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The DSR Network

This podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of AEI, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else.

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On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we discuss Israel and Hamas reaching a ceasefire, James Comey pleading not guilty on two counts of lying to Congress, FBI agents being diverted to immigration enforcement, and more. 
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DSR Daily October 9: Israel and Hamas Reach Ceasefire

Representative Adam Smith, the ranking member on the House Armed Services Committee, joins host David Rothkopf to discuss recent important developments in the Middle East, the president's "ridiculous" Quantico speech to military leaders, the future of US national security, and how to get Americans to come together to stop the push toward authoritarianism in the U.S. 

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NTK: Breaking News: A Senior Congressional Dem With a Clear Plan to Win at Home and Abroad

President Trump’s efforts to prosecute his enemies are suddenly looking even more lawless. Leaks to ABC News just revealed that Justice Department insiders doubt the validity of the prosecution of former FBI director James Comey. This comes after inside sources told MSNBC that a senior prosecutor is resisting indicting New York attorney general Letitia James because the case against her is so weak. Trump is demanding prosecutions of both, and the bucking of his pressure reveals just how corrupt his directives truly are. Meanwhile, Trump just called for the jailing of the governor of Illinois. We talked about all this with former federal prosecutor Kristy Parker, counsel at Protect Democracy. She explains why Trump’s prosecutions are so baseless, what we can read into the resistance inside DOJ, and how it might slow our slide into lawlessness. 
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The Daily Blast: Trump Threats to Jail Foes Take Darker Turn amid Damning New DOJ Leaks

It’s Extreme Make-Over: Military Edition here in the United States. But Trump doesn’t just have a fresh coat of paint in mind — he’s trying to change the rules for how and where our armed forces operate. Friends and experts Rosa Brooks, David Sanger, and Kori Schake join David Rothkopf to shine a light on the nefarious actions of this administration and why the fallout could be calamitous. 
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Trump's Military Make-Over Has Experts Worried and Enemies Celebrating

"When they go low, we go high" is officially dead—and David Rothkopf and Norm Ornstein are here to unleash a scathing critique of the Democratic Party's refusal to fight back. We need to ask: how do Democrats confront the "fuck around and find out" economy, quadrupled healthcare costs, the National Guard invasions, and finally make the Republican Party pay for their blatant disregard for our democracy?

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Words Matter: The Big Reason Trump and MAGA Must Be Held to Account

On the DSR Daily, we break down Pam Bondi’s combative Senate hearing, local politicians clashing with the administration over National Guard deployments, the Israeli military intercepting another Gaza-bound flotilla, and more. 
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DSR Daily October 8: Pam Bondi’s Fiery Hearing

With the government shutdown fight dragging into its second week, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene rolled a grenade into the GOP camp. She erupted on Twitter, demanding to know why Republican leaders have no plan to help millions of people who will be hurt when expanded Obamacare subsidies expire. This wrecks President Trump’s whole strategy in this fight, because it rests on the idea that only Democrats are to blame for the standoff, all due to their undying love of “illegals.” Greene’s broadside also sent House Speaker Mike Johnson scrambling. But we think this fiasco goes even deeper. We talked to veteran congressional scholar Norman Ornstein, author of a new piece on the standoff. We discuss how Greene has exposed serious cracks in the MAGA coalition, why this exposes weaknesses in Trump’s stance, and what Democrats can do to maximize their leverage.

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The Daily Blast: Marjorie Taylor Greene Just Wrecked Trump’s Entire Shutdown Strategy

How significant is data center water use? Is it tiny in relation to other sectors, significant in some water-stressed regions, or both? Can new liquid-based cooling technologies which (perhaps counter-intuitively) need less water than traditional air-based cooling technologies help? Join host David Sandalow as he discusses these topics and more with three coauthors of the new Sustainable Data Centers Roadmap -- Alexis Abramson (Dean of the Columbia Climate School), Julio Friedmann (Chief Scientist at Carbon Direct) and Angela Yuan (a master's degree candidate at the University of Cambridge). 

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AI, Energy and Climate: Data Center Water Use: Alexis Abramson, Julio Friedmann and Angela Yuan

On the DSR Daily for Tuesday, we cover the failure of yet another stopgap bill, Trump considering invoking the Insurrection Act, today’s meeting between Mark Carney and Trump, and more. 
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DSR Daily October 7: Another Stopgap Funding Bill Fails

Over the weekend, a federal judge blocked President Trump from deploying the National Guard in Portland. The judge blocked Trump from deploying the California National Guard to Oregon, too. Interestingly, the ruling cited Trump’s own tweet, which described Portland as “war ravaged,” in determining that he does not have unlimited authority to wildly invent facts on the ground wholesale as a pretext to justify any use of the military he wants. “The President’s determination was simply untethered to the facts,” this Trump-appointed judge declared. “This is a nation of Constitutional law, not martial law.” In short, Trump’s gale-force bad faith worked against him. We talked to Oregon’s Attorney General Dan Rayfield, who explains the ruling, details how Trump’s lawless words and threats are undermining his own case, examines the larger stakes of this moment, and looks ahead to what’s next.

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The Daily Blast: Trump’s Own Tweet on Portland Backfires as Judge Deals Him Harsh Loss

Yesterday, on September 10th, 2025, Charlie Kirk was assassinated. Today, September 11th, marks the 24th anniversary of the largest terrorist attack in U.S. history. Laurie Garrett joins David Rothkopf and Norm Ornstein in a sincere conversation to memorialize 9/11, as well as discuss the tough challenges we’ve faced since, including the alarming upwards trend of political violence.

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Words Matter: Post-9/11 We Tried to Unite, Following the Kirk Shooting it’s the Opposite

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