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The Verge

The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours.

The Vergecast

Google is on a bit of a heater when it comes to gadgets. The Pixel 10 lineup is one of the best Android phone options; the Pixel Watch 4 is suddenly a winner; the Pixel Buds are an excellent accessory; even the Pixel Fold got some welcome upgrades this year! With the help of The Verge’s Victoria Song and Allison Johnson, we do the impossible: we rank all six of Google’s Pixel gadgets, from worst to best. Are headphones better than smartphones? Can you really compare a tablet to a smartwatch? Who knows, but we try. After that, Allison and David answer a question from the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) about whether the dumbphone movement is a real one.

Further reading:

 Google Pixel 10 Pro Fold review: finally, a more durable foldable

 Google Pixel Buds 2A review: the right kind of compromise

 The Google Pixel Watch 4 is the Android watch to beat

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Google's gadgets, ranked

Back when text messages cost 10 cents each, BlackBerry came up with a better way: BlackBerry Messenger, commonly known as BBM. It was the first new idea about messaging in a long time, and it was a huge hit… for a while. Nilay Patel and Joanna Stern join David Pierce to talk about a messaging service that was years ahead of WhatsApp and iMessage, but ultimately fizzled.

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Version History: BlackBerry Messenger

Say this for OpenAI: it's very good at raising money, and it's very good at getting attention. David and Jake are joined by The Verge's Hayden Field to talk about OpenAI's demo day, the company's app store plans, why it's trying to build every possible ChatGPT feature all at the same time, and more. After that, the hosts talk about the ongoing popularity of the Sora app, and whether OpenAI has truly built a new kind of social network. Then Hayden has to leave, so David and Jake take on the lightning round to discuss Intel chips, Alex Cooper's Google deal, Starry internet, and more.

Further reading:

 OpenAI will let developers build apps that work inside ChatGPT

 ChatGPT apps are live: Here are the first ones you can try

 
OpenAI: all the news about the makers of ChatGPT

 
OpenAI’s head of ChatGPT said it will significantly evolve in the next six months. 

 OpenAI will eventually allow “mature” ChatGPT apps. 

 
OpenAI and Jony Ive’s secret device won’t be ‘your weird AI girlfriend’

 AMD teams up with OpenAI to challenge Nvidia’s AI chip dominance

 Sam Altman says there are no current plans for ads within ChatGPT Pulse — but he’s not ruling it out

 A busy week for OpenAI’s social video machine.

 
Sora now lets users limit how their AI double is used

 
OpenAI teases licensed fictional characters on Sora

 
OpenAI wasn’t expecting Sora’s copyright drama

 
Developers can bring Sora 2’s AI video generation into their own apps. 

 Katie Notopolous on Threads

 Sora’s Slop Hits Different

 
A new iPhone setting will stop CarPlay from stealing your AirPods’ audio 

 
Here is Panther Lake, Intel’s 2026 laptop chip with next-gen graphics\

 Facebook is turning into TikTok 

 
Alex Cooper is making ads for Google / Pixel

 
Here’s how Apple is locking down iPhones to comply with Texas’ age verification law

 Verizon buys the not-quite-5G wireless ISP Starry to expand wireless broadband 

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Maybe it's real, maybe it's Sora

Oh, you thought AI was just in your browser and on your phone? Well, the AI is coming from inside the house. The Verge's Jen Pattison Tuohy and Google's Anish Kattukaran both join the show to discuss last week's Google smart home news, including the company's big bet on the Gemini assistant. Anish explains why Google cares about the smart home in the first place, why things haven't exactly gone great so far, and why he's so convinced the new generation of AI can make it work. After that, The Verge's Vee Song joins the show to talk about Peloton's newest gear, including a $6,695 treadmill and a huge new push into personalized AI training features. Vee then sticks around to help David answer a question from the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) about how many smartwatches is too many smartwatches. Spoiler alert: the answer is two. But it's not quite as simple as that.

Further reading:

 Peloton increases fees and introduces new hardware including a $6,695 treadmill

 Peloton appoints Apple Fitness Plus cofounder as new CEO

 Peloton is a media company now, with media company problems

 Google dismantled Nest — can Gemini save what’s left?

 Hey Google, meet Gemini: the new voice of your smart home

 The new Google Home Speaker is built for Gemini

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Google's extreme smart home makeover

In 2015, self-balancing scooters (which quickly became known as hoverboards) exploded in popularity, and then began literally exploding. Andrew Hawkins and Sean O’Kane join David Pierce to explore the multiple conflicting origin stories behind the hugely popular rideable, the many knockoffs, and why a device that doesn't actually hover ended up being called "hoverboard."

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Version History: Hoverboards

This week, everything is a HomePod. And has ads. The Verge’s Jen Pattison-Tuohy joins the show to talk about all of Amazon’s new hardware, the current state of Alexa Plus, and whether the new Kindle Scribe is the one we’ve been waiting for. Then, The Verge’s Emma Roth tells Jen and David about her experience with Telly, the TV that ships to your house for free in exchange for showing you ads all the time. Telly may not be for everyone. Finally, in the lightning round, the gang talks about a handy new Spotify feature, Emma’s first Waymo ride, and the glory that is Chunk.

Further reading:

 
Amazon’s 2025 hardware event: the 8 biggest announcements

 Here’s where to preorder all of Amazon’s new Alexa devices and when they arrive

 
Amazon finally did the damn hardware right

 
Amazon’s new Echo Dot Max smart speaker bumps up the bass

 
Alexa Plus is smarter — but it’s not yet smart enough

 Alexa Plus on the TV is made to save you from your phone 

 
Alexa Plus is smarter — but it’s not yet smart enough

 Alexa Plus on the TV is made to save you from your phone 

 
Amazon sticks two cameras together for the 180-degree Blink Arc

 
The new Google Home Speaker is built for Gemini

 
Hey Google, meet Gemini: the new voice of your smart home | The Verge

 
I spent three months with Telly, the free TV that’s always showing ads

 OpenAI made a TikTok for deepfakes, and it’s getting hard to tell what’s real

 
Spotify now lets you exclude specific songs from your algorithm

 
All hail the new Fat Bear Champion

 Ring launches upgraded cameras with ‘Retinal Vision’ 4K recording

 
Microsoft is giving Copilot AI faces you can chat with

 Waymo adds YouTube Music

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The real price of a free TV

Sure, you could drive to the grocery store and to school. But wouldn’t you rather grab a few hundred of your friends and bike-bus everywhere? The Verge’s Andy Hawkins joins the show to tell us all about his adventures with electric cargo bikes, and why he thinks they’re the ride of the future. After that, Lauren Feiner calls in from just outside a courthouse in Virginia, where she’s watching the remedies trial in Google’s adtech monopoly case. Google already lost the case; what happens next is still anyone’s guess. Finally, David answers a question from the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) about how to feel about summarizing YouTube videos with AI. The short version: you should feel a lot of things.

Further reading:

 
Why your next car should be an electric cargo bike

 
Electric cargo bikes are rewiring cities

 
Can Google be trusted without a break up?

 
US v. Google redux: all the news from the ad tech trial

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My other car is a cargo bike

After more than five years of backing and forthing, secret meetings and loud screeds, it appears the fate of TikTok in the US has finally been decided. Maybe. There are still a lot of unknowns, but we're pretty sure we know the bones of the deal — and we know which of President Trump's allies stand to benefit the most. Before we get to all that, though, David and Jake run through some big news in future gadgets, including the long-awaited-and-maybe-happening combination of Android and ChromeOS and the possibilities for a touchscreen MacBook. Then, The Verge's Liz Lopatto joins to talk TikTok. And Trump. Then, in the lightning round, the three hosts talk through Jimmy Kimmel's return, Nvidia's money problems, a surprising AmEx perk, and much more.

Further reading:

 Google’s Android for PC: ‘I’ve seen it, it is incredible’ 

 Our biggest questions about ChromeOS and Android merging

 The foldable iPhone might look like two iPhone Airs stuck together 

 The touchscreen MacBook rumors are never ending 

 OpenAI might also be developing AI glasses, a voice recorder, and a pin 

 Trump claims the US is about to get a tremendous fee for taking TikTok out of China

 Trump signs executive order approving TikTok deal

 Some details of the TikTok deal have been worked out.

 What Trump Wants from a TikTok Deal with China

 American Investors Will License and Oversee TikTok’s U.S. Version, White House Says

 TikTok Deal Could Make Oracle Founder Larry Ellison a New Kind of Media Mogul

 Anker’s party speaker projector hits Kickstarter with a sizable discount. 

 Montblanc is getting into the digital notepad game 

 Apple’s iPhone 17 Pro can be easily scratched 

 It costs $895 per year to get American Express’ premium app theme

 Nvidia is partnering up with OpenAI to offer compute and cash 

 Kimmel returns to television to mock FCC Chair Brendan Carr 

 Sinclair won’t air Kimmel. 

 Trump on Truth Social

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Tick Tock, TikTok

In all the tech news and world news last week, YouTube's Made On event got a little lost. So we circled back: The Verge's Mia Sato explains why YouTube is suddenly all-in on livestreaming, why it seems to be rapidly turning into a shopping mall, and whether all these AI features will improve YouTube or destroy it. After that, it's time for a second round of David's Summer Takes, in which he subjects The Verge's Jake Kastrenakes and Hayden Field to his thoughts on Threads, podcasts, and social media. Finally, Hayden sticks around to answer a question on the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) about the words we use when we talk AI.

Further reading:

 YouTube makes it easier and more lucrative to go live

 YouTube is inching closer to becoming a shopping channel

 YouTube is going all in on AI

 New YouTube AI tools help creators give viewers what they want

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YouTube wants you to go live

There’s a lot of gadget news this week! But we begin the show in an unprecedented way: with a bit of Brendan Carr is a Dummy, America’s favorite podcast within a podcast. Nilay pops on the show to discuss what happened to Jimmy Kimmel, why the FCC’s assault on speech is so dangerous, and why a couple of broadcast TV companies matter so much to the story. After that, Jake Kastrenakes and Richard Lawler join to talk about all of Meta’s new smart glasses, including the company’s first pair with a built-in display. Finally, in the lightning round, we talk about Reddit’s new AI deal with Google, Nvidia’s new chip deal with Intel, and Samsung’s terrible plan to put ads on your fridge.

Further reading:

 Here’s the Jimmy Kimmel clip that got him pulled off the air 

 Jimmy Kimmel Live pulled after FCC threat over Charlie Kirk joke 

 Republicans are honoring Charlie Kirk’s memory by declaring war on the First Amendment 

 Charlie Kirk’s death got complicated by “extremely online” culture 

 The right wing is creating a society of snitches

 Meta Ray-Ban Display hands-on: the best smart glasses I’ve ever tried 

 Oakley Meta Vanguard hands-on: what athletes actually want

 Meta’s new Ray-Ban smart glasses have twice the battery life

 Conversation focus is the first new feature on deck.

 I sat down with Mark Zuckerberg to try Meta’s impressive new Ray-Ban Display glasses

 Meta is opening up its smart glasses to developers | The Verge

 Snap OS 2.0 is a small step towards AR glasses you might actually wear

 Android’s next flagship processor is the ‘Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5’ 

 Nothing wants you to talk to your earbuds’ charging case 

 Nvidia invests $5 billion into Intel to jointly develop PC and data center chips 

 The US and China might finally have a TikTok deal 

 U.S. Investors, Trump Close In on TikTok Deal With China

 Samsung brings ads to US refrigerators

 Reddit wants a better AI deal with Google: users in exchange for content

 YouTube is inching closer to becoming a shopping channel 

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Meta's quest to own your face

For the second episode in our two-part 2025 preview, Nilay and David are once again joined by Wall Street Journal columnist (and friend of The Verge) Joanna Stern to talk about what will, and won't, happen in tech next year. This time, David joins us after a quick jaunt to the end of next year, and relays a bunch of things that happened in tech in 2025. But some of them are lies. Joanna and Nilay have to decide which things really will happen next year, and which won't. As always, the hosts get points for good guesses and negative points for bad ones. And once we're all in late 2025, we'll declare a winner.
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Tech in 2025: who's in and who's out

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