What is quantitative modeling and what does it have to do with real estate investing? More than most people realize. In this episode, Jeannette Friedrich is joined by finance professor and former Federal Reserve fellow David Leather to break down the world of quantitative modeling - what it is, how it evolved, and why real estate investors should be paying closer attention to it in 2025 and beyond. From office-to-residential conversions to interest rate predictions, this conversation offers a smarter way to think about risk, returns, and real estate strategy.
Guest: David Leather, Assistant Professor of Finance & Real Estate, Chapman University
Key Takeaways:
What quant modeling really means Learn how quantitative finance evolved and how it applies to modeling asset prices, portfolios, and even real estate cap rates in a changing economy.
How real estate is catching up Why improved data availability is making it possible (and necessary) to apply quant techniques in real estate decision-making.
The future of office buildings What signals could indicate a return-to-office trend, and the economic and architectural hurdles behind converting office assets to multifamily housing.
Affordable housing strategies How spatially targeted LIHTC policy could be optimizedโand why more conversions arenโt happening without government support.
Refinancing in a tough lending environment Practical advice for investors with development loans maturing in the next few yearsโand the risks of waiting too long to refinance.
Reading the Fed and the rates What investors should track to anticipate shifts in interest rate policy and private debt market conditions.
A practical alternative to homeownership Why REITs may be a smarter investment than owning a home in high-cost markets like Southern California.
This episode is for any investor who wants to think more rigorouslyโand more strategicallyโabout what drives real estate performance today.
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction to Quant Modeling
00:18 Meet David Leather: Finance and Real Estate Expert
01:29 Understanding Quantitative Modeling in Real Estate
05:18 The Office Sector and Real Estate Conversions
09:03 Affordable Housing and Policy Recommendations
19:15 Lightning Round and Final Thoughts
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Credits
Producer: Blue Lake Capital
Strategist: Syed Mahmood
Editor: Emma Walker
Opening music: Pomplamoose
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