How Trump and Harris Are Courting Pop Stars (Very Differently)

A discussion about the ways in which musicians and social media stars, both mainstream and more obscure, have figured into the current presidential campaign. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.