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The New York Times

This is what the news should sound like. The biggest stories of our time, told by the best journalists in the world. Hosted by Michael Barbaro, Rachel Abrams and Natalie Kitroeff. Twenty minutes a day, five days a week, ready by 6 a.m. 

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The Daily

The longtime editor and chronicler of the elite says she’s liberated and is letting it rip.

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'The Interview': Tina Brown on Epstein, the Über-Rich and Her Most Burning Resentments

Drugs like Ozempic and Zepbound have revolutionized weight loss. And starting next year, the drugs are going to become more affordable for Americans because of a deal struck with pharmaceutical companies by the Trump administration.

Eshe Nelson, who covers economics and business news, explains how the change has its origins in a huge business blunder from the creator of Ozempic, Novo Nordisk.

Guest: Eshe Nelson, a reporter for The New York Times based in London, where she covers economics and business news.

Background reading: 

 • How 
Ozempic’s maker lost its shine • after creating a wonder drug.
What Trump’s new drug pricing deal means • for people with obesity.

Photo: Sergei Gapon/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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Ozempic for All?

Thousands of pages of newly released emails between Jeffrey Epstein and his associates have put the convicted sex offender’s relationship with President Trump back in the spotlight.

David Enrich and Michael Gold, who have been covering the story, explain what the new documents tell us and discuss whether they could prompt the release of the rest of the Epstein files.

Guest: 

David Enrich • , a deputy investigations editor for The New York Times.
Michael Gold • , a congressional correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Mr. Trump said the Democrats were 
bringing up the Epstein “hoax” • to deflect from the government shutdown.
 • House Republicans asserted that the emails 
revealed little information • .

Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

Warning: This episode contains strong language.

As the Trump administration ramps up its crackdown on illegal immigration, it has turned to Gregory Bovino, a Border Patrol official, to try to increase deportations. He has been at the center of some of the most aggressive raids and tactics being used in American cities.

Hamed Aleaziz, who covers immigration policy, speaks to Mr. Bovino about his career and why his militaristic approach may be here to stay.

Guest:

Hamed Aleaziz • , who covers the Department of Homeland Security and immigration policy in the United States for The New York Times.
Gregory Bovino • , the Border Patrol chief leading the Southern California immigration crackdown.

Background reading: 

Read the interview • with Mr. Bovino.
 • A federal judge ruled that Mr. Bovino, who has also led operations in Chicago, had 
lied about tear gas usage in clampdowns there • .

Photo: Gabriela Bhaskar/The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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An Interview With the Man Behind Trump’s Current Immigration Crackdown

On Monday night, a small group of Senate Democrats broke from their colleagues and struck a deal with Republicans to try to end the government shutdown. The vote signaled a break in the gridlock that has shuttered the government for weeks.

Catie Edmondson and Shane Goldmacher discuss the agreement, and the rift in the Democratic Party.

Guest:

Catie Edmondson • , a congressional correspondent for The New York Times.
Shane Goldmacher • , a national political correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • The Senate 
passed a bill • to reopen the government.
 • The agreement prompted 
a backlash within the Democratic Party • .

Photo: Tierney L. Cross/The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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The Messy Politics of the Democratic Shutdown Deal

Twenty years ago, a genocidal campaign in the Darfur region of Sudan shocked the world. Now, videos and images of new atrocities have captured global attention once more.

Declan Walsh, who has been covering Sudan, discusses one of the worst humanitarian conflicts in decades, and how gold is fueling it.

Guest: Declan Walsh, the chief Africa correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • From December: 
The gold rush at the heart of a civil war • .
 • News Analysis: The world seems unable, or unwilling, to do much to stop a new struggle on an old battlefield 
as atrocities sweep villages and towns • .

Photo: Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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The Gold Rush Behind a Civil War

The story of how this extraordinary situation in the Lehigh Valley came to light — because it almost didn’t.

In the summer of 2023, reporter Dyan Neary received a tip about a problematic doctor in Pennsylvania. Families were claiming that when they sought medical care for their children, this pediatrician falsely accused them of abuse, and their children were taken away from them. The Preventionist traces this doctor’s decades-long career across multiple states, and explores the rise of a new and powerful kind of specialist, the “child abuse pediatrician” — whose decisions can be incredibly difficult to challenge.

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From Serial: 'The Preventionist'

In this special, subscriber-only episode of “The Daily,” we hear from The New York Times’s chief restaurant critics.

Ligaya Mishan and Tejal Rao discuss their jobs, and answer listeners’ burning questions.

Guest: Ligaya Mishan and Tejal Rao

Photo: Tony Cenicola/The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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Our Restaurant Critics Dish

The pugnacious conservative late-night host on his "hierarchy of smears" and the risks of being a scold.

 • Thoughts? Email us at 
theinterview@nytimes.com • Watch our show on YouTube: 
youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcast • For transcripts and more, visit: 
nytimes.com/theinterview

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'The Interview': Fox News Wanted Greg Gutfeld to Do This Interview. He Wasn’t So Sure.

Over the past few days, Republicans have suffered some major losses at the ballot box, Supreme Court justices have expressed skepticism about tariffs and Congress’s refusal to end the government shutdown will result in thousands of canceled flights. It adds up to a very bad week for the Trump White House.

In a special round-table episode, The Times’s national political correspondent Lisa Lerer, the White House correspondent Tyler Pager and the congressional editor Julie Davis try to make sense of it all.

Guests: 

Julie Hirschfeld Davis • , congressional editor at The New York Times.
Lisa Lerer • , a national political correspondent for The New York Times.
Tyler Pager • , a White House correspondent for The New York Times, covering President Trump and his administration.

Background reading: 

Republicans point fingers after their losses, but not at Trump.

Here are five takeaways from the Supreme Court argument over tariffs.

As the hours dwindled before flight cuts, the government spent most of the time in silence.

Photo: Haiyun Jiang/The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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Trump's Bad Week

Hundreds of electronic devices carried by Hezbollah members exploded simultaneously across Lebanon on Tuesday and Wednesday in an audacious plot by Israel.

Patrick Kingsley, the Jerusalem bureau chief for The New York Times, discusses what the attack accomplished, and what it cost.

Guest: Patrick Kingsley, the Jerusalem bureau chief for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

What we know • about the deadly wireless-device explosions in Lebanon.
 • Israel’s pager attack was
 a tactical success without a strategic goal • , analysts say.

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.

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The Day Thousands of Pagers Exploded in Lebanon

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