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David Spark

Geoff Belknap

Steve Zalewski

Defense in Depth promises clear talk on cybersecurity's most controversial and confusing debates. Once a week we choose one controversial and popular cybersecurity debate and use the InfoSec community's insights to lead our discussion.

Defense in Depth

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Check out this post by Christofer Hoff of Truist for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Caleb Sima, builder, WhiteRabbit. Joining them is Crystal Chatam, vp of cybersecurity, Speedcast.
 
In this episode:
 
 • Understanding the fundamentals
 • The grift of superficial expertise
 • Hands-on experience matters 
 • A vulnerability at the leadership level
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, Stellar Cyber
 
 
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How To Tell When a Vendor is Selling AI Snake Oil

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Check out this post by Ross Haleliuk of Venture in Security for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining us is Davi Ottenheimer, vp, trust and digital ethics, Inrupt.
 
In this episode:
 
 • Network security isn't dying—it's evolving
 • The observability layer that can't be replaced
 • What's old is new again
 • The innovation gap
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, HackerOne
 
 
 Discover how AI innovators like Adobe, Anthropic, and Snap are using AI to find and fix vulnerabilities across the software development lifecycle. HackerOne, the global leader in offensive security solutions, reveals all in the CISOs' guide to securing the future of AI. Download it now to see how AI can strengthen your security posture. Learn more at https://www.hackerone.com/

In the Age of Identity, is Network Security Dead?

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Check out this post by Kevin Paige, CISO at ConductorOne, for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining us is our sponsored guest, Rob Allen, chief product officer, ThreatLocker.
 
In this episode:
 
 • When configuration drift becomes operational reality
 • The garden that never stops growing
 • From detection to cultural shift
 • The maturity gap
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker
 

 
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How to Manage Configuration Drift

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Check out this post by Kevin Paige, CISO at ConductorOne, for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is Julie Tsai, CISO-in-Residence, Ballistic Ventures.
 
In this episode:
 
 • Is least privilege dead?
 • Modern tactics, timeless principle
 • Implementation over ideology
 • Pragmatism over purity
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, Cyera
 

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Is Least Privilege Dead?

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Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Mike Johnson, CISO, Rivian. Joining them is their sponsored guest Bobby Ford, chief strategy and experience officer, Doppel.
 
In this episode:
 
 • Beyond the click
 • High-risk users demand different metrics
 • Building engagement over punishment
 • Creating a security culture through community
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, Doppel
 

 
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How Do We Measure Our Defenses Against Social Engineering Attacks?

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Check out this post by Mike Gallardo for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap. Joining them is Alex Guilday, BISO, Royal Caribbean Group.
 

 
In this episode:
 
 • Timing the approach
 • When persistence becomes harassment
 • Playing the long game
 • The necessity argument
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, Cyera
 

 
AI is moving fast - can your security keep up? Join the leaders shaping the future of data and AI security at DataSecAI Conference 2025, hosted by Cyera, Nov 12–13 in Dallas. Register now at https://datasecai2025.com/did.

Sales Follow Up Sequences: What Works Best in Cyber?

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Check out this post by Evgeniy Kharam for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is Ryan Dunn, Leader of Product and Supply Chain Technology, Specialized Bicycle Components. 
 
And check out "Architecting Success: The Art of Soft Skills in Technical Sales: Connect to Sell More" by Evgeniy Kharam we referenced in this episode.
 
In this episode:
 
 • Beyond the technical playbook
 • Influencing without authority
 • Partnering, not just selling
 • The deliberate work of connection
 
Thanks to our sponsor, HackerOne
 

 
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What Soft Skills Do You Need in Cyber?

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Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Bil Harmer, security advisor, Craft Ventures. Joining them is James Bruce, business security services director, WPP.
 
In this episode:
 
 • Turning visibility into actionable intelligence
 • Pure visibility still provides an essential security foundation
 • Finding strategic value
 • The risk of gaps in identity management
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, ThreatLocker
 Human error remains one of the top cybersecurity threats. Just one wrong click can open the door to ransomware or data loss. With ThreatLocker, unauthorized apps, scripts, and devices are blocked before they can ever run. See how ThreatLocker can help you gain more control over your environment. Threatlocker.com/CISO

What is the Visibility That Security Teams Need?

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Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Dan Walsh, CISO, Datavant. Joining them is their sponsored guest, Ash Hunt, vp, strategy, EMEA, Cyera.
 
In this episode:
 
 • The access creep challenge
 • Bridging intent and execution
 • Looking for integrity
 • Racing against exponential complexity
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, Cyera
 
 
 

 
 
 AI is moving fast - can your security keep up? Join the leaders shaping the future of data and AI security at DataSecAI Conference 2025, hosted by Cyera, Nov 12–13 in Dallas. Register now at https://www.cyera.com/?utm_source=cisoseries

Data Governance in the Age of AI

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Check out this post by David Mundy of Tuskira for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by David Spark, the producer of CISO Series, and Edward Contreras, senior evp and CISO, Frost Bank. Joining them is Jason Taule, CISO, Luminis Health.
 
In this episode:
 
 • ROI challenges 
 • Venture capital saturation
 • Risk aversion and organizational politics
 • A GTM transformation
 
Huge thanks to our sponsor, Doppel
 

 
Doppel is the first social engineering defense platform built to dismantle deception at the source. It uses AI and infrastructure correlation to detect, link, and disrupt impersonation campaigns before they spread - protecting brands, executives, and employees while turning every threat into action that strengthens defenses across a shared intelligence network. Learn more at https://www.doppel.com/platform

How Can Security Vendors Better Stand Out?

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Check out this post for the discussion that is the basis of our conversation on this week's episode co-hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), the producer of CISO Series, and Geoff Belknap (@geoffbelknap), CISO, LinkedIn. Joining me is our guest, Emily Heath, general partner, Cyberstarts.
 
In this episode:
 
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How do CISOs feel about sales pitches?
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Do they have legitimate complaints?
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When do these legitimate complaints cross the line to sounding entitled?
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Do CISOs need to show a little more empathy to sales?
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Thanks to our podcast sponsor, SquareX
 

 
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