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Fredrik

Kodsnack in English

Fredrik talks to Teresa Wu about devops for frontend and AI.

Why does frontend feel so complex? Does it have to be?

We also discuss the value of open language models, smaller and more specific language models and their benefits.

Is “AI” even a useful label anymore? Teresa thinks we’ll split into more specific terms over time.

Recorded during Øredev 2024.

The episode is sponsored by Ellipsis - let us edit your podcast and make it sound just as good as Kodsnack! With more than ten years and 1200 episodes of experience, Ellipsis gets your podcast edited, chapterized, and described with all related links in a prompt and professional manner.

Thank you Cloudnet for sponsoring our VPS!

Comments, questions or tips? We a re @kodsnack, @tobiashieta, @oferlund and @bjoreman on Twitter, have a page on Facebook and can be emailed at info@kodsnack.se if you want to write longer. We read everything we receive.

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Links

Teresa
 • Teresas' Øredev 2024 talks: 
Devops for frontend • and 
Building amazing front-end project with Gemma: A state-of-the-art open model
Ellipsis • - sponsor of the week: we edit Kodsnack, and we can edit your podcast too!

Super-apps
Wechat
Support us on Ko-fi
Gemma

Titles

 • This was actually made to happen

 • The same fun and the same pain

 • The lucky ones

 • My own experience

 • I don’t have a word for it

 • A super-super-app

 • Explosion of complexity

 • A whole sea of new questions

 • They only do one thing

Kodsnack 662 - A super-super-app, with Teresa Wu

Fredrik talks to Taylor Troesh about packaging things, generating code, and database evolution.

Why is it so hard to package and build things? Is it a failure of ergonomics? Is there hope for a change?

We also discuss generating code using LLMs, and Taylor presents the workflow of using them to generate projects from scratch, starting over if more fundamental changes are needed.

After that, we dig into databases and SQL, and Taylor has many thoughts and opinions about how they can be used and might evolve.

Finally, we discuss other interesting projects, keeping track of ideas, what the OPTC is, and why should you cut down a palm tree?

Recorded during Øredev 2024.

The episode is sponsored by Ellipsis - let us edit your podcast and make it sound just as good as Kodsnack! With more than ten years and 1200 episodes of experience, Ellipsis gets your podcast edited, chapterized, and described with all related links in a prompt and professional manner.

Thank you Cloudnet for sponsoring our VPS!

Comments, questions or tips? We a re @kodsnack, @tobiashieta, @oferlund and @bjoreman on Twitter, have a page on Facebook and can be emailed at info@kodsnack.se if you want to write longer. We read everything we receive.

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Links

Taylor
Taylor’s keyboard-rich desk setup
 • Taylor’s Øredev 2024 talk: 
How to flatpack programs
The IKEA hacking community • (or one of them)

James Mickens
Redux
The flux architecture
Jquery
Toki pona
APL
Zig
SNOBOL
Actor model
Jq
Lisp
Scrapscript • - Taylor’s own language

HTMX
CRUD
Elm
Support us on Ko-fi
Cursor
Neovim
Avante • - a Cursor alternative for Neovim

Sam Altman
Sam Colt
Sam Morse
Postgresql
Connecting directly to the database • - Svante Richter’s talk

Supabase
SQL
 • Some of Taylor’s 
writings • 
about • 
SQL
PRQL • - Pipelined relational query language

FQL
Regex
Foundationdb
Ellipsis • - sponsor of the week: we edit Kodsnack, and we can edit your podcast too!

Offensive horticulture
A history of microwave ovens
Scrapsheets
Game of life
Trailer buses • 

 • Follow-up links, 
thanks to unvisual • :

Bruck • - “a type of bus or coach built to combine goods and passenger transport”

Skvader • - a Swedish bruck

 • 

The timeless way of software • - Taylor talks about Christopher Alexander, just like we did in episode 657!

Titles

 • Nothing besides IKEA

 • I did not besmirch the reputation

 • How strange we package things

 • I don’t think I have any advice

 • Failure of ergonomics

 • I do have hope

 • Drinking from the well

 • Brainless CRUD-stuff

 • (I have) No qualms with Elm

 • During the binges

 • Fifteen math professors

 • Tilting against palmtrees

 • OPTC

Kodsnack 658 - Failure of ergonomics, with Taylor Troesh

Fredrik talks to Maddy Montaquila about building user interfaces, and how .net has come a much longer way than people may think.

We talk about the various .net-related options for building user interfaces, mixing and matching MAUI stuff, Blazor stuff, and straight up web stuff. We discuss the way to go for Windows desktop apps among all these options.

The perception of .net - a challenge and something being actively worked on.

We also touch on actually useful AI, plus some unexpectedly fond memories of the touch bar.

Recorded during Øredev 2024.

The episode is sponsored by Ellipsis - let us edit your podcast and make it sound just as good as Kodsnack! With more than ten years and 1200 episodes of experience, Ellipsis gets your podcast edited, chapterized, and described with all related links in a prompt and professional manner.

Thank you Cloudnet for sponsoring our VPS!

Comments, questions or tips? We a re @kodsnack, @tobiashieta, @oferlund and @bjoreman on Twitter, have a page on Facebook and can be emailed at info@kodsnack.se if you want to write longer. We read everything we receive.

If you enjoy Kodsnack we would love a review in iTunes! You can also support the podcast by buying us a coffee (or two!) through Ko-fi.

Links

Maddy
 • Maddy’s Øredev 2024 talks: 
Hybrid web and desktop apps with .net MAUI and Blazor • and 
.net all the things - cloud, mobile, web, and more!
.net Aspire
Blazor hybrid
MAUI
.net conf 2024
.net 9
Syncfusion
Syncfusion controls for MAUI apps
Blazor render modes
Hybrid web view
Electron
Techbash
Xamarin
Flutter
React
Blackboard
Timeedit
Redis
Opentelemetry
Rabbitmq
Ollama
Support us on Ko-fi
Ellipsis • - sponsor of the week: we edit Kodsnack, and we can edit your podcast too!

Winforms
WPF
Winui
Touch bar
.net ahead of time compilation
Performance improvements in .net 9 • - the 300 pages blog post

Microsoft extensions AI
Amazon go stores
Spring boot
The minimal API structure

Titles

 • Two of my fun things

 • Trust me, I can ramble

 • I can ramble for eternity

 • The shimmer control

 • A bunch of wasted space in my brain

 • If you have a Javascript frontend

 • A lot with the hybrid stuff

 • Nice step up from Electron

 • MAUI doesn’t need me

 • People want native controls

 • Web is reach

 • If this guy’s on vacation

 • The only .net you ever have to see

 • Java with more

 • The polyglot world

 • A deeply native Windows experience

 • It was a nice volume slider

 • The .net perception

 • Three less indents

 • Purists of architecture

 • Blended experiences

Kodsnack 656 - People want native controls, with Maddy Montaquila

Fredrik talks to Matt Topol about Arrow and how the Arrow ecosystem is evolving. Arrow is an open source, columnar in-memory data format designed for efficient data processing and analytics - which means passing data between things without needing to transform it, and ideally even without needing to copy it.

What makes the ecosystem grow, and why is it very cool to have Arrow on the GPU? What is the connection between Arrow, machine learning, and Hugging face? Matt emphasizes the value of open standards, even as they work with or within more closed systems they can help open things up, and help bring about more modular solutions so that developers can focus on doing their core area really well.

This episode can be seen as a follow-up to episode 567, where Matt first joined to discuss everything Arrow.

Recorded during Øredev 2024.

Thank you Cloudnet for sponsoring our VPS!

Comments, questions or tips? We a re @kodsnack, @tobiashieta, @oferlund and @bjoreman on Twitter, have a page on Facebook and can be emailed at info@kodsnack.se if you want to write longer. We read everything we receive.

If you enjoy Kodsnack we would love a review in iTunes! You can also support the podcast by buying us a coffee (or two!) through Ko-fi.

Links

Matt
 • Matt’s Øredev 2023 talks: 
State of the Apache Arrow ecosystem: How your project can leverage Arrow! • and 
Leveraging Apache Arrow for ML workflows
Previous episodes with Matt
Øredev 2024
 • Matt’s Øredev 2024 talks - on 
Arrow ADBC • and 
Composable and modular data systems
ADBC • - Arrow database connectivity

Arrow
Snowflake
Snowflake drivers for ADBC
Bigquery
The Bigquery driver
Microsoft Fabric
Duckdb
Postgres
SQLite
Arrow flight • - RPC framework for services based on Arrow data

Arrow flight SQL
Microsoft Power BI
Velox
Apache datafusion
Query planning
Substrait • - query IR

Polaris
Libcudf
Nvidia RAPIDS
Pytorch
Tensorflow
Arrow device interface
DLPack • - in-memory tensor structure

Tensors
Nanoarrow
Voltron data • - where Matt used to work. He’s now at 
Columnar
Theseus • GPU compute engine

The composable data management system manifesto
Support us on Ko-fi!
Matt’s book • - In-memory analytics with Apache Arrow

Spark
Spark connect
RPC
UDFs
Photon
Datafusion
Apache Cassandra
ODBC
JDBC
R • - programming language for statistical computing

Hugging face
Ray
Stringview • - “German-style strings”

Scaling up with R and Arrow • - the book on using Arrow with R

Titles

 • It’s gotten a lot bigger

 • The bones of it are in the repo

 • (Powered by ADBC)

 • Individual compute components

 • Feed it substrate

 • Where the ecosystem is going

 • Arrow on the GPU

 • The data stays on the GPU

 • A forced copy

 • Leverage that device interface

 • Without forcing the copy

 • Shy of that last mile

 • Turtles all the way down

 • The guy who said yes

 • German-style strings

Kodsnack 654 - German-style strings, with Matt Topol

Fredrik talks to Grace Jansen about cloud tools, and bringing them to your local machine in a better way. Opentelemetry is a great tool, but it’s not the whole story for observability. Gathering the data is just the first step.

In the second half, we leave telemetry and talk about realizing you have things to share and sharing them with other people. Find out what makes you tick, and share experiences around that. Grace also shares some concrete presentation-building tips at the end.

Ask the question, and be more you!

Recorded during Øredev 2024.

Thank you Cloudnet for sponsoring our VPS!

Comments, questions or tips? We a re @kodsnack, @tobiashieta, @oferlund and @bjoreman on Twitter, have a page on Facebook and can be emailed at info@kodsnack.se if you want to write longer. We read everything we receive.

If you enjoy Kodsnack we would love a review in iTunes! You can also support the podcast by buying us a coffee (or two!) through Ko-fi.

Links

Grace
Øredev 2024
 • Grace’s Øredev 2024 presentations: 
Cloud-native dev tools: bringing the cloud back to earth • , and 
Becoming a cloud-native doctor
Opentelemetry
Distributed tracing
Microprofile • - open source specification for distributed tracing

Jakarta • - the artist previously known as Java EE

Reactive messaging
Openapi
Telemetry
Openliberty
Quarkus
Payara
Jboss
Prometheus
Grafana
Kibana
Fluid
Jaeger • - tracing platform

Torill Kornfeldt • talked about 
resurrecting mammoths • at Øredev 2015

Sven Jungmann - can we teach machines to smell • ?

Support us on Ko-fi!
Ants and AI models
Holly Cummins
Less waste, more joy, and a lot more green: How Quarkus makes Java better • - Holly’s Øredev 2024 presentation

Titles

 • After-lunch lull

 • So polyglot

 • Ready for microservices

 • (You need) Many minds

 • Now I have a pile

 • (Take) The best of nature

 • The path was being them

 • Something I bring to the table

 • Ask the question

 • A unique presentation

Kodsnack 652 - The best of nature, with Grace Jansen

Fredrik talks to Gitte Klitgaard about managers, diversity, and communication. We discuss how and why management has almost become a bad word. But we need management, and good management. What do you need out of managers when you have autonomous teams?

Conflict handling - we need small conflicts, and learn to handle them so they don’t become big conflicts.

Psychological safety and how to build it within and between your teams.

Building diverse teams, which kinds of managers we need, making good things visible, communicating and building psychological safety, diversity in thinking …

… and of course: a quick note on the evolution of LEGO instructions.

Recorded during Øredev 2024.

Thank you Cloudnet for sponsoring our VPS!

Comments, questions or tips? We a re @kodsnack, @tobiashieta, @oferlund and @bjoreman on Twitter, have a page on Facebook and can be emailed at info@kodsnack.se if you want to write longer. We read everything we receive.

If you enjoy Kodsnack we would love a review in iTunes! You can also support the podcast by buying us a coffee (or two!) through Ko-fi.

Links

Gitte
Øredev 2024
Autonomous teams need great managers • - Gitte’s presentation with 
Jakob Wolman
Jakob’s blog post • - What use is a manager?

 • Gallup´s report 
State of the global workplace • - people are feeling more disengaged

Agila Sverige • - 
We need more managers
Devlin 2024 • - conference in Linköping

Copenhagen dev festival
Reteaming
Support us on Ko-fi!
The power of the pen
Microsoft Access
Microsoft Publisher
Kent Beck

Titles

 • Autonomous teams need great managers

 • A lot of things we agreed on

 • The catalyst

 • The multiplier

 • Taking care of humans

 • A manager who cares about me

 • Invisible people

 • A lot of the leader part

 • Difficult skills

 • Not everyone communicates well

 • We need the small conflicts

 • A thousand conflicts a day

 • The Xerox effect

 • The power of the pen

 • Hints here and there

Kodsnack 648 - Difficult skills, with Gitte Klitgaard

Fredrik talks to Barry O’Reilly about software architecture.

Barry has spent a lot of time and energy connecting software architecture to actual code and development work, and finding good ways of actually training new generations of software architects.

Architecture is a level above programming, it is a different skill, and it needs to be properly taught so that more people can think and make active decisions about it. Oh, and architecture happens at a group level. You can’t really do it alone.

Barry’s quest led him to complexity science, a PhD to actually prove his ideas hold up, and two books. The idea that you have to understand what goes on in the code in order to do good architecture is more controversial than one might think.

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Comments, questions or tips? We a re @kodsnack, @tobiashieta, @oferlund and @bjoreman on Twitter, have a page on Facebook and can be emailed at info@kodsnack.se if you want to write longer. We read everything we receive.

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Links

Barry
Black tulip
Complexity science
IDE
Antifragile
Nassim Taleb
Nassim guesting Econtalk talking about antifragility • while the book was in progress

 • Barry’s papers: 

No More Snake Oil: Architecting Agility through Antifragility • (2019)

An introduction to residuality theory: Software design heuristics for complex systems • (2020)

The Machine in the Ghost: Autonomy, Hyperconnectivity, and Residual Causality • (2021)

The Philosophy of Residuality Theory • (2021)

Residuality Theory, random simulation, and attractor networks • (2022)

Residuality and Representation: Toward a Coherent Philosophy of Software Architecture • (2023)

 • 

Domain driven design Europe
Leanpub
Residues • - Barry’s first book

 • Barry’s NDC talks - on 
process • and on 
philosophy
Support us on Ko-fi
Our agile release train engineer stickers
The architect’s paradox • - Barry’s second book

Accelerate
Øredev
Kodsnack 346 • - Tomer Gabel about the golden age of tomfoolery

Dataföreningen
Dataföreningen kompetens

Titles

 • How we design and think about structure

 • Climbed the greasy pole

 • Keep close to the code

 • Remove themselves from the code as a status symbol

 • I would see a lot of grey

 • There’s a generation missing

 • A level of thinking above programming

 • When you look up from your IDE

 • We had to rescue architecture

 • When they say “architect”

 • Headed for that ivory tower

 • A self-titling profession

 • Comfortable in uncertainty

 • Multiple books, and a PhD

 • How does this thing break

 • Everything will always break

 • Patching those cracks

 • Do you have any proof of this?

 • The key to good software architecture is pessimism

 • The mincing of academic criticism

 • Typing furiously

 • Hope for the future

 • He’s from the real world!

Kodsnack 631 - Comfortable in uncertainty, with Barry O'Reilly

Fredrik talks to Jon Sterling about user interfaces old and new. Jon has created Aquaui - a Mac user interface library which is a small love letter to the Aqua user interface style for Mac OS X. Based on that, we discuss understandable and consistent user interfaces, how there seems to be little evolution and improvement, wish for brave new ideas, and a lot more.

Oh, and we also discuss living with old technology, like a seventh-generation Ipod. Plus liability laundering and the problems of building the whole house of out fire alarms.

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Comments, questions or tips? We a re @kodsnack, @tobiashieta, @oferlund and @bjoreman on Twitter, have a page on Facebook and can be emailed at info@kodsnack.se if you want to write longer. We read everything we receive.

If you enjoy Kodsnack we would love a review in iTunes! You can also support the podcast by buying us a coffee (or two!) through Ko-fi.

Links

Jon
Cambridge
Clare college
Aquaui • - Jon’s library

Aqua • - the user interface design language

Steve Jobs introducing Aqua
The dock
Windows XP
Windows 98
Iphone 4
IOS 6
IOS 7 • - the great flattening of everything

Apple’s old human interface guidelines
Accidental tech podcast
The purple button • for single-window mode in the Mac OS X beta - scroll down or search for “purple”

Stage manager
Lion
Infinite Mac • - the website where you can run old Mac operating systems

The spatial Finder - and why the modern Finder isn’t
Support Kodsnack on Ko-fi
Elementary OS • - and their 
interface design guide
GTK
A post about the original dock
Discussion about Mica - Apple internal design tool
Core animation
Webkit
Blink
WKWebview
Appkit
NSScrollview
NSScroller
12-inch Powerbook
Seventh-generation Ipod
Itunes
Intel Imac
Tiger
Tenfourfox • - browser for old versions of Mac OS X

Charles proxy
jonmstirling.com
Jon on Mastodon

Titles

 • A love letter

 • A very different era

 • Beautiful blue liquid

 • The great flattening of everything

 • Unbelievable user interface regression

 • I feel powerless today when I’m using my computer

 • They did mess up the photo app

 • Like a pill

 • A long-lasting Ibuprofen

 • That upper-right corner

 • Bigger than my wingspan

 • Beautiful, unsullied whitespace

 • During the decline of Mac OS

 • Time to be a bit bold

 • A passable gradient

 • Start from a point of inspiration

 • Too much for the old hardware

 • The Aqua fire alarm

 • SSL fire alarms

Kodsnack 626 - The great flattening of everything, with Jon Sterling

Fredrik talks to Dejan Milicic about software development - understanding, methods, and stories.

We start by talking about encapsulation of knowledge and the essential software in organizations. Almost every organization should - it can be argued - be developing software that solves their unique problems, and yet so many outsource so much of their knowledge encapsulation. Oh, and we can never completely encapsulate our knowledge in code either, so all the more reason to keep people who actually know what the code does and why around.

Dejan tells us about his way to Ravendb and a developer relations role - and how you can craft your own job, stepping suitably outside of your comfort zone along the way.

We also talk about shortening attention spans, daring to dig down a bit and find out about the context of things. Like the second sentence of some oft-repeated quote. Prohibit bad things, but help automate doing good things and avoid doing the bad things completely.

Dejan shares some database backstories - why would someone want to build one more database? Specifically, what lead to the creation of Ravendb? And the very strong opinions which have been built into it. Avoiding falling into marketing-driven development.

After that, we drift into talking about processes and how we work. Every organization is unique - which strongly speaks against adapting the “best practices” and methodologies of others. Or keeping things completely the same for too long. Innovation is also about doing what other people are not doing.

Why is concurrency still hard? The free lunch has been over for twenty years! Functional programming and immutability offer ways forward, why aren’t these concepts spreading even more and faster? We get right back to understanding more context when Dejan discusses how few of us seem to have understood, just for example, the L in SOLID. Dive deeper, read more, and you will find new things and come up with new ideas.

Finally, Dejan would like to see software development becoming just a little bit more mathematical. So that things can be established, verified and built on in a different way.

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Comments, questions or tips? We a re @kodsnack, @tobiashieta, @oferlund and @bjoreman on Twitter, have a page on Facebook and can be emailed at info@kodsnack.se if you want to write longer. We read everything we receive.

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Links

Dejan
Ravendb
Informatics
Domain-driven design
Event sourcing
Data is worthless • - said in episode 601

Developer relations
Nosql databases
Jack of all trades
Jimmy • - who introduced Fredrik to Dejan at 
Øredev 2024
Hibernate
Relational databases
Oren Eini • - creator of Ravendb

Antipatterns
n+1
Couchbase
Scrum
Agile software development
The Toyota approach
The Scrum guide
Unison programming language • - VC funded

Dr. Dobb’s journal
The free lunch is over
Concurrency
SOLID
Liskov substitution principle
Repositories on top Unitofwork are not a good idea • - by Rob Conery

Elm

Titles

 • A mathematician turned software developer

 • Coding, but without deadline

 • Saturated with software development

 • Encapsulation of knowledge

 • A bit surreal

 • Accept people as they are

 • There’s a second line

 • Professional depression

 • Prevented, not diagnosed

 • The pipeline kind of thinking

 • Frustration-driven development

 • (You shouldn’t be) Punished for being successful

 • The largest company of his or her life so far

 • Optimized for maintaining the status quo

 • Wash away all the context

 • Manager of one

 • The proverbial Jira

 • Substantial content

 • Methods of moving forward

Kodsnack 620 - Encapsulation of knowledge, with Dejan Milicic

Recorded on-stage at Øredev 2024, Fredrik talks to Ingrid af Sandeberg about AI and people’s perception of it. While it’s very powerful to be able to interact with models through natural language, that interface in itself hides a lot of what’s actually going on.

Many thanks to Øredev for inviting Kodsnack again, they paid for the trip and the editing time of these keynote recordings, but have no say about the content of these or any other episodes.

Thank you Cloudnet for sponsoring our VPS!

Comments, questions or tips? We a re @kodsnack, @tobiashieta, @oferlund and @bjoreman on Twitter, have a page on Facebook and can be emailed at info@kodsnack.se if you want to write longer. We read everything we receive.

If you enjoy Kodsnack we would love a review in iTunes! You can also support the podcast by buying us a coffee (or two!) through Ko-fi.

Links

Øredev
All the presentation videos from Øredev 2024
Ingrid
AI, truth, and the new information environment • - Ingrid’s keynote

The five levels of vehicle autonomy
Support us on Ko-fi!
SLM - small language models
Hugging face
Googles pagerank
Mayo clinic

Titles

 • AI is a lot wider

 • A different type of error

 • This chaos element

Kodsnack 618 - This chaos element, with Ingrid af Sandeberg

Jono Bacon
 

Internetdagarna är över! Vi lämnade Stockholm Waterfront med ett par intervjuer, reflektioner och en hel del idéer och uppslag för vad vi vill göra med podcasten framöver.

Först ut är vår intervju med Jono Bacon. Jono är Community Manager på Canonical, företaget som ligger bakom Linux-distributionen Ubuntu. Han var på Internetdagarna för att hålla en keynote med teman Community, så våra frågor började där. Han är dock även programmerare, musiker och en allmänt trevlig snubbe, så vi hinner avverka allt möjligt från hemmakontor till mobilprogrammering.

Jono har även sin egen podcast som vi rekommenderar till alla som är intresserade av öppen källkod eller bara vill höra mer av Jono. Vi låter det här citatet från vår intervju tjäna som ett smakprov eller varning!

“Some people are just assholes. Some people are just grade-A, copper-bottom, 24 carat gold assholes out there!”

Länkar

 • Jonos hemsida: 
jonobacon.org
 • Jono på twitter: 
@jonobacon
Severed Fifth
Art of Community
Bad Voltage
Ubuntu Touch SDK Beta
iRaccoonShow
PhoneGap
Ubuntu JuJu
Gustavo Niemeyer - Ubuntu Touch och Go
Bad Voltage pratar om PS4 och XBone

Kodsnack 34 - Intervju med Jono Bacon

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