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Tune in to All Things Sustainable, a podcast from S&P Global (formerly ESG Insider). Each week we explore the critical sustainability topics transforming the business landscape. Join us every Friday for engaging interviews with global leaders and clear explanations of the latest sustainability headlines.

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At the recent UN climate conference in Baku, Azerbaijan, countries finalized key rules and guidelines for international carbon trading under Article 6 of the Paris Agreement on climate change. 
 
In this bonus episode of the ESG Insider podcast, we discuss these outcomes and what they mean for the future of carbon markets with Mark Kenber, Executive Director at the Voluntary Carbon Markets Integrity Initiative. VCMI is a nonprofit with a goal of enabling high-integrity voluntary carbon markets that contribute to the goal of the Paris Agreement, protect nature and support the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals. 
 
"The rules around the Paris Agreement carbon markets known as Article 6 were finally agreed, and that now gives some confidence to those who are developing projects, looking at investing in the market, developing markets at a national level and, of course, buyers, that there is now a UN imprimatur on project-based carbon markets," Mark tells us. "And with luck, that will encourage more investment." 
 
Listen to our previous coverage from COP29 here: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/un-official-says-credibility-of-climate-cops-at-stake-heading-into-2025
 
Listen to our explainer podcast series on carbon markets: 
 
Exploring the role of carbon markets in reaching climate targets: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/exploring-the-role-of-carbon-markets-in-reaching-climate-targets 
 
What's next for voluntary carbon markets: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/what-s-next-for-voluntary-carbon-markets 
 
Learn more about the Global Carbon Markets Conference hosted by S&P Global Commodity Insights: https://cilive.com/assemble/events/energy-transition/101824-global-carbon-market-conference 
 
This piece was published by S&P Global Sustainable1, a part of S&P Global. 
 
Copyright ©2024 by S&P Global 
 
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By accessing this Podcast, I acknowledge that S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this Podcast. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice. Unless specifically stated otherwise, S&P GLOBAL does not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned in this Podcast, and information from this Podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third party materials or content of any third party site referenced in this Podcast do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of S&P GLOBAL. S&P GLOBAL assumes no responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of the content contained in third party materials or on third party sites referenced in this Podcast or the compliance with applicable laws of such materials and/or links referenced herein. Moreover, S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty that this Podcast, or the server that makes it available, is free of viruses, worms, or other elements or codes that manifest contaminating or destructive properties. 
 
S&P GLOBAL EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ANY AND ALL LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL'S USE OF, REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

After COP29, what’s next for carbon markets

In recent episodes of the ESG Insider podcast, we’ve been hearing about takeaways from COP29, the UN climate conference that recently wrapped up in Baku, Azerbaijan.
 
In this episode, we hear about the rising private sector engagement at events like COP29, and how companies are collaborating across the public and private sector to find solutions to climate change.
 
"When I look today just at the breadth of involvement there is in the private sector…I've really seen a step change in terms of the engagement," says Sagarika Chatterjee, Climate Finance Director and Finance Lead for the UN Climate Change High-Level Champions, a group that aims to drive collaboration on climate action between governments, businesses and investors. 
 
"The question, of course, is how good can we get at collaborating with the public sector on some very tricky areas and working fast enough so that we can reach the needs that there are of developing countries for climate finance," Sagarika tells us.
 
In the episode we also speak to: 
 
-Sherry Madera, CEO of the disclosure nonprofit CDP 
 
-Kristen Sullivan, Partner at audit, consulting and advisory firm Deloitte where she leads Sustainability and ESG Services 
 
-Naoko Ishii, Director of the Center for Global Commons, a research center at the University of Tokyo 
 
-Yevgeniya Bikmurzina, Head of the Innovation Ecosystem Department within Azerbaijan’s Innovation & Digital Development Agency 
 
Listen to our previous coverage of COP29 outcomes: 
 
UN official says credibility of climate COPs at stake heading into 2025: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/un-official-says-credibility-of-climate-cops-at-stake-heading-into-2025 
 
After COP29, what’s next for carbon markets: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/after-cop29-whats-next-for-carbon-markets/id1475521006?i=1000680181847
 
Listen to our interview with CDP CEO Sherry Madera at Climate Week NYC: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/cdp-ceo-talks-climate-nature-and-the-future-of-sustainability-disclosure 
 
This piece was published by S&P Global Sustainable1, a part of S&P Global.
 
Copyright ©2024 by S&P Global
 
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 By accessing this Podcast, I acknowledge that S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this Podcast. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice. Unless specifically stated otherwise, S&P GLOBAL does not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned in this Podcast, and information from this Podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third party materials or content of any third party site referenced in this Podcast do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of S&P GLOBAL. S&P GLOBAL assumes no responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of the content contained in third party materials or on third party sites referenced in this Podcast or the compliance with applicable laws of such materials and/or links referenced herein. Moreover, S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty that this Podcast, or the server that makes it available, is free of viruses, worms, or other elements or codes that manifest contaminating or destructive properties.
 S&P GLOBAL EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ANY AND ALL LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL'S USE OF, REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

How the private sector showed up at COP29

In recent episodes of the ESG Insider podcast, we’ve explored how different sectors are approaching climate change. In today’s bonus episode, we’re focusing on the insurance industry in an interview with Liz Henderson. 
 
Liz leads Climate Risk Advisory for Aon, a global insurance and reinsurance brokerage firm. In the episode she talks about her key takeaways from COP29, the UN climate conference that recently took place in Baku, Azerbaijan. 
 
This event was widely known as the "finance COP," and Liz says that insurance plays a critical role alongside private finance. "You cannot have bankable high-value investment capital without risk capital alongside it to de-risk those investments," she tells us. 
 
Liz also talks about the role of data and the insurance industry’s unique perspective on risk, thanks to its long history of modeling the impacts of events like hurricanes, floods and wildfires. She said this allows insurers to help companies measure and manage their climate risks. 
 
Listen to our previous coverage of COP29: 
 
How the private sector showed up at COP29: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/how-the-private-sector-showed-up-at-cop29 
 
After COP29, what’s next for carbon markets: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/after-cop29-what-s-next-for-carbon-markets 
 
UN official says credibility of climate COPs at stake heading into 2025: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/un-official-says-credibility-of-climate-cops-at-stake-heading-into-2025 
 
This piece was published by S&P Global Sustainable1, a part of S&P Global. 
 
Copyright ©2024 by S&P Global 
 
DISCLAIMER 
 
By accessing this Podcast, I acknowledge that S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this Podcast. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice. Unless specifically stated otherwise, S&P GLOBAL does not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned in this Podcast, and information from this Podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third party materials or content of any third party site referenced in this Podcast do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of S&P GLOBAL. S&P GLOBAL assumes no responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of the content contained in third party materials or on third party sites referenced in this Podcast or the compliance with applicable laws of such materials and/or links referenced herein. Moreover, S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty that this Podcast, or the server that makes it available, is free of viruses, worms, or other elements or codes that manifest contaminating or destructive properties. 
 
S&P GLOBAL EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ANY AND ALL LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL'S USE OF, REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

How the insurance industry is tackling climate risk

In recent episodes of the ESG Insider podcast we’ve been covering some of the big outcomes from COP29, the UN’s climate change conference in Baku, Azerbaijan. This was known as the "finance COP,” and today we’re back with another bonus episode looking at how climate finance has changed over time. 
 
We sit down on the sidelines of COP29 with Sean Kidney, CEO of the Climate Bonds Initiative, a nonprofit that works to mobilize global capital for climate action. He discusses his key takeaways from COP29, the dramatic change he is seeing in sustainable debt markets and the outlook for the energy transition in 2025. 
 
 “I launched the Climate Bonds Initiative at the 2009 Copenhagen COP, where things got pretty grim,” Sean says. “I look now at the change of sentiment ... most of the conversations I'm involved in — with finance, with development banks, with governments — are all about HOW to do it, not IF.”
 
Listen to our previous coverage of COP29:
 
UN official says credibility of climate COPs at stake heading into 2025: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/un-official-says-credibility-of-climate-cops-at-stake-heading-into-2025 
 
How the private sector showed up at COP29: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/how-the-private-sector-showed-up-at-cop29 
 
How the insurance industry is tackling climate risk: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/how-the-insurance-industry-is-tackling-climate-risk 
 
After COP29, what’s next for carbon markets: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/after-cop29-what-s-next-for-carbon-markets
 
This piece was published by S&P Global Sustainable1, a part of S&P Global. 
 
Copyright ©2024 by S&P Global 
 
DISCLAIMER 
 
By accessing this Podcast, I acknowledge that S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this Podcast. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice. Unless specifically stated otherwise, S&P GLOBAL does not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned in this Podcast, and information from this Podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third party materials or content of any third party site referenced in this Podcast do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of S&P GLOBAL. S&P GLOBAL assumes no responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of the content contained in third party materials or on third party sites referenced in this Podcast or the compliance with applicable laws of such materials and/or links referenced herein. Moreover, S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty that this Podcast, or the server that makes it available, is free of viruses, worms, or other elements or codes that manifest contaminating or destructive properties. 
 
S&P GLOBAL EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ANY AND ALL LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL'S USE OF, REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

Climate Bonds Initiative CEO talks sustainable finance

Today we bring you the final installment in our Women in Leadership series of the ESG Insider podcast. Over the past two years, we’ve spoken to women CEOs and leaders from across industries and around the world to understand their path to the top. 
 
In the episode, we talk to Dr. Vanessa Chan, Chief Commercialization Officer at the US Department of Energy and Director of the Office of Technology Transitions. She was also just named to the TIME100 Climate list of the 100 most influential climate leaders for 2024. 
 
In the interview, Dr. Chan talks about her outlook on energy transition technologies, the unlikely path that led her to her current role and her advice for people earlier in their careers. 
 
“It's really easy to follow the status quo and ... stay within a box, but that's not really where change and impact comes from,” she says. “If someone had told me five years ago that I would be a senior government official, I'd be like ‘there's no way, that is not on my vision board.’ But I said yes to this opportunity.” 
 
Listen to our full Women in Leadership podcast series here: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/insights/featured/special-editorial/women-in-leadership 
 
Read research from S&P Global Sustainable1 on gender diversity in leadership here: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/insights/featured/special-editorial/women-in-leadership-what-s-the-holdup 
 
This piece was published by S&P Global Sustainable1, a part of S&P Global. 
 
Copyright ©2024 by S&P Global 
 
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By accessing this Podcast, I acknowledge that S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this Podcast. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice. Unless specifically stated otherwise, S&P GLOBAL does not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned in this Podcast, and information from this Podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third party materials or content of any third party site referenced in this Podcast do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of S&P GLOBAL. S&P GLOBAL assumes no responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of the content contained in third party materials or on third party sites referenced in this Podcast or the compliance with applicable laws of such materials and/or links referenced herein. Moreover, S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty that this Podcast, or the server that makes it available, is free of viruses, worms, or other elements or codes that manifest contaminating or destructive properties. 
 
S&P GLOBAL EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ANY AND ALL LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL'S USE OF, REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

Women in Leadership: Talking energy transition with the US Department of Energy

The holiday season is a time to gather around the table for meals with family and friends. In today's episode of the ESG Insider podcast, we're exploring how to make food systems more sustainable with Alexander Gillett, Co-founder and CEO of HowGood, a food and personal care product research and data company. 
 
Alexander discusses challenges in measuring the emissions footprint of food products and describes how factors like climate change and regulation are driving changes in the sector. He also talks about how the current food labeling system is confusing for consumers trying to make sustainable purchasing decisions. 
 
Alexander says that making food systems more sustainable requires a holistic approach that goes beyond just tackling carbon emissions. 
 
"If we create a collapse within the food system because of loss of biodiversity or soil health, but we've solved carbon, we're still going to have massive problems feeding the planet," he says. 
 
This piece was published by S&P Global Sustainable1, a part of S&P Global. 
 
Copyright ©2024 by S&P Global 
 
DISCLAIMER 
 
By accessing this Podcast, I acknowledge that S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this Podcast. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice. Unless specifically stated otherwise, S&P GLOBAL does not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned in this Podcast, and information from this Podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third party materials or content of any third party site referenced in this Podcast do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of S&P GLOBAL. S&P GLOBAL assumes no responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of the content contained in third party materials or on third party sites referenced in this Podcast or the compliance with applicable laws of such materials and/or links referenced herein. Moreover, S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty that this Podcast, or the server that makes it available, is free of viruses, worms, or other elements or codes that manifest contaminating or destructive properties. 
 
S&P GLOBAL EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ANY AND ALL LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL'S USE OF, REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

How to make food systems more sustainable

As many of our ESG Insider listeners take trips to visit family and friends this holiday season, we’re focusing our final episode of 2024 on sustainable travel. 
 
We sit down for an interview with Sally Davey, the CEO of Travalyst. This is a nonprofit that convenes a global coalition of some of the biggest names in travel and technology to make credible, consistent sustainability information mainstream and to help people make more informed travel choices. 
 
Sally talks to us about the direction of travel for sustainable tourism — including the challenge of getting competitors to work together toward a common climate goal. When Travalyst was founded in 2019 by Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex, Sally says everyone thought the organization’s mission was “crazy.” 
 
“Everybody said: ‘You will never do this. This will never happen,’” Sally recalls. “‘The online travel sector in particular is fiercely competitive and these folks don't work together. And even if they did, they're not interested in sustainability. And even if they were, they won't be able to get the data to the mainstream.’” 
 
Five years later, she says, “we've proven out all of those points.” 
 
This piece was published by S&P Global Sustainable1, a part of S&P Global. 
 
Learn about S&P Global’s net-zero solutions: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/solutions/net-zero
 
Copyright ©2024 by S&P Global 
 
DISCLAIMER 
 
By accessing this Podcast, I acknowledge that S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this Podcast. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice. Unless specifically stated otherwise, S&P GLOBAL does not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned in this Podcast, and information from this Podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third party materials or content of any third party site referenced in this Podcast do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of S&P GLOBAL. S&P GLOBAL assumes no responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of the content contained in third party materials or on third party sites referenced in this Podcast or the compliance with applicable laws of such materials and/or links referenced herein. Moreover, S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty that this Podcast, or the server that makes it available, is free of viruses, worms, or other elements or codes that manifest contaminating or destructive properties. 
 
S&P GLOBAL EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ANY AND ALL LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL'S USE OF, REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

How a nonprofit is convening competitors to make travel sustainable

What’s ahead for 2025? In the first ESG Insider podcast episode of the new year, we’re talking to Pulitzer Prize-winning author Daniel Yergin about the outlook for the energy transition in a landscape of geopolitical unrest and climate change. 
 
“The global political situation is very unsettled, and that’s going to reverberate on energy transition, on sustainability and on energy markets,” says Daniel, who is Vice Chairman of S&P Global and Chairman of CERAWeek, the annual S&P Global conference that has been described as “the Davos of energy.” Daniel leads the event’s Executive Conference and tells us what to expect when energy, climate and technology leaders from the public and private sectors convene in Houston, Texas March 10-14 for CERAWeek 2025. 
 
In 2025 many climate and energy transition conversations will center around emerging technologies and solutions. This is the focus of the other half of the CERAWeek conference, known as the Innovation Agora, and we talk to Atul Arya to learn more about this landscape and what’s ahead. Atul is Senior Vice President and Chief Energy Strategist at S&P Global Commodity Insights, where he hosts the CERAWeek Podcast. 
 
“Our goal with Agora is to move the conversation, move the technologies, and ultimately help companies solve the climate problem while meeting the energy demands,” Atul tells us. 
 
Learn more about the CERAWeek Podcast here: https://ceraweek.com/podcast/index.html 
 
For the latest information on CERAWeek speakers, agenda and registration, visit http://www.ceraweek.com/?utm_source=Podcast&utm_medium=ESGInsider&utm_campaign=JAN03 
 
Listen to our previous interview with Daniel Yergin here: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/talking-climate-diplomacy-and-the-energy-transition-with-dan-yergin 
 
This piece was published by S&P Global Sustainable1, a part of S&P Global. 
 
Copyright ©2024 by S&P Global 
 
DISCLAIMER 
 
By accessing this Podcast, I acknowledge that S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this Podcast. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice. Unless specifically stated otherwise, S&P GLOBAL does not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned in this Podcast, and information from this Podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third party materials or content of any third party site referenced in this 
 
 Podcast do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of S&P GLOBAL. S&P GLOBAL assumes no responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of the content contained in third party materials or on third party sites referenced in this Podcast or the compliance with applicable laws of such materials and/or links referenced herein. Moreover, S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty that this Podcast, or the server that makes it available, is free of viruses, worms, or other elements or codes that manifest contaminating or destructive properties.

2025 outlook: What to expect from energy transition, climate and CERAWeek

Carbon markets will be a big focus of sustainability discussions in 2025 after making headlines at COP29, the UN climate conference that took place in Baku, Azerbaijan in late 2024. 
 
In this week’s ESG Insider podcast, we dive into the topic of carbon markets with coverage from the sidelines of the S&P Global Commodity Insights Global Carbon Markets Conference. 
 
We sit down with Andrea Bonzanni, International Policy Director at the International Emissions Trading Association (IETA). Andrea talks about the outlook for carbon markets after parties at COP29 finalized key rules and guidelines for international carbon trading under Article 6 of the Paris Agreement on climate change. 
 
We speak to Marieke Franssen, Managing Director and Head of Commodity Carry Solutions at French investment bank Natixis, who says generating confidence in the market will be a key driver of demand. 
 
“Companies need to be incentivized to buy, and they need to be given the confidence that the credits that they're buying can be put to use,” she tells us. 
 
 We also talk to: 
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Chris Slater, CEO and Founder of Oka, The Carbon Insurance Company, who explains how the insurance sector can contribute to the development of the carbon markets; 
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Linda Rivera Macedo, Head of Safeguards and Sustainable Development at Calyx Global, who discusses the role of carbon ratings agencies in building confidence in the market; 
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and Robin Pedroza, Head of Sustainability Transformation at thyssenkrupp Materials Services, part of German industrial and steel giant thyssenkrupp. Robin talks to us about the impact the EU’s carbon border adjustment mechanism (CBAM) is having on the steel industry. 
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Listen to our coverage of COP29 carbon markets outcomes: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/after-cop29-what-s-next-for-carbon-markets 
 
Listen to our explainer podcast series on carbon markets: 
 
Exploring the role of carbon markets in reaching climate targets: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/exploring-the-role-of-carbon-markets-in-reaching-climate-targets 
 
What’s next for voluntary carbon markets: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/what-s-next-for-voluntary-carbon-markets 
 
Learn more about the 2025 Global Carbon Markets Conference from S&P Global Commodity Insights: https://commodityinsights.spglobal.com/Global-Carbon-Markets.html 
 
This piece was published by S&P Global Sustainable1, a part of S&P Global. 
 
Copyright ©2024 by S&P Global 
 
DISCLAIMER 
 
By accessing this Podcast, I acknowledge that S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this Podcast. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice. Unless specifically stated otherwise, S&P GLOBAL does not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned in this Podcast, and information from this Podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third party materials or content of any third party site referenced in this Podcast do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of S&P GLOBAL. S&P GLOBAL assumes no responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of the content contained in third party materials or on third party sites referenced in this Podcast or the compliance with applicable laws of such materials and/or links referenced herein. Moreover, S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty that this Podcast, or the server that makes it available, is free of viruses, worms, or other elements or codes that manifest contaminating or destructive properties. 
 
S&P GLOBAL EXPRESSLY DISCLAIMS ANY AND ALL LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL'S USE OF, REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

What to expect from carbon markets in 2025

In this episode of the ESG Insider podcast, we explore what's ahead for jobs that require green, climate or sustainability skills. 
 
We talk with Efrem Bycer, Senior Lead Manager of Public Policy and Economic Graph at professional social networking platform LinkedIn, which publishes an annual Global Green Skills Report on demand for green talent. Efrem says these skillsets are increasingly embedded in many lines of work. 
 
"We're shifting from climate being this niche topic to something that is much more ubiquitous and much more widespread," Efrem says. "At some point, these aren't just climate skills, but they are business skills. These are skills that just anybody who works in certain functions within a business is going to have to know." 
 
We also talk with Neil Yeoh, Founder and CEO of OnePointFive, a climate advisory and training firm that publishes a climate workforce playbook. 
 
In the episode, we hear what's driving demand for sustainability jobs; about the talent shortage and skills gap for these roles; and about how organizations can navigate political uncertainty. Neil and Efrem also outline how individuals can position themselves to be more competitive in the job market going forward. 
 
We’re celebrating the 7-year anniversary of this podcast with a live event in NYC on Feb. 6. Register to attend here: https://events.spglobal.com/event/075966b7-f60b-4a45-b489-c35e954d8baf/summary-full-event-info-?RefId=S1EMAIL 
 
Listen to our episode titled "Why climate literacy matters for business, growing the green workforce" here: https://www.spglobal.com/esg/podcasts/why-climate-literacy-matters-for-business-growing-the-green-workforce 
 
This piece was published by S&P Global Sustainable1, a part of S&P Global. 
 
Copyright ©2025 by S&P Global 
 
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By accessing this Podcast, I acknowledge that S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty, guarantee, or representation as to the accuracy or sufficiency of the information featured in this Podcast. The information, opinions, and recommendations presented in this Podcast are for general information only and any reliance on the information provided in this Podcast is done at your own risk. This Podcast should not be considered professional advice. Unless specifically stated otherwise, S&P GLOBAL does not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned in this Podcast, and information from this Podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third party materials or content of any third party site referenced in this Podcast do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of S&P GLOBAL. S&P GLOBAL assumes no responsibility or liability for the accuracy or completeness of the content contained in third party materials or on third party sites referenced in this Podcast or the compliance with applicable laws of such materials and/or links referenced herein. Moreover, S&P GLOBAL makes no warranty that this Podcast, or the server that makes it available, is free of viruses, worms, or other elements or codes that manifest contaminating or destructive properties. 
 
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What’s ahead for green, climate and sustainability jobs

Major oil and gas companies are beginning to set aggressive decarbonization targets, but the path ahead for them is riddled with challenges. The latest episode of S&P Global's ESG Insider podcast takes a deep dive into what net-zero goals mean for those energy companies. We'll hear from Ed Daniels, an executive vice president and the head of strategy at Royal Dutch Shell plc, about the company's plan for achieving net zero across its direct and indirect emissions. We also talk with Natasha Landell-Mills, the head of stewardship at Sarasin & Partners, a U.K.-based asset manager with more than £15 billion under management, about why the firm recently divested from Shell after years of engagement. And Simon Redmond, a senior director at S&P Global Ratings, explains the rating agency's decision to bump down the credit ratings of some companies in the oil sector, including Shell. Photo source: Getty Images

Big Oil's 'bumpy ride' to net-zero

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