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David Spark

Geoff Belknap

Steve Zalewski

Defense in Depth promises clear talk on cybersecurity’s most controversial and confusing debates. Once a week we choose one controversial and popular cybersecurity debate and use the InfoSec community’s insights to lead our discussion.

Defense in Depth

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Check out this post by Mike Gallardo for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining them is Alex Guilday, BISO, Royal Caribbean Group.
 

 
In this episode:
 
 • Timing the approach
 • When persistence becomes harassment
 • Playing the long game
 • The necessity argument
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, Cyera
 

 
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Sales Follow Up Sequences: What Works Best in Cyber?

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Check out this post by Evgeniy Kharam for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is Ryan Dunn, Leader of Product and Supply Chain Technology, Specialized Bicycle Components. 
 
And check out "Architecting Success: The Art of Soft Skills in Technical Sales: Connect to Sell More" by Evgeniy Kharam we referenced in this episode.
 
In this episode:
 
 • Beyond the technical playbook
 • Influencing without authority
 • Partnering, not just selling
 • The deliberate work of connection
 
Thanks to our sponsor, HackerOne
 
 
 
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What Soft Skills Do You Need in Cyber?

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Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Bil Harmer, security advisor, Craft Ventures. Joining them is James Bruce, business security services director, WPP.
 
In this episode:
 
 • Turning visibility into actionable intelligence
 • Pure visibility still provides an essential security foundation
 • Finding strategic value
 • The risk of gaps in identity management
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker
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What is the Visibility That Security Teams Need?

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Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Dan Walsh, CISO, Datavant. Joining them is their sponsored guest, Ash Hunt, vp, strategy, EMEA, Cyera.
 
In this episode:
 
 • The access creep challenge
 • Bridging intent and execution
 • Looking for integrity
 • Racing against exponential complexity
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, Cyera
 
 
 

 
 
 AI is moving fast - can your security keep up? Join the leaders shaping the future of data and AI security at DataSecAI Conference 2025, hosted by Cyera, Nov 12–13 in Dallas. Register now at https://www.cyera.com/?utm_source=cisoseries

Data Governance in the Age of AI

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Check out this post by David Mundy of Tuskira for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is Jason Taule, CISO, Luminis Health.
 
In this episode:
 
 • ROI challenges 
 • Venture capital saturation
 • Risk aversion and organizational politics
 • A GTM transformation
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, Doppel
 

 
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How Can Security Vendors Better Stand Out?

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Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining us is our sponsored guest, Kara Sprague, CEO, HackerOne.
 
In this episode:
 
 • Shadow AI as a control problem
 • Rethinking identity for autonomous agents
 • When process meets momentum
 • Beyond blocking: channeling AI usage
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, HackerOne
 

 
 Discover how AI innovators like Adobe, Anthropic, and Snap are using AI to find and fix vulnerabilities across the software development lifecycle. HackerOne, the global leader in offensive security solutions, reveals all in the CISOs’ guide to securing the future of AI. Download it now to see how AI can strengthen your security posture. Learn more at https://www.hackerone.com/

What New Risks Does AI Introduce?

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Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining us is CISO Series reporter and CISO herself, Hadas Cassorla.
 
In this episode:
 
 • Security poverty line excludes SMBs 
 • Skills gap and channel dynamics slow SMB security adoption
 • The startup disadvantage cycle
 • Technology adoption flows from enterprise complexity to market simplification
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker
 

 
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The Pattern of Early Adoption of Security Tools

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Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining us is our sponsored guest Mokhtar Bacha, founder and CEO, Formal.
 
In this episode:
 
 • Access management faces transformation 
 • AI agents demand new authentication paradigms
 • AI complexity demands simplified governance approaches
 • Data-centric identity management replaces role-based approaches
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, Formal
 

 
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How Are You Managing the Flow of AI Data

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Check out this post by Geoff Belknap, co-host of Defense in Depth, for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and John Overbaugh, CISO, Alpine Investors. Joining us is our sponsored guest, Pukar Hamal, founder and CEO at SecurityPal.
 
In this episode: 
 
 • When business moves faster than security
 • Turning obstacles into opportunities
 • The art of saying "not like that"
 • Know your regulatory landscape
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, SecurityPal AI
 
 
 
 SecurityPal is the leader in Customer Assurance, helping companies accelerate security assurance without compromising accuracy. Their AI + human expertise approach, dynamic Trust Center, and modern TPRM solution eliminate manual work and streamline vendor security at scale. To learn more, visit securitypal.ai.

How to Deal with Last Minute Compliance Requirements

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Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining us is Justin Berman, formerly vp of platform engineering and CISO at Thirty Madison Health.
 
In this episode: 
 
 • Maps without transportation
 • The untouchable employee problem
 • Attestation theater
 • The lightbulb moment
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, SecurityPal
 
 
 
SecurityPal is the leader in Customer Assurance, helping companies accelerate security assurance without compromising accuracy. Their AI + human expertise approach, dynamic Trust Center, and modern TPRM solution eliminate manual work and streamline vendor security at scale. To learn more, visit securitypal.ai.

Do You Have a Functional Policy or Did You Just Write One?

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One day you want to be a CISO. What area of security you begin your studies? Or maybe you shouldn't be studying security.
 
Check out this post for the discussion that are the basis of our conversation on this week’s episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Steve Zalewski. Our guest is Evelin Biro (@wolfsgame), CISO, Alliant Credit Union.
 
Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Qualys
 

 
Qualys is a pioneer and leading provider of cloud-based security and compliance solutions.
 
In this episode:
 
 What path should I take if I want to be a CISO?
 What security jobs/roles best prepare you to become a CISO?
 In what ways does the CISO role require totally different skills than the technical roles?

Roles to Prepare You to Be a CISO

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