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Hosts Mike Ferguson and Mike Gibson guide you through the most interesting true crime stories. This is a true crime podcast that spares none of the details and delves into what makes these killers tick. Join us for a good mix of lesser known cases as well as our take on what we call the "Big Timers". We don't take ourselves too seriously but we take true crime very seriously.


True Crime All The Time

Bruce McArthur is a grandfather who worked as a landscaper and a mall Santa in the off-season. For nearly eight years, McArthur lived a secret life as a serial killer, primarily targeting men in The Gay Village, an LGBTQ+-friendly area of Toronto.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the Canadian serial killer Bruce McArthur. In part one of the Bruce McArthur episodes, we’ll cover the police investigation and how McArthur was first identified in connection with missing men. Rumors about the missing men and a possible serial killer in Toronto’s Gay Village started in 2010. McArthur had a habit of targeting South Asian or Middle Eastern men who struggled with their sexuality. He knew many of his victims, which meant there was a connection to him; the police just had to put all of the pieces of the puzzle together.

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Bruce McArthur Part 1

Bruce McArthur is a grandfather who worked as a landscaper and a mall Santa in the off-season. For nearly eight years, McArthur lived a secret life as a serial killer, primarily targeting men in The Gay Village, an LGBTQ+-friendly area of Toronto.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss the Canadian serial killer Bruce McArthur. In part two of the Bruce McArthur episodes, we’ll cover the final disappearances in the Gay Village, how McArthur was finally caught, and his later court proceedings. Rumors about the missing men and a possible serial killer in Toronto’s Gay Village started in 2010. McArthur had a habit of targeting South Asian or Middle Eastern men who struggled with their sexuality. He knew many of his victims, which meant there was a connection to him; the police just had to put all of the pieces of the puzzle together.

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Bruce McArthur Part 2

Micaela “Mickey” Costanzo was a 16-year-old from West Wendover, Nevada, who was murdered by two teens, one of whom she briefly dated. One suspect was identified quickly, but the other surprised investigators by coming forward on her own weeks later. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Kodi Patten and Toni Fratto. Both teens were arrested and charged with the murder of Micaela Costanzo. But Patten and Fratto told several different stories, which clouded the investigation. Investigators had to sift through the evidence to determine precisely what happened to Mickey and who did what. But the motive for the murder remained even more elusive.

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Kodi Patten and Toni Fratto

Steve Pankey was a husband, father, car salesman, and Idaho gubernatorial candidate. He was recently convicted of murdering 12-year-old Jonelle Matthews, bringing closure to a case that had been cold for decades. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Steve Pankey and the murder of Jonelle Matthews. Jonelle went missing in December of 1984 after arriving at her Colorado home. When her parents got home, they became frantic, and a massive search ensued, but the case went cold. Jonelle's remains weren't found until 2019. Steve Pankey had been a person of interest for years and made several incriminating statements. But would the evidence against him be enough for a conviction?

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Steve Pankey

Stephen Reitz invoked a sleepwalking defense after he was charged with killing a woman during a weekend getaway. He claimed he woke up from a dream that he was fighting off an intruder and discovered her body. Investigators doubted his story, especially when they uncovered evidence about his tumultuous relationship with the victim. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Stephen Reitz. Could a person really commit a savage murder during a sleepwalking incident, or is it a convenient way to explain a cold-blooded murder? That is what a jury was tasked with deciding in the case of Stephen Reitz. 

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Stephen Reitz

Bernard Finch was a wealthy doctor who worked in the San Gabriel Valley in Southern California. In 1958, he began having an affair with his married receptionist Carole Tregoff. When Dr. Finch’s wife was found dead, the two became the prime suspects.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Bernard Finch and Carole Tregoff. Finch was the type of man used to getting his way. He also had a habit of divorcing wives when he fell in love with a younger woman. But Barbara Finch was in a position to divorce Bernard and take a great deal of his assets. This is something that Bernard couldn't have, and he made a plan to do something about it.

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Bernard Finch and Carole Tregoff

April Millsap was murdered while walking her dog on a popular Michigan trail. Prosecutors used data from her digital footprint to help secure a conviction in her 2014 murder case. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss James VanCallis. Some eyewitnesses saw a man on a motorcycle interacting with a young girl on the trail, and they were able to provide a composite sketch. The police had to work to put together a circumstantial case against VanCallis. Would it be enough for a jury to convict?

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James VanCallis

Kevin Bacon left home on Christmas Eve 2019 to see a man he met on a dating app that evening. After his parents reported him missing the following day, the police received a tip that led them to the home of Mark Latunski, who was already known to police because of two disturbing incidents earlier that year. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Mark Latunski. Before meeting Kevin, two different men called 911 to report that Mark Latunski had kept them chained up in his basement. But both men declined to press charges, and it seems police did little investigation. Could police have prevented the murder and cannibalism carried out by Mark Latunski?

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Mark Latunski

In 1958, 16-year-old William Leslie Arnold shot his parents over a dispute involving the family car. Less than a decade into his life sentence, he escaped prison and was on the run for over forty years. In 2022, a genealogy database finally revealed his whereabouts. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss William Leslie Arnold. The crimes he committed as a 16-year-old were horrific. They were made even more disturbing because they were carried out against the people who loved him the most. But many have said that his mother was extremely domineering. Was that the motive for the murders? Arnold's escape and life on the run are fascinating, and the fact that he could elude the authorities for so long is almost unbelievable.

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William Leslie Arnold

Richard Glossip spent years on Oklahoma’s death row for a murder he says he did not commit. He has come within hours of execution and has been served his last meal three times. Richard has filed numerous appeals and professed his innocence for over 20 years. 

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss Richard Glossip. He was convicted of murdering his boss and sentenced to death row. The trial revolved around circumstantial evidence and testimony from an alleged accomplice. But many believe Glossip may not be guilty, or at least he deserves a new trial.

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Richard Glossip

George Kent Wallace did his first prison stint at the age of 25. Newspapers dubbed him "The Mad Paddler" because he was convicted of abducting a number of boys in North Carolina and paddling them. Wallace would get out but go on to amass a lengthy prison record. Eventually, he turned to murder.

Join Mike and Gibby as they discuss "The Mad Paddler" George Wallace. Wallace impersonated a police officer to stop young boys. He would handcuff them, put them in his car, and then paddle them. But, as with many violent criminals, eventually even that wasn't enough. He began to murder these boys. What would drive a person to want to paddle children and then murder them? This is one of those cases where you're left wondering how one man could commit and be convicted of so many crimes only to be let out of prison time and time again.

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George Kent Wallace "The Mad Paddler"

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