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This is what the news should sound like. The biggest stories of our time, told by the best journalists in the world. Hosted by Michael Barbaro, Rachel Abrams and Natalie Kitroeff. Twenty minutes a day, five days a week, ready by 6 a.m. 

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The Daily

The Academy Award-winning actress discusses her lifelong quest for connection, humanity’s innate goodness and the point of being alive.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything
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'The Interview': Tilda Swinton Would Like a Word With Trump About His Mother

The host of the “Call Her Daddy” podcast and founder of the Unwell Network discusses her interview with Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of the 2024 election, her podcast’s journey from chatting about sex advice to delving into more serious subjects and how the Unwell Network’s fan merchandise became a eight-figure business.

“I don’t care if people consider me a journalist or a podcaster, or just a girl that talks online every week.”

This interview was with Andrew Ross Sorkin of The New York Times at the annual DealBook Summit and recorded live in front of an audience at Jazz at Lincoln Center. Read more about highlights from the day at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/04/business/dealbook-summit-news

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From DealBook: Alex Cooper on Building a Media Brand

Syria has been controlled by one family for more than half a century who ruled by repression, devastation and violence.

But about two weeks ago, the regime began to falter, and then over the course of one night, it collapsed.

Carlotta Gall, a senior correspondent for The New York Times, discusses the fall of Bashar al-Assad and what comes next.

Guest: Carlotta Gall, a senior correspondent for The New York Times, focusing on the human aspect of wars and civil strife.

Background reading: 

 • Live updates:
 The rebels who toppled Assad face stark challenges in Syria • .
 • With Assad gone, a brutal dictatorship ends.
 But the new risks are huge • .

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Inside The Fall Of Syria’s Brutal Dictator

Last week, the chief executive of UnitedHealthcare was shot and killed in Manhattan. A five-day search for the gunman ensued.

On Monday, a 26-year-old suspect, Luigi Mangione, was arrested in Pennsylvania after an employee at a McDonald’s recognized him and called the police.

Dionne Searcey, who covers wealth and corporations, and Maria Cramer, a crime reporter in New York City, break down what we know about the suspect, and what the case has revealed about many Americans’ contempt for insurance companies.

Guest: 

Dionne Searcey • , a reporter for The New York Times writing about how the choices made by people and corporations affect the future of our planet.
Maria Cramer • , a reporter for The New York Times covering the New York Police Department and crime in the city and surrounding areas.

Background reading: 

The suspect was an Ivy League tech graduate • from a prominent Maryland family who in recent months had suffered physical and psychological pain.
A visual timeline • of the UnitedHealthcare C.E.O. shooting.

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The Manhunt, the Manifesto and the Murder Charge

On Sunday, after a fire that many feared would destroy it, and a swift renovation that defied all predictions, the Cathedral of Notre-Dame reopened to the public.

Michael Kimmelman, the chief architecture critic at The Times, tells the story of the miracle on the Seine.

Guest: Michael Kimmelman, the architecture critic of The New York Times and the founder and editor-at-large of Headway.

Background reading: 

 • Critic’s Notebook:
 Notre-Dame’s astonishing rebirth from the ashes • .
 • The rebuilding took about
 250 companies, 2,000 workers, about $900 million • , a tight deadline and a lot of national pride.
See photos • from the reopening.

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Notre-Dame Rises From the Ashes

An alarming new hack by China has penetrated the nerve center of the United States: its telephone network.

David E. Sanger, the White House and national security correspondent for The New York Times, discusses what the scope of the attack tells us about China’s growing power.

Guest: David E. Sanger, the White House and national security correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • The chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee said
 hackers listened to phone calls and read texts • by exploiting aging equipment and seams in the networks that connect systems.
 • Emerging details of Chinese hack have left U.S. officials
 increasingly concerned • .

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How China Hacked America’s Phone Network

A new study has found that nearly three-quarters of American adults are now obese or overweight, and there’s growing concern — among politicians, scientists and consumers — about one potential culprit: ultraprocessed foods.

Guest: Alice Callahan, a nutrition and health reporter for The New York Times, discusses how these foods came to be such a big part of what we eat, and why that’s so hard to change. 

Background reading: 

 • There’s not enough evidence to recommend avoiding ultraprocessed foods, a scientific advisory committee says.
 Some experts disagree • .
 • Name a common condition — heart disease, Type 2 diabetes, cancer, dementia, irritable bowel syndrome — and chances are good that a diet high in
 ultraprocessed foods has been linked to it • . 

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A Turning Point for Ultraprocessed Foods

The guidebook writer and television personality reflects on his cancer diagnosis, social media’s corrosive effect on tourism and the transformative power of travel.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything
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'The Interview': Rick Steves Refuses To Get Cynical About the World

“You couldn’t have made this movie three years ago,” said Robert Zemeckis, the director of “Here.”

The film stars Tom Hanks and Robin Wright, and is based on a 2014 graphic novel that takes place in a single spot in the world over several centuries. The story mostly takes place in a suburban New Jersey living room. It skips back and forth through time, but focuses on a baby-boomer couple — played by Hanks and Wright — at various stages of their lives, from age 18 into their 80s.

Before A.I. software, Zemeckis could have had multiple actors play each character, but the audience might have gotten lost trying to keep track. Conventional makeup could have taken a decade off Hanks, who is now 68, but not half a century. The issue with C.G.I. is time and money. Persuading us that we’re watching Hanks and Wright in their 20s would have required hundreds of visual effects artists, tens of millions of dollars and months of postproduction work. A.I. software, though, changed all that accounting.

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The Sunday Read: ‘What if A.I. Is Actually Good for Hollywood?’

Warning: this episode contains strong language.

Over the past few weeks, the resistance of a single Republican senator, Joni Ernst of Iowa, had threatened to derail Donald J. Trump’s choice of Pete Hegseth to run the Department of Defense.

Karoun Demirjian, who covers Congress for The Times, and Jonathan Swan, who covers politics, discuss how Mr. Trump and his allies ensured that Ms. Ernst’s resistance went away.

Guest: 

Karoun Demirjian • , who covers Congress for The New York Times, with a focus on national security.
Jonathan Swan • , a Times reporter covering politics and Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign.

Background reading: 

 • Mr. Trump became convinced that letting Mr. Hegseth fail would
 set off a feeding frenzy • among senators.
 • Ms. Ernst, who is facing re-election in 2026, appeared less skeptical about the pick after MAGA supporters
 threatened her with political retribution • .

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Pete Hegseth Was Toast. The MAGA Swarm Came to His Rescue.

The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that a landmark civil rights law protects gay and transgender workers from workplace discrimination. We examine the three words the case hung on; what the written opinions had to say about bathrooms, locker rooms, sports, pronouns and religious objections to same-sex marriage; and the implications for the ruling. Guest: Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court for The Times and Aimee Stephens, the lead plaintiff in a transgender discrimination case heard by the Supreme Court. Ms. Stephens died in May; she was 59. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily 

Background reading: 

 • Ms. Stephens was fired after she announced that she would live as a woman. 
She did not live • to see the Supreme Court rule in her favor.
 • Until Monday’s decision, 
it was legal in more than half of the states • to fire workers for being gay, bisexual or transgender.
 • The justices are confronting an unusually potent mix of political and social issues in the middle of both a presidential election year and a public health crisis. 
Here’s an overview of the major cases • this year to get you up to speed.

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A Landmark Supreme Court Ruling

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