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Former Secretary of Defense James Mattis began his book tour by sitting down with The Atlantic editor Jeffrey Goldberg. "There is a lot about Donald Trump that he finds absurd and repellent but he is trying to maintain this disciplined approach of not speaking ill of a sitting president," Goldberg says. Brian Stelter asks Goldberg about the challenges of interviewing Mattis, plus the ongoing discussions in newsrooms about how to cover Trump's erratic behavior.To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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