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Retired Navy SEAL, Jocko Willink and Director, Echo Charles discuss discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships and everyday life.


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From boat insertions under monsoon rains to surprise assaults on hidden VC camps, this episode takes you deep into the Mekong Delta with SEAL veterans Tom Boylan and Hal McNulty. They reveal the challenges of intelligence, leadership, and survival—plus the hard lessons carried into life, family, and business long after the war.

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512: Into the Delta. Charlie Platoon, SEAL Missions in Vietnam. With Hal Kuykendal and Tom Boyhan

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How to Get Through Life With No support. 

Why haven't any women become SEALs?

Capitalizing on moving away from your hometown comfort zone. 

Encountering strange threats to your family in public. 

Starting a Jiu Jitsu group in your neighborhood. 

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Jocko Underground: Smashing Life with No Support | Could a Woman Be a Navy SEAL?

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From the chaos of Ramadi to the pain of losing his best friend, Ben Sledge recounts combat, moral injury, and how faith and storytelling became his path to healing.

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511: Between Firefights and Faith, Lessons From Ramadi to Recovery. With Ben Sledge.

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What to Do When Your Boss’s Plan Will Destroy EverythingIs It Betrayal to Train Somewhere Else?How Do I Lead When I Feel Like I’m Not Good Enough?Why Can’t I See My Progress When I’m Getting Better?How Do I Escape the Grind Without Losing Everything?

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Jocko Underground: The Cure to Being Overwhelmed, Inadequate, and Afraid.

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The second part to The Need to Lead, by Dave Berke. How ego quietly sabotages leaders and teams. When we see others’ failures as our wins, frustration and judgment take over. We talk about how that mindset damages trust, limits growth, and creates division. The conversation shows how shifting from ego to ownership not only builds stronger relationships but also unlocks the real strength of leadership—helping others rise instead of hoping they fall.

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510: The Ego Trap In Leadership. The Need To Lead Pt.2. With Dave Berke.

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Accept That The People Around You May Not Want To Do Their Best 

How to have the best relationship with your family members when they do not want to improve themselves.

How to influence people to be a better version of themself.

If you're struggling with balance and have an addictive personality.

The 1-5 system of evaluating your performance on ANYTHING.

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Jocko Underground: Accept That The People Around You May Not Want To Do Their Best

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Dave Burke breaks down why humility, detachment, and rejecting perfection are the foundation of true leadership. Jocko adds his perspective from the SEAL Teams to reveal what separates leaders who win from those who fail.

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509: The Need to Lead: Lessons from Dogfights, Dunker Drills, and Ego Checks. With Dave Berke.

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Up before the enemy. Disciplined vs. Crazy

Balancing it all. Training as a Specialized Officer

Discovering a family member's Infidelity

Homeschool vs. Public School Debate

Friendship Destroyed by Politics. What to do.

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Jocko Underground: "Up Before The Enemy". Disciplined? Foolish? Or Not That Serious?

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Retired Marine Major Scott Huesing, author of Echo in Ramadi, to walk through the brutal realities of combat in Iraq’s deadliest city, the cost of leadership, and the transition back home. Scott shares the powerful story of his Marines, the memorials for the fallen, his personal battles after service, and how writing became a new mission to honor and preserve these stories. From Gold Star families to fellow veterans finding their voice, this is a conversation about sacrifice, resilience, and keeping the legacy alive.

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508: The Mission Continues Beyond Ramadi. With Major Scott Huesing

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Secretary of Veterans Affairs Doug Collins about the realities of leadership in war, ministry, law, Congress, and now the VA. Collins shares hard lessons from funerals and eulogies, where grief and writing become tools for healing. He reflects on the brutality of “full-contact politics,” bipartisan wins that mattered, and the chaos of impeachment battles. From his close work with President Trump to his current mission inside the nation’s second-largest department, Collins lays out the scale of the VA—health care, benefits, cemeteries—and the fight to cut through bureaucracy. This conversation is about service, accountability, and the relentless effort to honor veterans not as victims, but as warriors who deserve the best care their nation can give.

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507: Leadership and Accountability at the VA. With Secretary Doug Collins

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Staying strong and grieving to get over tragedy.

In a slump after a big failure.

Finding a new mission to crush life.

Facing your traumatic past from family members.

Why are pull-ups even important?

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Jocko Underground: Getting Over Tragedy | Get Out Of Your Slump and Crush It.

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