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The Athletic's Amy Lawrence and James McNicholas join Ian Stone to wonder aloud at the latest poor performance from Arsenal.

They decide on a scale of 1 (Silvestre) to 10 (Henry) how much they are looking forward to the North London Derby, and whether our midfield will ever play a forward pass again.

Plus the best of the week's writing in the Athletic is discussed, as well as Amy's recent interview with Arsene Wenger, and David Ornstein's chat with Freddie Ljunberg

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