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Growth Mindset Psychology

There are a lot of opinions on how to master your mind, but then there’s PSYCHOLOGY.
We’re all stuck with the brain we’re born with, but we aren’t stuck with how we use it.

Learn science-backed answers to make the most of your mind and your life.

CURIOUS?
Growth Mindset Psychology is the "self-help sceptic" podcast for the curious.
Whether you want to improve performance, navigate setbacks, or know who you are.
We find answers to the true science of self-improvement.
So put down the astrology chart and start working with your mind, instead of against it.
With over 8 million downloads and 60,000 monthly listeners, you’re invited to join.

PROCESS
Instead of telling you what to think, we discuss how thinking works.
Armed with a stack of science journals, textbooks and a boatload of curiosity, we uncover the mechanics of the mind.
Why? >>> Success is personal!
You might want to make the most of your neurodiverse strengths, start a business, or simply find more reasons to smile.
Hone your ability for independent thinking and growth with mental models to pursue your definition of success.

HOST
I’m Sam Webster Harris, a lifelong learner with ADHD, a raging curiosity, and an obsession with finding answers to hard questions.
After launching several businesses, travelling the world and nearly dying a few times I concluded that science and Psychology are where it’s at.
What actually makes people happy? What’s the best way to treat a brain? How can I get more done?
Studying the answers we find that changing behaviours requires building mindsets, mental models, and a healthy relationship with failure.
I run the show to help listeners enjoy nutritious content that feeds their minds (and I needed a legitimate excuse to cover for my reading addiction).

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Previous guests include Olympians, Scientists, Billionaires, and Sam's Mum.
Past series:
— Psychology vs Stoicism
— Time Management for busy mortals
— Independence and knowing yourself
— Cognitive biases and rational thinking
— Psychology of connection
— Carol Dweck and the Multiverse of Mindsets

Growth Mindset: Psychology of self-improvement

The small but very real problems that hold you back in a big way.

Personal finances feel just that, personal. Yet most of our issues are fundamentally quite predictable and universal based on different mindset patterns and beliefs we pick up.

Money isn't a completely natural tool; it is a human invention that helps us overcome trade and resource accumulation problems. Learning the basics of how to think about money and deal with it allows for us to become a master of our own future.

From Lifestyle inflation to investing strategy or the issue of inaction feeling you have to learn more first

This episode covers the 14 biggest mistakes we make when we think about money.

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Chapters
00:00 14 habits that keep you poor
00:24 1st bad habit - Starting tomorrow
00:52 2nd - Starting too many and not finishing any
01:45 3rd - Paying yourself last
02:51 4th - Not investing in yourself
03:34 5th - Reading a lot and not doing
04:27 6th - Not knowing your income or expenses
06:02 7th - Getting comfortable with bad debts
07:28 8th - Not having an emergency fund
08:44 9th - Lifestyle inflation 
10:17 Ad break
10:28 10th - Hanging with the wrong crowd
12:02 11th - Blaming your circumstances
12:35 12th - Focusing purely on saving now
13:16 13th - Investing without a strategy
14:38 14th - Waiting for perfect conditions
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14 Habits Keeping You Poor

Modern technology amplifies our fear and emotions. FOMO is on the rise.

Whether you are worried about being invited to a party, checking social media, or finding it harder to make decisions.

FOMO is increasingly driving our emotions and actions. It is a deeply natural feeling built into us through hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. But it hasn't kept up with our incredible pace of technological change.

Part of the reason we have such a decline in mental health is we can compare ourselves to the perfect lives all around us in the digital world and feel we don't stack up.

This episode will help you understand what's really going on:

The evolutionary roots of FOMO

How our modern world is making us anxious

Why ADHD is on the rise

Where to take back our focus

What to celebrate and look up to.

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Growth Mindset Psychology:
Sam Webster explores the psychology of happiness, satisfaction, purpose, and growth through the lens of self-improvement.
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Chapters:
00:00 Psychology of FOMO
04:03 Evolutionary Roots of FOMO
08:15 Modern Technology and Social Media's Role in FOMO
10:18 Consumer Culture, Crypto and Parasocial Relationships 
14:31 Psychological Costs & Impact on Mental Health
15:50 FOMO and Decision Making
17:17 The Rise of ADHD
18:54 Abundance vs. Scarcity Mindset
21:09 The Joy of Missing Out (JOMO)
21:36 Practical Tips to Overcome FOMO
25:17 Conclusion: Embracing the Present
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The Psychology of FOMO - Why it's Getting Worse and What To Do About It

What does psychology say about the role of information in building wisdom and lasting change in our lives?

There is an explosion in self-help content. From gurus on Tik Tok to 85,000 self-help books being published a year. But what actually works?

This episode explores the psychology of learning and how to put information into practice:

How to identify time-wasting nonsense?

3 steps to build a healthy content diet

The best forms of content for retention and lasting changes?

Take home strategy to build deeper wisdom

You'll come away with an improved growth mindset that doesn't fall for promises of instant results and is ready to put time and effort into cultivating wisdom instead of consuming it.

Recommended Books:

Slow Productivity - Cal Newport

The Power of Habit - Charles Duhigg

Pachinko - Min Jin Lee

Wild Swans - Jung Chang

Replay - Ken Grimwood

Dalai Lama's Cat - David Michie

And The Mountains Echoed - Khaled Hosseini

The Mood Of Future Joys - Alastair Humphreys

Siddartha - Herman Hesse

Science References:

Dr Robert Sternberg - What is Wisdom and How Can We Develop It

Dr Patricia Alexander - The Development of Expertise: The Journey from Acclimation to Proficiency 

Dr Paul Zak - The Neuroscience of Narrative Transportation: Why Inspiring Stories Make Us React

Dr Keith Oatley - Fiction: The Narrative Simulation of Social Worlds

Dr Richard Nisbett - The Geography of Thought: How Asians and Westerners Think Differently

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Growth Mindset Psychology:
Sam Webster explores the psychology of happiness, satisfaction, purpose, and growth through the lens of self-improvement.
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Chapters:
00:00 How to actually help yourself with self-help
01:18 The Paradox of Modern Self-Help
02:36 The Slow Wisdom of Ancient Cultures
03:06 The Harm of Fast Advice & Illusion of Instant Mastery
05:01 Cal Newport's Framework for Personal Development - Three Types of Self-Help Content
06:17 The Candy Bar of Self-Help: Social Media
07:06 The Protein Shake: Longer Form Content
07:50 The Full Meal: Books
10:08 The Power of Narrative Transportation
19:27 The Value of Diverse Perspectives
20:56 Building a House of Personal Growth
22:08 A Balanced Approach to Content Consumption
24:13 The Danger of Overwhelming Amounts Information and Instructions
27:07 Conclusion: Cultivating Wisdom
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Self-Help Vs. Real-Help: How to Actually Improve Your Life

The science behind spreading Christmas cheer and getting people to like you.

Not only is Elf a wonderfully silly and enjoyable Christmas movie. Its premise is based on a fascinating concept that can be explored using psychology.

What happens when an adult is raised by elves?

Not only do we get to revisit a great story but we can learn about:

Attachment Theory

Identity Development

Social Contagion and spreading good vibes

Family Systems

Nuerodivergence and upbringing effects

The psychology of Jor and Wonder

A great way to learn some science and develop your own sense of curiosity and wonder is to dive headfirst down rabbit holes of psychology and overly analyse movies for the sheer hell of it.

It's a great movie and there's lots to learn about ourselves, Christmas and happiness when we look beyond the candy canes and maple syrup.

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Growth Mindset Psychology:
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Chapters:
00:00 Diving into Buddy the Elf's Psychology
01:14 Psychological Underpinnings of Elf
04:47 Buddy's Positive Coping Strategies
06:04 Identity, Cultural Adaptation and Stages of Identity Development
09:20 Buddy's Social Interactions
11:43 Social Contagion Theory
13:38 Buddy's Authentic Enthusiasm
16:10 Neurodivergence and Buddy's Brain
21:10 Psychology of Joy and Wonder
24:27 Family Systems and Buddy's Impact
27:04 Lessons from Buddy the Elf
28:14 Conclusion: Spread Joy and Wonder
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The Psychology of Buddy the Elf ☃️❄️🎅

Why do we get off track, and how do we get back on track?

Humans love goals, but where do our goals come from?

How much do we choose them vs. have them chosen for us...

We learn how to stop working towards destinations that look good to others.

Instead, we dissect what makes a good goal that creates a journey we want to go on.

Topics include:

The reality of aspirational destinations

Focussing on the journeys of your life

A healthy relationship with money

How to stay motivated

The rule of thirds

As we learn more about appreciating the road less travelled and what a good life means to us we can step back from the frenetic distractions and occupations to think about what really matters.

As the famous saying goes "It's just another cold dark night on the side of Everest" - Sometimes our goals feel boring in the day-to-day and we lose sight of the big picture. Remember there is something worth fighting for.

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Growth Mindset Psychology:
Sam Webster explores the psychology of happiness, satisfaction, purpose, and growth through the lens of self-improvement.
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Chapters:
00:00 Journey vs Destination and modern Decision overwhelm
02:09 Aspirational Destinations, Food Make-up and other myths
04:12 Reality is not sexy, Focus on the now
05:38 Think of your heartbeats
06:39 Beware chasing money
08:18 Enjoying the journey - What is a good game?
09:34 The Rule of Thirds
10:22 Another dark cold night on the side of everest
11:16 Take homes
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Journey vs Destination: How to Optimise For The Right Things In Life

What does it mean to live a good life?

The Stoics were the masters of asking the right questions to focus the mind on what's important.

At the year's end, it's a perfect time to reflect on who you've been this year and who you want to be going forward.

We juggle multiple priorities and hectic demands, so it's easy to get lost in the day-to-day. Today's episode will combine Psychology with Stoicism as we ask the most important questions we can of ourselves to help direct our lives in the direction we want them to take.

Topics include:

Turning obstacles into opportunity

Overcoming the fears that hold us back

Simplifying our life

Walking the walk

Taking control of our responsibilities.

Nowhere can man find a quieter or more untroubled retreat than in his own soul: Inner peace comes from self-awareness and reflection"

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Growth Mindset Psychology:
Sam Webster explores the psychology of happiness, satisfaction, purpose, and growth through the lens of self-improvement.
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Chapters:
00:00 Connecting Stoic wisdom and growth mindsets
02:36 Am I Practicing What I Preach?
03:59 How can I simplify my life to focus on what's important?
06:02 Will this matter in one year or five years time?
08:20 What is within my control?
10:18 How can I turn obstacles into opportunities?
14:17 What fears are holding me back?
15:32 How am I contributing to my own dissatisfaction?
17:01 To be or to do?
18:34 Are you doing your job?
19:41 What would it mean to live a good life today?
21:13 Send off
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10 Powerful Stoic Questions: Review Your Year and Refocus your Life

Stop Dreaming, Start Doing - Action is more important than planning.

We are increasingly addicted to planning yet more and more allergic to doing.

Get your ducks in a row this year as we learn about the psychology behind our goals and dreams and what it takes to knuckle down, make some hard decisions and start taking action.

We discuss some key concepts:

What is our real work

The problem with motivation and aspirations

Waiting for life to blow us in the right direction

4 Burners theory

Sam also shares his own results, including the failures and successes behind taking bigger leaps and focusing on your main goals.

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Growth Mindset Psychology:
Sam Webster explores the psychology of happiness, satisfaction, purpose, and growth through the lens of self-improvement.
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Chapters:
00:00 Amateur vs Professional goal-seeking
00:38 Growth Minded ambition vs Fixed Minded
01:07 The trap of 'find your calling'
02:29 The real work behind your calling
03:21 "When I feel like it" - means "never"
04:36 Writing as a hobby or a profession
06:16 Podcasting at professional quality
08:12 Making your own path
10:26 Sam's results and reflections
14:40 4 Burners Hypothesis
16:26 Questions to stop dreaming and start doing
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The Life-Changing Magic of Actually Doing Stuff - Start 2025 Right

The psychology of beating procrastination, inaction, and confusion that lets you systematically work towards any goal.

Goal setting is easy - Goal achieving is a very different thing.

We dig into the main causes and the often small but subtle tweaks we can make that keep us in check.

Using ideas from psychology and ancient wisdom we see how humans have dealt with the big hairy ambitious goals over history and how you can too:

Task Initiation Paralysis - Shows us how Charles Darwin overcame the most complex tasks in history.

Ulysses Contracts - Teaches us how Victor Hugo wrote the timeless Hunchback of Notre Dame ahead of schedule by engineering his environment.

Effective vs Fluffy Intentions - How psychologists helped heart surgery patients double their success rates through a simple sentence change.

Sam also lists some of the most effective resources and tools you can access to stay on track to beat the common problems we face.

This episode carries on the mini-series on goals and achievement:

Journey vs Destination - Choosing the right goals

Stop dreaming, start doing - The magic of actually doing stuff

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Growth Mindset Psychology:
Sam Webster explores the psychology of happiness, satisfaction, purpose, and growth through the lens of self-improvement.
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Chapters:
00:00 How we lose track of reality and where to find it
01:21 Unrealistic expectations
02:07 Not ready for the moment
05:36 Time to adjust to new habit
06:11 Personal responsibility - No external help - No momentum
07:49 Charles Darwin and Task Initiation Paralysis
10:02 Beating Motivation with "when - Then" contracts
13:06 Ulysses contracts and Victor Hugo's writing strategy
16:47 Get it out of your head
17:43 Cohort learning
19:10 Coaching
20:02 Accountability Groups
21:45 Future letters
23:02 Bonus tips
24:07 Temporal discounting and the real Marshmallow study
26:18 Keeping promises to ourselves
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What Are The Top 5 Reasons People Fail To Achieve Their Goals

The laws of physics are the only true limits, stop letting your brain set fake limits.

We accrue all sorts of limiting beliefs for different reasons. Our culture and reference points hide them from us. Or fear of failure keeps us small.

This episode explores the psychology of self-limiting beliefs and fixed mindset ideas that sit hidden and unchallenged in our mind.

These limiting beliefs sabotage our potential and the only way to stop them it to take ownership of your own thoughts.

We explore:

How mental barriers form and get accepted

What ingredients make a genius

Neuroplasticity and performance at any age

The best strategies to grow your comfort zone

As we launch into 2025 it's a great time to reflect on what has held us back and raise our bar for this year. This episode will help you set your sights higher and uncover the areas of potential you have untapped.

This episode carries on the mini-series on goals and achievement:

Journey vs Destination - Choosing the right goals

Stop dreaming, start doing - The magic of actually doing stuff

What are the top 5 Reasons we Fail to achieve our goals.

Previous season on Fear:

The Neuroscience of Fear: Understanding anxiety, trauma & tools to overcome fear

4 Hidden Fears that Secretly Sabotage Your Life

3 Tactics to Leave Your Comfort Zone and Overcome Fear of Failure

The Psychology of Fear, Security and Emotional Intelligence (PolyVagal Theory)

The Secrets Behind Curiosity Without Worry (Stephen Porges)

How To Stop Catastrophising

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Growth Mindset Psychology:
Sam Webster explores the psychology of happiness, satisfaction, purpose, and growth through the lens of self-improvement.
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Chapters:
00:00 The Illusion of Limitations
02:18 Self-Efficacy Theory & The Brain's Security System
04:23 Safe Limits & Overcoming Social Anxiety
06:39 Reference Point Dependence
08:46 The Four-Minute Mile Barrier
09:52 Cultural Influences on Limitations
11:12 The Polgar Experiment: Genius is Made
13:18 Learning at Any Age
16:17 The Power of Environment
18:45 Advert Break
19:09 The Placebo Effect
20:46 Redesigning Your Environment
23:06 Strategies to Break Mental Barriers
24:08 Questioning Your Limits
26:40 Final Thoughts on Overcoming Barriers
27:19 Conclusion
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How To Overcome Your Personal limits: Grow Out Of Your Comfort Zone

Strategic decision-making approaches to build wisdom in your everyday decisions. 

Annie Duke is the author of Thinking in Bets - A book full of genius psychology and poker tips to help you build mental models to make better decisions.

Annie is a psychologist studying cognitive behavioural decision science and in her life as a professional poker player she won the World Series. She was even the highest-paid female player in history when she retired.

Her psychology helped her poker and her poker helped her psychology.

The summation of her lessons are wrapped up in the book 'thinking in bets' and in today's episode I break down my 5 favourite rules and mental models from the book that are worth using in your life.

At a simple level, building wisdom is the process of making better decisions. Nothing more. so that's what we're going to learn about today

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163: Making bets that pay off - Annie Duke - 23rd March 2021

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Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/episode/1GXnNJqhPfZJtLxb7M3dCp?si=8e8a2edaa82f4ada

Thinking Fast and Slow - 12th July 2024

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Sam Webster explores the psychology of happiness, satisfaction, purpose, and growth through the lens of self-improvement.
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Chapters
00:00 Thinking in Bets summary - Understanding life's chances
01:56 How Annie Got into Poker
04:24 Rule 1 - Seek Truth
05:26 Rule 2 - Do not chase losses
07:08 Mental models
07:35 Model 1 - Wisdom is good choices - (you don't know what a good choice is)
10:32 Model 2 - Question common knowledge
12:55 Model 3 - Make bets
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5 Genius Mental Models From Poker to Help Master Life: Thinking In Bets

Insightful ways to examine your life and better define where it's going.
We steal some of the best questions and ideas from different domains that you can try applying to your own life.

What is a life worth living

Healthy vs toxic aspirations

How to abandon what doesn't serve you

The illusion of self-importance

Our guest today is Jodi Wellman the author of "You Only Die Once" and a source of positive ideas from her work in Applied Positive Psychology.
Jodi has a morbid fascination with positive ideas from existential psychology to help brighten your day.
As they say "Get busy living, or get busy dying".

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Jodi Wellman

Book - You Only Die Once

Website - Four Thousand Mondays

Quiz - How dead or alive are you?

Insta - @FourThousandMondays

Growth Mindset pod
Sam Webster Harris explores the psychology of happiness, satisfaction, purpose, and growth through the lens of self-improvement.
Success and happiness is a state of mind unique to ourselves and is our responsibility to create.

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Mail - GrowthMindsetPodcast(at)gmail.com

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Chapters
00:00 Importance of good questions
01:40 Net-promoter score - Would you recommend your life?
07:24 Abandoning What No Longer Serves You
10:33 Consistent Reminders and Psychological Tricks
14:26 Overcoming the Illusion of Personal Specialness
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4 Unusual and Brilliant Questions To Make You Think w/ Jodi Wellman

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