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Jason Calacanis

Jason Calacanis covers startups, tech, markets, media, and all the hottest topics in business and technology. He also interviews the world’s greatest founders, operators, investors, and innovators.

This Week in Startups

Today’s show:

*Working from 9 am to 9 pm, 6 days a week, might seem like TOO INTENSE a commitment for some, but Jason argues that elite performance — and the mega-compensation that goes along with it — sometimes requires personal sacrifice. While 72-hour weeks might lead to burnout for some, it really comes down to individual choice.

PLUS Jason and Alex deep dive the NBA gambling scandal and the sketchy reality behind high-stakes home games of poker. PLUS Presh Kumar takes us behind the scenes, to see how AI apps helped him develop and workshop the video for his new wellness startup, Tempo, and what’s with Anthropic buying chips from their AI rivals, Google? It’s a can’t miss This Week in Startups.

Timestamps:

(00:06:49) Jason and Alex are poker fans… what do they think about this insane NBA gambling scandal?

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(00:25:09) Is working “9-9-6” a reasonable goal? A guarantee of success? Why Jason compares it to being an Olympian.

(30:00) Every.io - Running a startup is hard enough. Every takes care of incorporation, banking, payroll, benefits, accounting, taxes and more so that you focus on building, not back-office admin. Visit every.io.

(00:38:00) Our old buddy Presh walks us through the process of making his Tempo launch video

(00:42:28) Jason and Alex check out some of Ridley Scott’s famous storyboards

(00:48:03) Anthropic is buying TPUs from Google… Are these companies in LIKE with each other?

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Great TWIST interviews: Will Guidara, Eoghan McCabe, Steve Huffman, Brian Chesky, Bob Moesta, Aaron Levie, Sophia Amoruso, Reid Hoffman, Frank Slootman, Billy McFarland

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If you’re not working 9-9-6, are you working hard enough? | E2198

Today’s show:

*Amazon’s dropping a LOT of employees for AI and robots… are Jason’s darkest predictions coming true?

Legendary investor Elad Gil joins Jason and Alex for the full show today! Together, they’re digging into the Amazon news, looking back at Jason’s predictions from just last month, and theorizing about just how many people will lose their jobs to computers, and what we’re going to do about it. (Is it possible the US hasn’t been massively hit by job displacement so far because those gigs already moved overseas?)

PLUS… Anthropic’s Dario Amodei responds to criticisms from JCal’s bestie David Sacks, Sesame emerges from stealth to work on AI wearables, and where will people in the future interact with their favorite apps? A headset? Phones? Somewhere else? The great debate continues.

Timestamps:

(00:04:04) Our guest is iconic angel investor Elad Gil! What’s he working on…

(00:04:54) Alexandria AI translates public domain books into all commonly spoken languages… Do people actually prefer AI translations?

(00:09:16) Why compute tends to centralize over time… (It’s because of economies of scale!)

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(00:12:49) So are we building TOO MANY datacenters? Will AI apps eventually run on your phone anyway?

(00:16:39) Jason says “The Age of Efficiency is upon us.”

(00:19:24) When companies trade inference for market share

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(00:21:57) Why one of the main challenges of adopting AI is buy-in and convincing teams to use it.

(00:25:47) Elad’s robotics questions: (1) What % of winners will be incumbents?

(00:27:50) Jason called the Amazon news last month and we have the receipts!

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(00:45:33) Jason says Adobe and Figma should abandon the UK entirely.

(00:45:55) Time for a Polymarket: The sharps say 80% chance Tesla beats their quarterly earnings

(00:51:02) What is Sesame? They just emerged from stealth, they raised $250M, and they’re working on AI wearables.

(00:53:21) Jason has concerns about AI wearables that are always recording… Does Elad share these concerns?

(01:03:17) The crypto industry is now one of the largest purchasers of US government debt… what does that mean? Who owns who?

(01:08:53) Anthropic responded to JCal’s Bestie David Sacks… Is Dario Amodei a doomer? Fearmongering?

(01:19:12) Why Jason thinks AI companies need to self-regulate

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Amazon’s “Age of Efficiency,” LLM distribution, AI wearable worries, and more with Elad Gil | E2197

Are AI tools in the classroom just time-savers, or can they have genuine educational value?In a must-watch TWiST 500 interview, Alex chats with Magic School founder (and former principal) Adeel Khan about how AI tools can make teachers more effective, and keep students inspired, without just doing all the work for them. He talks about turning an AI chatbot into a true assistant teacher, that keeps the lessons balanced yet challenging, and particularly empowers classroom novices and non-professionals.THEN… is 6 years too long for employees to wait to vest? Is this just another founder trying to reinvent EVERYTHING, just because they can’t resist? Ramp CEO Eric Glyman joins Jason and Alex to answer pressing founder questions from viewersPLUS there’s a new entrant in our Gamma Pitch Deck competition, and it’s so compelling, Jason can’t wait to invest! Kris Canete of On the Fly Energy tells us about America’s fragile power grid and his elegant solution: flywheel energy storage!Timestamps:0:00 - Welcome to TWiST!02:59 - Former principal Adeel Khan of TWiST 500's Magic School AI tells us why “teachers are magic”09:41 - Goldbelly ships America’s most delicious, iconic foods nationwide! Get 20% off your first order by going to Goldbelly.com and using the promo code TWiST at checkout.10:50 - How AI tools can particularly help out classroom novices and non-pros who are just getting started20:57 - Check out the online payroll and benefits experts with software built specifically for small business and startups. Try Gusto today and get three months FREE at Gusto.com/twist.26:58 - How Magic School stays ahead of shifting standards across different states and regions32:57 - Zite is the fastest way to build *business software* with AI. Build apps, forms, websites and portals that connect to the tools you already use. Go to *zite.com/twist* to get started.33:30 - Why the best feedback Adeel ever got came from a teenager36:30 - Making AI a true assistant teacher, that keeps lessons balanced yet challenging38:38 - Is a 6-year vesting schedule too aggressive? Eric Glyman responds.41:00 - When even ambitious founders should sometimes just accept a standard deal.57:33 - What IS flywheel energy storage?01:00:00 - Why Jason loves the Fly Energy Gamma pitch and wants to invest right now.01:34:13 - Gamma Outro*Subscribe to the TWiST500 newsletter: [https://ticker.thisweekinstartups.com](https://ticker.thisweekinstartups.com/)Check out the TWIST500: [https://www.twist500.com](https://twist500.com)Subscribe to This Week in Startups on Apple: https://rb.gy/v19fcp*Follow Lon:X: https://x.com/lons*Follow Alex:X: https://x.com/alexLinkedIn: [⁠ / alexwilhelm ]( / alexwilhelm )*Follow Jason:X: / jason LinkedIn: [ / jasoncalacanis ]( / jasoncalacanis )Great TWIST interviews: [Will Guidara,]( • Lessons in Unreasonable Hospitality with W... ) [Eoghan McCabe]( • Great Builders & Success First with Interc... ), [Steve Huffman](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast..., [Brian Chesky](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast..., [Bob Moesta,]( • Decoding Customer Insights, Trust, and the... ) [Aaron Levie](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast..., [Sophia Amoruso](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast..., [Reid Hoffman](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast..., [Frank Slootman](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast..., [Billy McFarland](https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast...)*Check out Jason’s suite of newsletters: https://substack.com/@calacanis*Follow TWiST:Twitter: / twistartups YouTube: / thisweekin Instagram: [ / thisweekinstartups ]( / thisweekinstartups )TikTok: / thisweekinstartups Substack: [https://twistartups.substack.com](

Magic School uses AI to help kids learn, not cheat | E2196

Today’s show: *Is the AI bubble going to POP? And if so, how much of our economy is it going to take down with it?On a new TWiST, Jason, Alex, and Lon debate the size and scale of the AI bubble, whether poppage is imminent, and just who we can blame for the last few economic crises. (HINT: Not the tech industry!)PLUS why Jason STILL thinks the current AI cycle will be the biggest in tech history, how this morning’s AWS mega-failure might impact the company’s earnings, the spread of AI fakes in the wake of this weekend’s No Kings march, why LLMs may soon put your broker out of business, and much much more.**Timestamps:** (00:02:26) Is AI a BUBBLE? And if so, how BIG?(00:05:12) Are all the major bubbles and corrections always Wall Street’s fault?(00:08:39) Why Jason thinks this AI will be the biggest cycle in the history of technology(10:00) LinkedIn Ads: Thanks to our partner @LinkedInMktg. Launch your first campaign and get $250 FREE when you spend at least $250. Go to [http://LinkedIn.com/ThisWeekinStartups](https://www.linkedin.com/thisweekinstartups) to claim your credit.(20:00) Thank you to our partner @trustvanta! TWiST listeners automate your SOC2 and get $1,000 off at http://www.vanta.com/twist(00:23:01) Will this morning’s AWS failure impact Amazon’s earnings?(30:00) Thanks to our partner @Openphone! Streamline and scale your customer communications with Quo. Get started free, plus get 20% off your first 6 months, at [http://quo.com/TWiST](http://quo.com/TWiSThttp://quo.com/perks/twist)(00:32:49) People couldn’t spot AI fakes from this weekend’s protests… are we cooked?(00:49:54) Jeremy Strong shows off his Mark Zuckerberg impression… and Jason is impressed

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@Openphone! Streamline and scale your customer communications with Quo. Get started free, plus get 20% off your first 6 months, at [http://quo.com/TWiST](http://quo.com/TWiSThttp://quo.com/perks/twist)*Check out Jason’s suite of newsletters: https://substack.com/@calacanis*Follow TWiST:Twitter: https://twitter.com/TWiStartupsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/thisweekinInstagram: [https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartups](https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartups/)TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thisweekinstartupsSubstack: [https://twistartups.substack.com](https://twistartups.substack.com/)*Subscribe to the Founder University Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@founderuniversity1916All rights for the video shared and linked below belong to the original copyright holder, and we are using the footage under the principle of fair use.Listen here:Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-week-in-startups-audio/id315114957Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ULQ0ewYf5zmsDgBchlkr9Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes315114957/this-week-in-startups-audioMore from us:Twitter: https://twitter.com/twistartupsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisweekinstartupsOfficial site: https://thisweekinstartups.comSubscribe to our YouTube to watch all full episodes:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkkhmBWfS7pILYIk0izkc3A?sub_confirmation=1Subscribe to TWiST Clips for all the best moments:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS7tJlcUA6PzVHEMo-X7ddg?sub_confirmation=1#startups #entrepreneurship #investing #angelinvesting #tech #news #business

Just how frothy is the AI Bubble anyway? | E2195

Deel’s growth overshadows SpyGate, Claude learned new skills, and the great “momentum is moat” debate | EXXX

Today’s show:

*Deel’s growing fast enough that investors are overlooking the espionage allegations and jumping on board anyway. (LAUNCH now owns a lil taste of Deel, so Jason is on board!)

PLUS is the Mag 7 about to become the Mag 70… Why legendary investor Roelof Botha thinks VC is not an asset class… How startups can use capital as a weapon… AND Anthropic gave Claude more skills, which they hope will help pay their bills.

Timestamps:

(00:01:34) Jason’s excited for ski season and checking his favorite powder app, OpenSnow

(00:04:02) Why Jason’s done with meetings; he’s pulling a Doug Leone!

(00:06:27) Jason can tell the market’s heating up because people are starting to lose their minds.

(00:09:31) How much will global AI tools one day be worth? Alex is crunching the numbers.

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(00:15:22) PREDICTION: The Mag7 is about to become the Mag70

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(00:25:36) Deel’s big raise… Why major growth overshadows spying allegations

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(00:33:31) Why Roelof Botha says VC is a “return-free risk,” and not an “asset class.”

(00:40:49) The two reasons why VC firms end

(00:44:18) How startups can use capital as a weapon

(00:57:52) Anthropic gave Claude Skills to pay the bills

(01:00:51) Jason’s vision for what Grammarly could become

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Great TWIST interviews: Will Guidara, Eoghan McCabe, Steve Huffman, Brian Chesky, Bob Moesta, Aaron Levie, Sophia Amoruso, Reid Hoffman, Frank Slootman, Billy McFarland

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Deel’s growth overshadows SpyGate, Claude learned new skills, and the great “momentum is moat” debate | E2194

Today’s show:

*On a very special TWiST, Jason’s joined by “one of the greatest investors in in the history of VC,” Steve Jurvetson of Future Ventures.

Together, they look back at some of Steve’s earliest investments and learnings, the promise and ultimate failure of nanotech, breaking down the AI hype cycle, the primacy of neural networks, the return of nuclear power, why “AI safety” might be illusory, and much more.

It’s a packed show full of deep insights from one of the greatest minds in technology today. Do not miss this ep!

Timestamps:

(00:00)Jason’s 1-on-1 today with “one of the greatest investors in the history of VC,” Steve Jurvetson

(00:03:04) The early origins of Steve’s fascination with “deep tech”

(00:08:03) Jason and Steve recall playing around with the TRS-80 (“The Trash-80”)

(10:00) Perspective AI: Real insights, straight from your customers, and your first two months are on us. Just go to getperspective.ai/twist.

(00:15:13) Keeping your portfolio diverse when so many companies look the same

(20:00) .TECH: Say it without saying it. Head to get.tech/twist or your favorite registrar to get a clean, sharp .tech domain today.

(00:20:49) The promise of nanotech and why it fell apart

(00:25:46) Breaking down the “hype” cycle and how trends get co-opted

(00:26:27) Why Moore’s Law and the Power Law are so important for investors

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(00:33:36) Understanding the rise of GPUs and how they resemble tiny brains

(00:51:32) Revisiting a classic clip of Steve talking about robots

(00:54:04) How Jason and Steve got their hands on some of the earliest Tesla Roadsters

(01:00:09) Flashback Clip: Elon predicts 2025 in 2015… how’d he do?

(01:02:46) Why did the world turn SO strongly against nuclear energy?

(01:16:06) Can we make AI “safe” in the age of GPT Psychosis? Is it too inscrutable?

(01:21:54) Why Steve thinks technology will ultimately doom autocratic regimes.

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Legendary VC Steve Jurvetson looks ahead at neutral networks, Tesla, nuclear power, and more | E2193

Today’s show:

*Eric Glyman of Ramp joins us to share the fintech unicorn’s growth secrets AND their Lab full of research data.

On TWiST, Jason and Alex chat with Eric about Ramp’s counter-intuitive mission — helping startups spend LESS money — PLUS they take a deep dive into the company’s treasure trove of startup trend data. Why is there a huge spike in unemployed recent college trends? Is “static team size” as a big a story as Jason and Alex think? What does it actually take to get companies to adopt AI Agents? The answers all might be in these Ramp numbers.

PLUS Eric joins us for some hot Founder Q’s, and what’s going on with all this Y Combinator drama? We’re sifting through the angriest tweets for the inside scoop.

FINALLY, Jason recommends some of his favorite startup accelerators of the moment (aside from his own) including…

PearXArc from SequoiaAntlerSpeedrun from a16z
Timestamps:

(00:02:18) The 72-hour rule strikes again: Trump’s China’s tariff reversal

(00:03:10) Why crypto got hit even HARDER than the stock market post-Trump announcement

(00:07:32) Market manipulation “at a scale we’ve never seen before…”; what does this mean for everyday investors?

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(00:12:55) Ramp CEO Eric Glyman swings by to update us on his fintech unicorn’s growth and their “Lab” for research data

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(00:21:40) Is “static team size” a real trend? What the Ramp data shows…

(00:26:25) Ramp’s “counter-intuitive” mission: to help companies spend LESS money, not more.

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(00:38:07) WHY the huge spike in unemployed recent college grads? Especially among the guys?

(00:49:16) What it actually takes to get companies to adopt AI agents into their processes

(00:52:25) Why Jason thinks Eric is a top-tier TWiST guest. We’re going through the metrics…

(00:54:05) There’s YC drama on social media now… we’re spilling the tea.

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Great TWIST interviews: Will Guidara, Eoghan McCabe, Steve Huffman, Brian Chesky, Bob Moesta, Aaron Levie, Sophia Amoruso, Reid Hoffman, Frank Slootman, Billy McFarland

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What Ramp’s data tells us about AI, unemployment and more with CEO Eric Glyman | E2192

Figure’s 03 Chore-bot, Jake Paul Sora takeover, ChatGPT app integrations, and more | E2191

Today’s show:

Figure’s butler-bot could be cleaning up after you soon than you think!

On a Friday TWiST, Jason and Lon are checking out the Figure 03 demo reel, checking out the humanoid robot that could soon be hanging out in your house, doing your chores.

Lon’s a bit skeptical that full-sized Westworld drones will soon be on everyone’s home but the technology is obviously moving forward at a rapid clip and cutting-edge AI models are making the bots smarter than ever.

PLUS… what will be the impact of Presidents Trump and Xi’s new fight over rare earth minerals? Why are Jake Paul and Mark Cuban starring in SO MANY Sora clips? How well do these ChatGPT app integrations work, and why are they going to free users first? And much much more, on a can’t-miss new TWiST

Timestamps:

(0:00) Figure’s humanoid and its new capabilities

(2:15) Show start: Jason welcomes co-host Lon Harris

(6:24) The global dependency on China for rare earth minerals

(9:48) .TECH: Say it without saying it. Head to get.tech/twist or your favorite registrar to get a clean, sharp .tech domain today.

(10:54) Sora, AI likeness & deepfakes

(17:05) DEMO: Producer Oliver showcases ChatGPT's new integrations!

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(27:54) The future of AI: Will there be thousands of app integrations?

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(33:44) Discussing Reflection AI: A new American open-source model

(40:35) Reddit Rapid Response: Why young professionals should work in the office

(47:50) How AI is eliminating entry-level jobs & the need for executive training

(54:15) Jason's pitch to shut down the USPS and turn post offices into nursery schools

(58:25) Jason shares his personal journey with GLP-1s & Ro.co

(1:01:05) The Figure One robot: New video and future potential

(1:04:20) How LLMs are the key to unlocking humanoid robot capabilities

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Figure’s 03 Chore-bot, Jake Paul Sora takeover, ChatGPT app integrations, and more | E2191

Today’s show:

*Zach Dell of Base Power joins us at the top of today’s show to talk about building batteries in Austin, that $1 billion investment, and why an “all of the above” energy strategy is the only way forward.

PLUS Jason and Alex’s thoughts on that Tesla non-upside down car announcement, growing resentments toward AI datacenters, Chinese robots actually going on sale, Tim Cook’s potential Apple exit, xAI’s Nvidia agreement and MUCH MORE.

Timestamps:

(00:02:10) A MAJOR GUEST! Zach Dell of Base Power joins us from the top of the show.

(00:03:31) The basics of Base Power’s business model: the best electron is the cheapest electron

(00:08:38) Zach teases Base’s new, time-saving approach to battery installation

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(00:18:12) How Base’s grid can help drive down overall energy prices

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(00:36:20) Tesla did not announce an upside fan car… Oh well…

(00:44:27) Buy your Chinese robot TODAY on Walmart dot com? Or not!

(00:48:12) Is Tim Apple EXITING Apple? Who’s next?

(00:59:22) ANOTHER mega-deal? Now xAI is circling a Nvidia investment…

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Battery Power for Texans with Zach Dell, plus Tim Apple is LEAVING?, Polymarket to the US, and a Tesla fan update | E2190

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Jason sits down with Wilson Sonsini partner Chris Paniewski for a special Startup Legal Basics on one of the thorniest questions in tech right now: how copyright law applies to AI training data.

Chris has worked on some of the biggest AI deals ever — including Scale AI’s $14B+ partnership with Meta and OpenAI’s $6.5B acquisition of Jony Ive’s design studio — and brings practical, on-the-ground insights from advising leading AI companies.

In this episode, Jason and Chris cover:

 • Why AI copyright law is unsettled and will take years to shake out
 • The difference between 
training data • and 
output • in legal terms
 • How “fair use” really works (and why it’s a defense, not a permission slip)
 • The risks of scraping vs. licensing, and why open source ≠ free use
 • How investors are diligencing AI startups around training data
 • Why startups must think differently once they’re funded vs. hacking in a dorm room

Whether you’re building an AI product, investing in one, or just trying to understand where the law is headed, this conversation breaks down the real legal risks every founder should know.

Timestamps:

(0:00) Jason introduces the Startup Legal Basics series & Chris Paniewski

(1:25) Why AI copyright law is unsettled

(3:40) Training data: scraping vs. licensing

(6:05) Open web ≠ open license; pitfalls around terms of service

(8:15) Investor diligence & risks around training data

(11:00) Open source & Creative Commons: common founder mistakes

(13:25) “Fair use” explained: the four-part test

(15:45) Why most disputes never make it to case law

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AI Copyright & Training Data w/ Chris Paniewski | Wilson Sonsini Startup Legal Basics

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