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The DSR Network

This podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of AEI, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else.

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Deep State Radio

The current government shutdown is unlike any we have seen before. President Trump is turning this into a political assault on blue states, energy projects, infrastructure projects, and more. What does this shutdown really mean for our democracy? Where are the bold politicians, either left or right, who can take a stand against Trump’s excesses? Tune in as David Rothkopf and Norm Ornstein discuss all this and more.

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Words Matter: Welcome to a Government Shutdown Only A Mussolini Could Love

Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut has taken a lead role in forcefully sounding the alarm about Donald Trump. He’s urged Democrats to use their power creatively to constrain Trump’s abuses. But in recent days, Trump’s consolidation of authoritarian power has expanded. And we’re in the middle of a government shutdown fight in which Democrats are drawing a hard line, but not for an end to Trump’s lawbreaking. Trump has responded by escalating the lawless threats toward Blue America. In an interview with us, Murphy offers a lengthy indictment of all of Trump’s lawlessness, corruption, malevolence and authoritarianism. It all adds up to a bracing, extraordinary takedown: Murphy says we’re dangerously close to losing democracy, explains why other Democrats aren’t acting as alarmed, and outlines what can still be done to stave off Trump’s dictatorial designs before it’s too late. 

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The Daily Blast: Chris Murphy’s Extraordinary New Takedown of Trump Should Wake Up Dems

The best time to regulate AI was yesterday, and the next best time is now. There is a clear and urgent need for responsible AI development that implements reasonable guidelines to mitigate harms and foster innovation, yet the conversation in DC and capitals around the world remains muddled. NYU’s Dr. Julia Stoyanovich joins David Rothkopf to explore the role of collective action in AI development and why responsible AI is the responsibility of each of us. 

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Siliconsciousness: Why Responsible AI Begins with Each of Us

On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we discuss the administration freezing blue state funding, the Supreme Court allowing Lisa Cook to stay in office, Hamas’s rejection of a US/Israel ceasefire plan, and more. 
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DSR Daily October 2: Trump Freezes Blue State Funding

On Wednesday, President Donald Trump unleashed a strange Truth Social rant declaring straight out that farmers are getting hurt because China is not buying soybeans. Of course, Trump’s own trade wars are the reason for this, so he in effect admitted that his own policies are badly screwing one of his core constituencies. This comes as the ADP report finds that the economy lost 32,000 jobs in September, suggesting job losses could now get worse. All this bad economic news is piling up just as we’re entering a bruising government shutdown fight, which will make the economy even worse. So are Trump and Republicans in a weak enough position for Democrats to hold the line in the shutdown fight? We talked to New Republic senior editor Alex Shephard, who has a good new piece analyzing the standoff. We discuss how Trump is increasingly shafting his own voters, how it’s making him more vulnerable on the economy, and why all this should persuade Democrats to hang tough in the shutdown standoff. 

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The Daily Blast: Trump Accidentally Admits He Screwed MAGA Voters as Econ News Worsens

So has Jimmy Kimmel saved the media? We’ve been critical of the mainstream media for quite some time, and things have only gone from bad to worse under Trump 2.0. But with the Jimmy Kimmel saga resulting in a seemingly happy ending, is there some glimmer for hope for American media? Critics Dan Froomkin and Jeff Jarvis join David Rothkopf to express optimism, pessimism, and everything in-between.

More from Jeff: https://buzzmachine.com/

More from Dan: https://presswatchers.org/
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NTK: Wait, Is There Actually Hope for the Media?

Donald Trump and Pete Hegseth held a part-pep rally, part-declaration of war on the U.S. Constitution in Quantico on Tuesday. Former Lieutenant Generals Doug Lute and Mark Hertling join David Rothkopf and Ed Luce to discuss Trump’s speech in Quantico, America’s security posture under this administration, and more.

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Former Generals React to Trump-Hegseth Quantico Speeches

On the DSR Daily for Wednesday, we cover the US government shutdown, Trump and Hegseth’s startling remarks to top military leaders, a judge’s scathing ruling on the administration’s attempts to deport pro-Palestinian advocates, and more.
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DSR Daily October 1: US Government Begins Shutdown

In a speech to military officials, President Trump went full fascist: He said America is under “invasion from within,” declared that the generals in the room will be enlisted in a “war” against that enemy, and bizarrely insisted that U.S. cities should be used as military training grounds. We think this is Trump’s most explicit declaration yet that he sees large swaths of America as themselves constituting a kind of enemy nation within our borders. The display prompted Senator Ruben Gallego to scorch Trump at length as an “idiot,” suggesting that mockery and contempt is a good approach in situations like these. We talked to Ian Reifowitz, a history professor at SUNY Empire State University and co-author of Riling up the Base. He explains how Trump is relying on longtime right-wing political tropes that trade on grievance and hate, how Trump-MAGA are supercharging this in a newly emboldened way, and why it’s all heading to a very dark place.

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The Daily Blast: Trump’s Rants to Generals Spiral into Madness as Dem Unloads: “Idiot!”

On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we break down the imminent government shutdown, Trump and Hegseth’s unusual Quantico meeting, Israel and the US’s ceasefire proposal for Gaza, and more. 
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DSR Daily September 30: Government Shutdown Imminent

Yesterday, on September 10th, 2025, Charlie Kirk was assassinated. Today, September 11th, marks the 24th anniversary of the largest terrorist attack in U.S. history. Laurie Garrett joins David Rothkopf and Norm Ornstein in a sincere conversation to memorialize 9/11, as well as discuss the tough challenges we’ve faced since, including the alarming upwards trend of political violence.

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Words Matter: Post-9/11 We Tried to Unite, Following the Kirk Shooting it’s the Opposite

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