 

 • It started before 18.2 (via 
Dan Mielcarz • )

 • She pahks heah cah… sometimes? (via 
Dave Martin • )

 • Immersive video 

 • More about the 
Blackmagic immersive camera • (via 
videoalex • ) 

Insta360 Titan

 • Software-based immersive video 

Depth Anything

 • Immersive video prior art (via 
James O’Loughlin • ) 

Welcome to Light Fields
Deep View Video

Neural Radiance Fields for View Synthesis • (via Joseph Humfre) 

Demo for the Meta Quest

 • John’s app 

 • More on Smart Update and clones from 
Dave Nanian
 • Unexpected gains in software (via 
Peter Marks • )

 • Why even bother, asks Harvey Simon

New Vision Pro content • — again!

Apple and bootable macOS backups • 

Mike Bombich at Carbon Copy Cloner • has 
thoughts • 

Original blog post from May 2021
Secure boot
asr: Apple Software Restore

 • Ask ATP: 

 • Does the new 
Recents • item in Finder conflict with Apple’s privacy stance? (via Cira Mazzola)

 • What’s the 
correct location to save random scripts? (via tuckerk)

~/bin
/usr/local/bin

Do we use the macOS firewall? (via Saul Sutherland)
What are we using for cameras these days? (via Torstein)

Fuji X-T5: black recommended for control legibility

27mm pancake (41mm equiv.)
16-50 zoom (24-76mm equiv.): small, light, great quality
16-55 f/2.8 II zoom (24-84mm equiv.): surprisingly small and light for f/2.8, great quality

Fuji GFX 100S (old version; this is the current one)

50mm “pancake” (40mm equiv.)

Olympus OM-D E-M10
Sony a7 III

SEL2470GM2 Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM II

Post-show: Erin’s Volvo XC90 PHEV, ~6 months on

Including a detour to discuss professional Christmas light installation

Members-only ATP Overtime: The Best & Worst of 2024

Sponsored by:

Members like you! Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

619: Master Plan to Take Over the World

• Pre-show: 

 • Holiday results 

Steven Levy: Gone, Without a Trace

 • Casey’s impending mess

 • John needs technical support

 • Follow-up: 

 • Satirical posts about gas cars from the perspective of EV owners 

FotS Spencer’s find • (discussed on the show)

The one we were actually thinking of • (
found afterward by K • , thanks!)

 • On 
Recents • in the Finder sidebar 

Michael Starke • points out it isn’t new

Odin • points out it’s a default

Joe Lion • has complaints

 • Possible next-generation Vision Pro displays (via Erich Jurgens) 

Vison Pro teardown
Samsung’s screen breakthrough
Sony’s OLED microdisplay

Be suspect of iPhone Mirroring on corporate Macs • 

Original blog post
~/Library/Daemon Containers/{…}/Data/Library/Caches

 • iOS 18 Photos hate (via 
Quinn • )

Apple’s Wi-Fi & Bluetooth chip, and Magic Mouse update? • 

MKBHD asks Tim Cook about the Magic Mouse

 • Post-show: Casey has joined the 
YoLink • bandwagon 

Casey’s super-shady installation
LoRa
Casey’s starter pack
YoLink FAQ
John’s starter pack
Water Leak Detector
YoLink store at Amazon

Members-only • ATP Overtime: Fast Directory Sizing 

 • WWDC 2016 #701: Introducing Apple File System 

Direct video link
Slides PDF

About Apple File System
Apple File System Reference
dirstat.h
dirstat.c

Sponsored by:

Squarespace • : Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code 
ATP • .

Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

620: Mostly Cookies

• Pre-show: Our AirPods are trying to talk to us but we can’t understand them 

20k Hz • 

The Sound of Apple 1.0
The Sound of Apple 2.0
Auto-Tone (Rivian)

statuslight.com

 • Follow-up: 

 • That gas car review post that Marco was thinking of 

Former example
Actual link we couldn’t [previously] find • (via 
K • )

Another example
And another

 • The Find My app 
can • make Macs make noise (via 
Miles • )

 • Maybe iOS 18’s Photos app isn’t all bad? (via Tim Luft)

 • The 
Magic Mouse • 

 • The 
Apology Mouse • did not have side buttons

 • The 
Mighty Mouse • did

MKBHD’s blind ranking interview with Tim Cook • 

Editorialized reel

 • What will the new one be? 

Ridiculous mouse rumor • 

Gurman’s take
Hello, Computer

Death to buttons?
Death to ports? (In the name of handedness)
 • Maybe ape the 
Logitech MX Anywhere • ? (via 
Karan J • )

Perhaps a common charging approach?

 • Apple 
already makes Wi-Fi & Bluetooth chips • (via 
Ian Williamson • )

Meshtastic • is another application for 
John and Casey’s new favorite thing, LoRa • (via 
James Andrews • )

CES 2025 • 

 • TVs 

 • What’s John got his eyes on?

 • Sony 💔

 • Samsung’s new 
QD-OLED • 

HDTVTest
Digital Trends

LG’s flagship goes MLA → Tandem OLED • 

Microlens
Tandem OLED

Panasonic talks about the new LG panel • 

 • “Primary RGB Tandem OLED Panel”

HDTVTest on the Z95B

More “AI” coming to TVs • ☹️

Big TVs are big

LG Unveils UltraFine 6K Display with Thunderbolt 5 • 

 • Recent ATP Overtime on monitors was in 
Episode #618
Dell UltraSharp 32 6K Monitor “U3224KB”

Dell no longer makes XPS computers • 

Mocked at their own launch • is not a great look

Engadget’s take

 • Nvidia’s announcements 

Nvidia announces RTX 5090 and 5080 GPUs • 

DLSS 4 • 

Explainer video from Nvidia

Deep learning super sampling
John’s post featuring a video about the responsiveness of touch interfaces

Nvidia AI supercomputer “Digits”
~~Concepts of~~ a plan for desktop CPU

 • TestFlight access to John’s app is [likely] coming for 
ATP members • only

 • Post-show: 

 • Thanks, 
Patrons • 💙

 • Marco bought something. 

HDCP

Members-only • ATP Overtime: Apple Intelligence summaries 
may get warning labels • 

 • BBC 
report 1 • and 
report 2
Apple’s response
Allen Pike’s Apple Intelligence evaluation

Sponsored by:

DeleteMe • : Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online.

Wildgrain • : Free croissants in every box and $30 off your first box.

Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

621: I’ll Meet You Any Time You Want

• Follow-up: 

 • AirPod noises 

Gui Rambo • & 
AirBuddy
 • One of the noises is “the case battery is low” (via Zach) 

 • Also, more on status lights (via Tom French)

 • Another noise is a calibration noise (via 
Ian Williamson • ) 

Knowledge base

How to turn off charging sounds
Look, ma! We’re famous!
AirPod Noises • (via Patch)

 • TVs at 
CES 2025 • 

Hisense’s 116UX with RGB mini-backlight • 

Digital Trends coverage
HDTVTest coverage

DLSS • 

 • History (via Hampus Jensen)

 • Explanation (via 
flunkedflank • )

Digital Foundry explanation video

 • Mac monitors 

 • Some foreign options (via Henry Chen) 

MacRumors thread
Kuycon G27-X

 • Another option (via Tim Ngwena) 

Asus ProArt Display 6K PA32QCV
Quick look video
DisplayHDR 600 spec

Dynamic Island • 
Live Alert • (via 
Dan Engler • )

 • 🤮 
Tim Cook donates $1 million to Trump inaguration • 🤮 

The Verge
Google and Microsoft join in
Citizens United
Nvidia bends a knee
Charles Erwin Wilson’s nomination for Secretary of Defense

 • TestFlight subscriptions on macOS

TestFlight for ATP members • 

Name reveal
Manage subscriptions API

 • Marco and Casey price John’s app

 • Post-show 
Neutral • : 

 • Winter report card for Tina’s Civic

 • Casey has 
connected Erin’s car • to 
Home Assistant
 • Marco’s new[-ish] car update

Members-only • ATP Overtime: Honda EVs at CES 

Afeela (Honda 🤝🏻 Sony) 1
Honda Zero • 

Ars Technica

Acura NSX
F-4 Phantom II
F-16 Fighting Falcon

Sponsored by:

 • Members like 
you • ! 
Become a member • for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

622: Duplicate Garbage Generation Process

• Pre-show: #GALP 🏳️‍🌈❤️🏳️‍⚧️ 

Jeff Atwood: Stay Gold, America

 • Follow-up: 

Apple pauses notification summaries for news apps
 • Marco’s BMW 
does • have dual-screen CarPlay

Acura RSX: Honda’s first all-original EV
Another 5K monitor enters the arena: ViewSonic VP2788-5K • 

Thom Bullock’s tweet
As per Dave Hamilton (of Mag Geek Gab), $800!

 • Fast directory sizing lives! 

/System/Library/Filesystems/apfs.fs/Contents/Resources/apfs.util
man apfs.util

 • Apple sample code is on GitHub (via David 
Rönnqvist • ) 

Backyard Birds
Food Truck

Video of an iPhone 16 Pro upgrade 128 GB → 1 TB • (via Joe Beninato) 

Also on YouTube

 • Tim Cook on 
Table Manners with Jessie & Lennie Ware • 

Overcast link

 • Hyperspace updates 

Van Halen’s Brown M&Ms
John’s Hyperspace Instructions

 • Ask ATP: 

 • What should a nerd consider when buying a house? (via Jeremy Kelleher) 

MoCA

 • Post-show: Casey’s 
Rube Goldberg • machine… simplified? 

ATP #376: Monogamous Gaming Lifestyle
Raspberry Pi Zero WH
UDP
Homebridge
Home Assistant
MQTT • 

Mosquitto

Eric Welander

Members-only • ATP Overtime: 
Nintendo Switch 2 announced • 

The Verge coverage

Sponsored by:

DeleteMe • : Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Use code 
ATP • .

Squarespace • : Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code 
ATP • .

Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

623: It’s About Human Connection

• 🗣️ New 
ATP Movie Club • Special! 
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
 • Follow-up: 

 • Honda Prologue vs. GM equivalents (via Matt Rigby)

 • Apple insists it’s still going to 
make fetch happen • 
ship next-generation CarPlay
 • Handheld gaming PCs are 
having a moment • 

Lenovo Legion Go S

Ryan London • is trolling John 

Black
Brown

 • John has so much RAM, he can’t even remember how much he has

 • Hyperspace scrolling updates 

AppKit • vs. 
WebKit
NSCell • vs. 
NSTableViewCell
Every UUID
Writing down every UUID

 • Not all phone jacks are created equal (via John Haydon)

 • Casey’s notification/LED project 

 • Garage door ↔ home assistant was already sorted 

Home Assistant Nice G.O. integration
ratgdo

ESP32 • 

ESPHome

 • Did you know you can just straight-up 
cut some LED strips • ‽ (via Kiel Olesen) 

WS2812B
Candy buttons

 • Historical commission application process

 • Switch replacement options: 

HomeSeer HS-WX300 • (via 
Drew Stephens • )

Inovelli Smart Dimmer • (via everyone, including 
Drew Stephens • )

DeepSeek • causes a 
tech stock sell-off • 

Siri Is Super Dumb and Getting Dumber
Ben Thompson’s FAQ
DeepSeek-V3 paper
DeepSeek distilled GPT-4o?
 • R1 is more open than 
Open • AI 

OpenAI’s justification for hiding chain of thought

Interview with DeepSeek CEO Liang Wenfeng
 • R1 censorship 

Example 1
Example 2 • (via Greg Pierce)

Example 3 • (via Gruber)

Prompt engineering
The Questions the Chinese Government Doesn’t Want DeepSeek AI to Answer
Self-hosted doesn’t seem to censor

 • Post-show: Marco wants to do some local web development 

x86 images on Apple Silicon

Members-only • ATP Overtime: Sonos Shakeup 

Sonos CEO Patrick Spence exits • ✌️

…and also Chief Product Officer Maxime Boulat-Merlin • ✌️

…and also Chief Commercial Officer Deidre Findlay
Wall Street Journal coverage
The Last King of Scotland

Sponsored by:

 • Members like 
you • ! 
Become a member • for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

624: Do Less Math in Computers

• Pre-show: BBQ 

ZZQ
Q

 • Follow-up: 

 • New immersive video: 
Man vs. Beast
“Historical Commission” • ?

 • Sonos volume changes are local

 • DeepSeek censorship mechanism (via 
Matthew Cave • )

 • Docker 

 • Rosetta (via Brian Reiter) 

Hypervisor.framework

 • Docker vs. 
OrbStack • (also via Brian Reiter)

 • Sending email 

Mailhog • (via Matt Barlow)

Mailpit • (via John Caruso)

Maildev • (via Yves Serrano)

ddev.com • (via 
Bram Esposito • )

 • Also consider 
Development Containers • (via Dewald Reynecke)

 • Marco’s TV audio sync issues 

Match Format • and 
Match Dynamic Range • (via 
Marco Arment • )

 • Quick Media Switching 

Previously on ATP…
QMS marketing page
Demo video • (via 
Nit • )

Apple Invites • 

App Store
Web
Competitive (and very similar) app Partiful
It’s not great on Android
Demo video from Stephen Robles
Flighty
Sorry, iPad

Pornography on the iPhone • 

AltStore’s post
Riley’s response
AltStore’s second response
Jason’s take

 • Ask ATP: 

 • Why are Casey and Marco so excited for cellular Macs? (via Matthew Fenselau)

 • Should one use their personal Apple ID on a corporate Mac (via Stephen Swift) 

Localsend
 • ↪️ 
Gruber
 • ↪️ 
Underscore
Luna Display
Synergy

 • Post-show: Marco had a good weekend. 

Dante
Food Safety Talk

Members-only • ATP Overtime: Subsequent Sonos Stuff 

Sonos’ take on the Apple TV? • 

Ventura OS?

Sonos has another round of layoffs • 

Letter from interim CEO Tom Conrad

Sponsored by:

Squarespace • : Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code 
atp • .

DeleteMe • : Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online.

Wildgrain • : Free croissants in every box and $30 off your first box.

Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

625: Time and Smoke

• Follow-up: 

Flighty • has other perks (via Stephen Klinck)

 • First reports of Invites use in the wild (via Jim Weinert)

 • You can use a cable with 
Sidecar • (via 
Matt West • )

 • Why not use a Wi-Fi hotspot for “cellar Macs”? 

Tailgate Tub

 • Why not AirPlay to Sonos speakers? (via Ryan Powers)

 • DeepSeek censorship across models (via Sebastian Raschka) 

Technical report

 • Has Apple ever… 
used • … 
Screen Time • ? (via 
Jonathan • )

 • macOS UNIX certification (via Paulo Pinto) 

Thom at OSnews

Migrate purchases from one Apple Account to another
 • The new JoyCons 
do act as a mouse
 • An alternative for Apple TV audio (via Nicholas Correnti) 

/r/TVTooHigh

 • Casey’s new arrivals 

WS2812B Addressable LED strip • 

Home is Where the Smart Is
WLED
ESP32

TRMNL

 • Hyperspace updates 

 • Reclaim 1️⃣ file for real!

 • Slack

 • An aside about bug reporting

Apple ordered to open encrypted user accounts globally for the UK • 

Original Washington Post article
BBC coverage

ELEGNT: Expressive & Functional Movement Design for Non-Anthropomorphic Robot
 • Ask ATP: 

 • What planning/wireframing tools do we use? (via Glen Lam)

 • Is 
HFS+ • still relevant in 2025? (via Mike Hatfield) 

QNAP

 • Would John tell us more about the many pieces of detritus associated with files? (via Leon Cowle)

 • Post-show: Restaurant-tech update 

Dante
Ubiquiti Flex • (Useful little PoE switch)

Ubiquiti Flex 2.5G PoE • (2.5G version with 10G uplink)

Ubiquiti Switch Flex XG • (10G switch)

Members-only • ATP Overtime: 
iOS 19 UI rumors and the design language of Apple Invites • 

Jon Prosser’s video
Invites & Sports apps

Sponsored by:

HelloFresh • : America’s #1 Meal Kit.

Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

626: No Longer ery Good

• Ebook-publishing woes and trying to coordinate a specific release date.

 • Apple hiring the CEO of Burberry to head their retail division, and the 
Louis Vuitton logo • .

 • The challenges of retail leadership.

 • Touch ID impressions after a weekend of heavy use, and whether you should keep your phone secure for 
other • people's benefit.

 • How Touch ID could be used in Macs, and whether ARM MacBooks would be worth the transition costs.

 • Speculation on next week's product announcements.

 • Where 
a potential 12" Retina MacBook Pro • could fit in the lineup.

Sponsored by:

Transporter • : Your own private cloud-storage drive. Get $50 off with discount code 
ATP50 • through November 11.

Squarespace • : Everything you need to create an exceptional website. Use promo code 
ATP10 • for 10% off.

35: Sea-Level Executives

Listen and read

Other podcasts you might like ...