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Warren Parad

Will Button

Come listen to experts in building infrastructure and enabling development and deployment processes discuss the ideas and technologies involved in DevOps.

Adventures in DevOps

Shimon Tolts is the CEO datree.io. Shimon talks the panel through an outage he experienced while working for a previous employer. He breaks down the situation and the explains the types of misconfiguration that caused his outage and how these things can cause problems in other applications as well.

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datree.ioTwitter: Shimon Tolts ( @shimontolts )
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Gaining Stability with Rule Based Policies with Shimon Tolts - DevOps 226

Eyar Zilberman joins the adventure to discuss Kubernetes schema validation tools.The panel jumps in and discusses the power of and the pros and cons of the different kinds of schema validations.

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Why you need to use Kubernetes schema validation toolsA Deep Dive Into Kubernetes Schema ValidationDatree.ioEyar Zilberman - DEV CommunityLinkedIn: Eyar ZilbermanTwitter: Eyar Zilberman ( @eyarzilb )
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Kubernetes Schema Validation Tools with Eyar Zilberman - DevOps 227

In today's episode, Will and Jillian dive deep into the evolving landscape of Salesforce DevOps, joined by the experienced Vernon Keenan. This episode covers a range of critical topics including recent changes in Salesforce's AI product offerings and the complexities surrounding their pricing. Vernon takes us on his personal journey from telecom to pioneering a tax engine on Salesforce, leading to his current focus on Go and Kubernetes-driven DevOps solutions.
They unpack the challenges developers face with Salesforce's SFDX and metadata API, explore how companies like Capado, Flowsome, and Gearset are tackling these issues, and discuss innovative approaches from firms like Elements Cloud. The conversation also ventures into the realm of cognitive DevOps, AI-driven virtual employees, and the economic and societal impacts of these technologies. Additionally, they touch upon the shifting responsibilities in Salesforce management and the rising importance of CIOs in this space.
Whether you're grappling with Salesforce’s limitations or seeking insights on how AI is transforming the DevOps field, this episode is packed with expert advice, industry insights, and forward-looking perspectives. Stay tuned, as they also address public policy concerns, the potential for job displacement, and the future of SaaS DevOps. Listen in and join as they navigate the future of technology and workforce transformation!

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LinkedIn: Vernon Keenan

Navigating Salesforce DevOps Challenges and AI Innovations - DevOps 228

Ready to show off your coding skills to the world? Not so fast. In this episode, Will and Jillian discuss why developers need to simplify their product with the end goal in mind—the customer. They share some awesome examples of how to do this, how you can win Future You’s approval, and the steps to create a smooth user experience.
“I think it’s a hard mental shift to say that my area of expertise shouldn’t be visible in the product. But, you need to understand the end goal. My goal is to automate myself out of a job, then move on.”
 • Will Button
In This Episode:
 Jillian shares a killer example that should inspire all DevOps people to simplify their process
 As a programmer, you want to tell the customer how great your programming is, right? Hold on…Will shares a different perspective
 How Will approaches his programming that avoids all customer confusion and creates a seamless experience
 What Jillian believes is MORE important than learning how to code (sometimes)
 Why you need these TWO things that will earn Future You’s approval

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Simplifying DevOps - DevOps 229

In today's show, we dive into the intricate world of quality assurance and testing strategies with our special guest, AJ Funk. AJ, a seasoned software engineer at Rainforest QA, shares his unique journey from playing professional baseball to developing cutting-edge QA solutions. Joining us are co-hosts Will Button and Jillian, along with fellow guest Matteo Collina.

AJ walks us through the evolution of quality assurance at Rainforest QA, emphasizing the importance of balancing confidence and velocity in testing. He highlights innovative approaches like using visual layers for testing, eliminating the need for extensive code-based tests, and explains how their no-code solutions empower teams to maintain high-quality standards efficiently.

From discussing the myth of 100% test coverage to the role of AI in QA, AJ and our hosts explore practical strategies for developers. We also touch on the importance of real-world testing environments, handling microservices, and tips for leveraging Rainforest QA's robust tools effectively.

Join us for a thought-provoking conversation that covers everything from the basics of end-to-end testing to advanced QA practices, and even takes some entertaining detours into the personal lives of our speakers. Whether you're a seasoned developer or just starting out in the tech industry, this episode is packed with insights you won't want to miss. Tune in for some expert advice, a few laughs, and a whole lot of valuable information!

Real-World Testing: Insights from Rainforest QA Expert AJ Funk - DevOps 231

Join host Warren Parad, co-hosts Jillian and Will Button as they delve into a compelling conversation on the pervasive influence of AI across industries. Special guest Alex Kearns from UberTask Consulting shares his expertise on the real-world applications of AI, navigating through its rapid evolution and discussing both the opportunities and challenges it presents. From the impact of generative AI on business processes to intriguing ethical considerations, this episode provides valuable insights for professionals in the DevOps field. Tune in as the panel explores the dynamic relationship between technology, responsibility, and innovation, offering listeners a thought-provoking exploration of AI's role in shaping the future.

Exploring the Role of AI in DevOps with Alex Kearns - DevOps 232

Hosts Warren Parad and David Kimura dive into a compelling discussion with guest Daniel Loreto, founder and CEO of Jetify. The conversation revolves around innovative solutions in the DevOps world, particularly focusing on the use of Nix and DevBox to streamline developer environments. Daniel shares insights from his vast experience at prominent tech companies like Google, Airbnb, and Twitter, detailing how Jetify is leveraging AI and agents to enhance software development. The trio explores the challenges of reproducible development environments, the complexities of ML development, and the strategic benefits of open sourcing tools. Along the way, they touch on the impact of AI agents on the industry and the balance between innovation and practical application. Prepare for an engaging episode filled with technical insights and thoughtful reflections on the future of software development.

The Impact of Open Source on Business and Development Practices with Daniel Loreto - DevOps 233

In this episode hosts Warren Parad and Will Button sit down with John W. Maley, an attorney with a master's degree in computer science from Stanford University, to discuss the fascinating intersection of AI and the legal system. John shares insights from his book "Juris ex Machina," a sci-fi exploration of a future where AI replaces humans in the jury system. The conversation dives deep into the current state and future potential of AI, touching on its overhyped status, potential vulnerabilities, and security concerns. As they navigate the topic of AI's integration in society, John, Warren, and Will explore riveting ideas about AI's role in the modern world and its implications in diverse fields, from dating apps to deepfake detection. Join us as we tap into the complexities and innovations of AI technology and ponder its future impact on society and the legal system.

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AI, law, and automation with John Maly - DevOps 234

In this episode, our hosts Will Button, Warren Parad, and Jillian are joined by guest Matt Gowie from Masterpoint. Together, they delve into the complex world of infrastructure as code, discussing best practices, challenges, and the human side of consulting in the DevOps space. Matt shares his journey from software development to running his own consulting agency focused on Terraform and OpenTofu. The conversation covers everything from the nuances of using Terraform workspaces, the implications of large-scale infrastructure management, to the critical soft skills needed for a successful consulting career. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just venturing into DevOps, this episode is packed with valuable insights and practical advice for navigating the ever-evolving landscape of technology.

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Mastering Infrastructure as Code: Lessons from Matt Gowie's Consultancy Experience - DevOps 235

We dive into the world of cloud architecture and engineering with a fascinating discussion led by our hosts Warren Parad and Will Button, and joined by our special guest, Matt Lea. Matt, hailing from Wisconsin, is the driving force behind innovative projects like CloudWarGames.com, a platform designed to enhance DevOps training and hiring through engaging problem-solving scenarios. As we explore his journey, from coaching gymnastics to developing digital training ecosystems, you'll discover how Matt's experiences shape his unique perspectives on technical challenges, team dynamics, and the ever-evolving landscape of cloud solutions. Whether you're curious about the technical intricacies of infrastructure or seeking inspiration for your own career path, this episode offers a captivating look at the intersection of technology, creativity, and human connections. So, sit back, relax, and get ready to explore the world of DevOps in a whole new way.

Matt Lea Discusses Cloud War Games and Elevating Everyday DevOps - DevOps 237

In this episode of DevOps 238, we sat down with Zach Lloyd to dive into what’s really happening in the world of modern DevOps—from automation and AI to scaling systems and maintaining team culture in fast-paced environments.

We talked about the evolving role of DevOps engineers, the shift toward platform engineering, and why tool sprawl is becoming a bigger issue than ever. Zach shared some powerful real-world lessons on implementing CI/CD pipelines, avoiding burnout in high-pressure environments, and how teams can stay aligned without drowning in Slack notifications or endless dashboards.

One of our favorite takeaways? The idea that simplicity and communication still beat out fancy tooling—every time. We also touched on emerging trends like AI-assisted deployments, observability, and what DevOps might look like in 2026 and beyond.

If you’re navigating legacy systems, scaling rapidly, or just trying to keep your team sane and productive, this episode’s packed with insights you won’t want to miss.

Dungeon Crawler Carl (Book)Dabble of DevOps AI Data Discovery ToolThe Impact of Generative AI on Critical Thinking (Research Paper)Granola AI Meeting NotesA Travel Guide to the Middle Ages (Book)

Modern DevOps Challenges: Automation, AI, and Scaling in 2025 - DevOps 238

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