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The New York Times

This is what the news should sound like. The biggest stories of our time, told by the best journalists in the world. Hosted by Michael Barbaro, Rachel Abrams and Natalie Kitroeff. Twenty minutes a day, five days a week, ready by 6 a.m. 

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The Daily

The pugnacious conservative late-night host on his "hierarchy of smears" and the risks of being a scold.

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'The Interview': Fox News Wanted Greg Gutfeld to Do This Interview. He Wasn’t So Sure.

Over the past few days, Republicans have suffered some major losses at the ballot box, Supreme Court justices have expressed skepticism about tariffs and Congress’s refusal to end the government shutdown will result in thousands of canceled flights. It adds up to a very bad week for the Trump White House.

In a special round-table episode, The Times’s national political correspondent Lisa Lerer, the White House correspondent Tyler Pager and the congressional editor Julie Davis try to make sense of it all.

Guests: 

Julie Hirschfeld Davis • , congressional editor at The New York Times.
Lisa Lerer • , a national political correspondent for The New York Times.
Tyler Pager • , a White House correspondent for The New York Times, covering President Trump and his administration.

Background reading: 

Republicans point fingers after their losses, but not at Trump.

Here are five takeaways from the Supreme Court argument over tariffs.

As the hours dwindled before flight cuts, the government spent most of the time in silence.

Photo: Haiyun Jiang/The New York Times

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Trump's Bad Week

On Wednesday, the Supreme Court heard arguments about whether President Trump had the authority to impose the highest tariffs that the United States has seen in a century.

Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court for The Times, explains why it seems that the justices might be prepared to say no to the president.

Guest: Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court and writes Sidebar, a column on legal developments, for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Read 
five key takeaways • from the Supreme Court’s tariff argument.
 • The outcome of the case has 
immense economic and political implications • for U.S. businesses, consumers and the president’s trade policy.

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Supreme Court Seems Skeptical of Trump’s Tariffs

In the first big elections of the new Trump era, Democrats triumphed in New York City, Virginia and New Jersey. They also won up and down the ballot across the country.

Shane Goldmacher, a national political correspondent, explains what the voting tells us about President Trump’s status and discusses whether Democrats have finally found their footing.

Guest: Shane Goldmacher, a national political correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

 • Read 
six takeaways • from the elections.
 • Here are 
results from key races • .
 • In New York, Zohran Mamdani 
became the city’s first Muslim mayor • and its youngest in more than a century.

Photo: Bryan Anselm for The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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A Good Night for Democrats

Tens of millions of Americans depend on the food-stamp program known as SNAP. Without federal assistance, many of them do not know how they will provide for themselves or their families. “The Daily” visits one of the communities most reliant on food aid.

The Trump administration has agreed to restore some of the funding for SNAP, but there’s still uncertainty about how much money will come through, and when.

Tony Romm, who covers economic policy and the Trump administration for The New York Times, discusses the fight over SNAP as the government enters its second month of shutdown.

Guest: Tony Romm, a reporter covering economic policy and the Trump administration for The New York Times, is based in Washington.

Background reading: 

 • The Trump administration will send 
only partial food stamp payments this month • .
 • The cuts to SNAP 
have exposed President Trump’s strategy • to use the government shutdown to advance his agenda.

Photo: Joe Raedle/Getty Images

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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The Millions of Poor Americans at the Mercy of the Shutdown

Over the past two decades, no company has done more to shape the American workplace than Amazon. In its ascent to become the nation’s second-largest employer, it has developed an aggressive corporate culture and pioneered using technology to hire, monitor and manage workers.

Now, interviews and a cache of internal strategy documents reveal that Amazon executives believe their company is on the cusp of their next big workplace shift: replacing more than half a million jobs with robots.

Karen Weise takes us inside Amazon’s push toward automation and the implications for the company and potentially for the broader economy.

Guest: Karen Weise, a technology correspondent for The New York Times, based in Seattle.

Background reading: 

Amazon plans to replace more than half a million jobs with robots • .
Meet Sparrow, Cardinal and Proteus, the robots powering Amazon’s automation.
Photo: Emily Kask for The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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Amazon's Robot Takeover

This year has been a banner year for video games, with an abundance of surprise releases and unexpected hits.

On this week’s Sunday Special, Gilbert Cruz talks with two fellow gamers — Zachary Small, a culture reporter, and Jason Bailey, an editor on The Times’s culture desk — about the state of the industry, the biggest releases and the games they loved playing in 2025. They also share their predictions for Game of the Year.

On Today’s Episode

Zachary Small is a culture reporter for The Times.

Jason M. Bailey is an editor on the culture desk, and oversees The Times’s video game coverage.

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Sunday Special: The Year in Gaming

At only 35, the actress has been through the celebrity wringer. Here’s where she landed.

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theinterview@nytimes.com • Watch our show on YouTube: 
youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcast • For transcripts and more, visit: 
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'The Interview': Jennifer Lawrence Regrets Everything She’s Ever Said or Done

Representative Kevin Kiley is one of five California Republicans who are all but certain to lose their seats in the next midterm elections if voters grant final approval to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s newly drawn congressional districts.

Mr. Kiley showed up to work in protest against Speaker Mike Johnson’s decision to send the House home indefinitely as the government shutdown drags on.

A new poll from The Washington Post found that more Americans blame the shutdown on Trump and congressional Republicans than on Democrats.

“The Daily” sat down with Mr. Kiley for a conversation about his one-man campaign to try to fix what he believes his party is getting wrong in this moment.

Guest: Representative Kevin Kiley, Republican of California.

Background reading: 

The lonely House Republican still coming to work during the shutdown.

Photo: Haiyun Jiang/The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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The House Republican Who Says His Party Is Mishandling the Shutdown

Earlier this month, after Israel and Hamas reached a cease-fire agreement, the Israeli military said it would withdraw from parts of Gaza — allowing some Palestinians displaced to the south to try to return home to the north.

Rachelle Bonja, a producer of “The Daily,” ​recently spoke by phone with three Gazans​ who were making or contemplating the journey home. ​One of them, Saher ​Alghorra​, is a photojournalist ​who often works with The Times; another is Nidal Kuhail​, ​a former restaurant worker ​whom The Times has spoken to over the course of the war.

The third is Hussein Khaled Auda​, a former bodybuilder who ran a small gym in Jabalia. Mr. Auda’s story is about his family. His four young children were killed in airstrikes during the war, and his wife was seriously injured. He has been traveling back home in large part to find and bury the remains of two of his children, who had been in the rubble of his house after one of the airstrikes. We interviewed his wife, Rawa, and other relatives, and reviewed death certificates and video footage to help understand what happened to his family.

In our reporting, The Times also learned that a cousin of Mr. Auda’s was a senior leader of Hamas in Gaza who was killed during the war last year. The Times asked Mr. Auda if he himself had any ties to Hamas. He said he was not a member of Hamas and not political, and had dozens of cousins. He said he had seen the one affiliated with Hamas just a couple of times in his life.

Like other news organizations, The Times has not yet been able to send its own staff journalists into Gaza unescorted. This episode, like many other Times pieces for more than two years, seeks to help our audience understand the experiences of Gazans during a devastating war.

Guest: 

Rachelle Bonja • , a New York Times audio producer for “The Daily.”
Saher Alghorra • , a photojournalist for The New York Times.
Nidal Kuhail​ • , a former restaurant worker whom The Times has spoken to over the course of the war.
Hussein Khaled Auda • , a former bodybuilder who ran a small gym in Jabalia.
Mohammed Abu Namous, • a journalist in Gaza.

Background reading: 

 • “Everything Is Gone”: 
Gazans return home • to find devastation and little hope.
 • Who were the 2,000 
Palestinians freed by Israel • ?

Photo: Saher Alghorra for The New York Times

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

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The Long Road Home for Gazans

“My life has gone rosy, again,” Alice Munro told a friend in a buoyant letter of March 1975. For Munro, who was then emerging as one of her generation’s leading writers, the previous few years had been blighted by heartbreak and upheaval: a painful separation from her husband of two decades; a retreat from British Columbia back to her native Ontario; a series of brief but bruising love affairs, in which, it seems, Munro could never quite make out the writing on the wall. “This time it’s real,” she wrote, speaking of a new romantic partner, Gerald Fremlin, the emphasis acknowledging that her friend had heard these words before. “He’s 50, free, a good man if I ever saw one, tough and gentle like in the old tire ads, and this is the big thing — grown-up.”

The judgment would prove premature. In July 2024, two months after Munro’s death at age 92, Andrea Skinner, the youngest of her three daughters, revealed in an essay in The Toronto Star that Fremlin had sexually abused her.

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The Sunday Read: ‘What Alice Munro Knew’

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