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Dr. Mark Hyman

Welcome to The Dr. Hyman Show, the groundbreaking podcast redefining health in America and empowering you to take ownership of your health. Hosted by Dr. Mark Hyman—this show tackles the most pressing issues of our time: chronic disease, mental health, food policy and controversy, prevention and recovery, and longevity. In an era where our food system fuels disease and outdated healthcare models fail to address root causes, Dr. Hyman delivers evidence-based insights and expert interviews to help you become the CEO of your own health—something your doctor isn’t doing.
The Dr. Hyman Show goes beyond the headlines to reimagine a food and healthcare system that protects health, unburdens our economy from the weight of chronic disease, supports the environment, and secures a vibrant future for all Americans. Whether you’re looking for cutting-edge protocols to transform your health, strategies to combat the chronic disease epidemic, or deep conversations about how wellness intersects with food, politics, and the environment, this podcast is your trusted guide. Rethink disease, claim your health, and join the movement for a healthier nation—tune into The Dr. Hyman Show today!

The Doctor's Farmacy with Mark Hyman, M.D.

Our food system is reaching a breaking point—and the warning signs are already on our plates. From disappearing crops to rising health costs, it’s clear that the way we grow and eat food can’t continue as it has.

Today on The Dr. Hyman Show, I sit down with Sam Kass, former White House chef and senior policy advisor, to explore his new book The Last Supper: The Politics of the End of Food. We talk about what’s driving the crisis, what’s already being done to repair it, and how each of us can help build a food system that supports both people and the planet. Join us for the full conversation on YouTube, or listen wherever you get your podcasts.

We discuss:

• What if the foods you eat every day are quietly shaping both your health and the planet’s?

• Learn how a healthier food system could mean cleaner air, better soil, and stronger communities.

• See why so many farmers want to do better—and what keeps them stuck.

• How everyday food choices shape the culture that businesses and policymakers follow.

• Simple actions you can take now to help build a food system that serves all of us.

If this really is our “last supper” with the food system as we know it, we have the power to decide what comes next. Let’s make it a meal that feeds both people and the planet.

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Former White House Chef Sam Kass: How to Overcome the Coming Food Crisis

Most people don’t realize that what happens in the mouth can ripple through the whole body. The balance of the oral microbiome—the community of bacteria living in our mouths—can either protect us or trigger widespread inflammation that affects the heart, joints, and brain. Hidden dental infections or mercury fillings can quietly drive fatigue, autoimmune issues, or dementia—and fixing the mouth often helps the rest of the body heal, too. The good news is that with simple steps like eating whole foods (often removing gluten), cleaning the mouth well, and breathing through the nose, we can protect both our smile and our overall health. When we care for the mouth as part of the body, lasting wellness becomes possible from the inside out.

In this episode, Dr. Todd LePine, Dr. Elizabeth Boham, James Nestor, and I talk about how a healthy mouth microbiome is a key to whole-body wellness.

Dr. Todd LePine graduated from Dartmouth Medical School and is Board Certified in Internal Medicine, specializing in Integrative Functional Medicine. He is an Institute for Functional Medicine Certified Practitioner. Prior to joining The UltraWellness Center, he worked as a physician at Canyon Ranch in Lenox, MA, for 10 years. Dr. LePine’s focus at The UltraWellness Center is to help his patients achieve optimal health and vitality by restoring the natural balance to both the mind and the body. His areas of interest include optimal aging, bio-detoxification, functional gastrointestinal health, systemic inflammation, autoimmune disorders, and the neurobiology of mood and cognitive disorders.

Dr. Elizabeth Boham is Board Certified in Family Medicine from Albany Medical School, and she is an Institute for Functional Medicine Certified Practitioner and the Medical Director of The UltraWellness Center. Dr. Boham lectures on a variety of topics, including Women’s Health and Breast Cancer Prevention, insulin resistance, heart health, weight control and allergies. She is on the faculty for the Institute for Functional Medicine.

James Nestor is an author and journalist who has written for Scientific American, Outside, The New York Times, and more. His book, Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art, was an instant New York Times and London Sunday Times bestseller. Breath explores how the human species has lost the ability to breathe properly—and how to get it back. Breath spent 18 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list in the first year of release, and will be translated into more than 30 languages. Breath was awarded the Best General Nonfiction Book of 2020 by the American Society of Journalists and Authors, and was nominated for Best Science Book of 2021 by the Royal Society. Nestor has spoken at Stanford Medical School, Yale School of Medicine, Harvard Medical School, The United Nations, Global Classroom, and appeared on more than 60 radio and television shows, including Fresh Air with Terry Gross, the Joe Rogan Show, and more. He lives and breathes in San Francisco.

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Full-length episodes can be found here:The Functional Medicine Approach To Oral Health

Getting Rid of Cold Sores and Canker Sores

The Power Of Breath As Medicine

The Mouth-Body Connection: How Oral Health Shapes Whole-Body Healing

My guest today on The Dr. Hyman Show, Dr. Tom Frieden has spent decades proving how small, smart changes can save millions of lives. 

We talk about his new book, The Formula for Better Health: How to Save Millions of Lives—Including Your Own—a fascinating look at what really works to prevent disease and rebuild public trust. We also dive into his See–Believe–Create framework—how it connects public policy with personal action to make prevention the easy choice. 

Catch the full conversation on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts. 

We unpack: 

• Why rebuilding trust in public health is key to protecting your own wellbeing 

• How balancing sodium and potassium could transform your heart health 

• What the food industry learned from Big Tobacco—and how to take back control of your choices 

• Simple policy shifts that could save millions of lives and make prevention easier for everyone 

• How AI and team-based care could shape a future of medicine that works for you 

We already know what works. The challenge is putting it into action. This conversation is about how each of us can help create that change, one small step at a time. 

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Former CDC Director on Rebuilding Public Health and Trust in America | Dr. Tom Frieden

A hidden fire called chronic inflammation drives many problems—from joint pain and arthritis to autoimmune conditions, and even faster aging. Typical fixes (like pain meds and steroid shots) calm symptoms but often miss the “why,” and can leave people still hurting or even create more issues. Big triggers of inflammation that impact our joints, and so much more, include sugar and refined carbs, extra weight, leaky gut, toxins, infections, stress, and poor sleep—plus joints naturally get less blood and oxygen as we age. This is why it’s important to create an anti-inflammatory lifestyle plan starting with real whole foods, and incorporating regular exercise, stress management, gut repair, and targeted anti-inflammatory supplements. 

In this episode, I discuss, along with Dr. George Papanicolaou and Dr. Cindy Geyer, how chronic inflammation, arthritis, and joint pain can be reduced using a Functional Medicine approach, including how to do the anti-inflammatory 10-Day Detox diet. 

Dr. George Papanicolaou is a graduate of the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine and is Board Certified in Family Medicine from Abington Memorial Hospital. Over time as the healthcare system made it harder for patients to receive personal care, Dr. Papanicolaou decided a change was needed. He began training in Functional Medicine through the Institute of Functional Medicine. In 2015, he established Cornerstone Personal Health—a practice dedicated entirely to Functional Medicine. In August 2017, Dr. Papanicolaou joined The UltraWellness Center.

Dr. Cindy Geyer received her bachelor of science and her doctor of medicine degrees, with honors, from the Ohio State University. She completed residency in internal medicine at Strong Memorial Hospital in Rochester, N.Y. and is triple board certified in internal medicine, integrative medicine and lifestyle medicine.

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Prolozone and Nutritional Therapy for Osteoarthritis

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Is An Autoimmune Condition Driving Your Raynaud's Syndrome?

How To Do The 10-Day Detox

Inflammation: The Hidden Fire Behind Pain, Aging, and Disease

Food is medicine isn’t a slogan—it’s how our bodies are designed to heal. My guest today, Autumn Smith, knows that better than anyone. After overcoming years of digestive and mental health struggles, she co-founded Paleo Valley and Wild Pastures to help others access truly nutrient-dense food.

On this episode of The Dr. Hyman Show, we explore how regenerative farming restores both soil and human health, why food quality matters as much as food choice, and how regeneratively raised animal foods can contain the same healing compounds we find in plants. Watch the full conversation on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts.

You’ll learn:

• How to tell if your meat is truly regenerative

• What labels like grass-fed, grass-finished, and regenerative really mean

• Why soil health directly impacts your nutrient intake

• Easy ways to lower inflammation through better fats

• Affordable steps to eat well and support the planet

When we heal the soil, we heal ourselves—and that change starts with what’s on your plate

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Regenerative Meat Could Save Your Health (and the Planet) | Autumn Smith

Many communities face an uneven food landscape: plenty of cheap junk food, but few places to buy fresh, healthy food. This pattern—often called “food apartheid”—doesn’t happen by accident; it grows from redlining, unfair rules, and corporate control. The impacts are steep: higher rates of type 2 diabetes, kidney failure, and learning problems in Black, Latino, and Indigenous communities, along with unsafe conditions for farmworkers. These harms have a long history, and government subsidies and convincing marketing keep ultraprocessed foods on top. However, we take practical steps to make change including investing in regenerative and community farms, protecting and fairly paying farmworkers, and enforcing civil-rights laws so public dollars support real food, healthy soil, and communities that thrive.

In this episode, Leah Penniman, Dr. Rupa Marya, Raj Patel, Karen Washington, and I discuss why food injustices exist and how we can create regenerative food systems to serve everyone.

Leah Penniman is a Black Kreyol educator, farmer/peyizan, author, and food justice activist from Soul Fire Farm in Grafton, NY. She co-founded Soul Fire Farm in 2010 with the mission to end racism in the food system and reclaim our ancestral connection to land. As co-Executive Director, Leah is part of a team that facilitates powerful food sovereignty programs - including farmer training for Black & Brown people, a subsidized farm food distribution program for communities living under food apartheid, and domestic and international organizing toward equity in the food system. Leah has been farming since 1996, holds an MA in Education and a BA in Environmental Science from Clark University, and is a Manye (Queen Mother) in Vodun. 

Dr. Rupa Marya is a physician, activist, mother, and composer. She is an Associate Professor of Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco where she practices and teaches Internal Medicine. Her research examines the health impacts of social systems, from agriculture to policing. She is a co-founder of the Do No Harm Coalition, a collective of health workers committed to addressing disease through structural change. At the invitation of Lakota health leaders, she is currently helping to set up the Mni Wiconi Health Clinic and Farm at Standing Rock in order to decolonize medicine and food. 

Raj Patel is a Research Professor at the University of Texas at Austin’s Lyndon B Johnson School of Public Affairs, a professor in the University’s department of nutrition, and a Research Associate at Rhodes University, South Africa. He is the author of Stuffed and Starved, the New York Times bestselling The Value of Nothing, co-author of A History of the World in Seven Cheap Things. A James Beard Leadership Award winner, he is the co-director of the award-winning documentary about climate change and the food system, The Ants & The Grasshopper. 

Karen is a farmer, activist, and food advocate. She is the Co-owner and Farmer at Rise & Root Farm in Chester, New York. In 2010, Karen Co-Founded Black Urban Growers (BUGS), an organization supporting growers in both urban and rural settings. In 2012, Ebony magazine voted her one of the 100 most influential African Americans in the country, and in 2014 Karen was the recipient of the James Beard Leadership Award. Karen serves on the boards of the New York Botanical Gardens, SoulFire Farm, the Mary Mitchell Center, Why Hunger, and Farm School NYC.

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Full-length episodes can be found here:Why Food Is A Social Justice Issue

Food Justice: Why Our Bodies And Our Society Are Inflamed

A Way Out Of Food Racism And Poverty

Land, Power, and the Plate: Ending Food Apartheid with Regenerative Justice

Today we tackle Parkinson’s as a preventable epidemic—not an inevitable fate. I’m joined on The Dr. Hyman Show by two of the field’s top neurologists, Drs. Ray Dorsey and Michael Okun, co-authors of The Parkinson’s Plan, to unpack why cases are exploding and what we can do about it right now.

We look at how toxins drive disease, why Parkinson’s goes far beyond dopamine, and the early signs most people miss—plus what you can do today to protect your brain. And we connect the dots between environmental exposures—whether from food, water, or even recreational spaces—and the growing burden of neurological disease. Watch the full conversation here or listen wherever you get your podcasts.

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We also explore:

• How to spot early signs—like loss of smell—long before a diagnosis

• Everyday ways to cut toxin exposures in your food, water, and home

• Why Parkinson’s is a whole-body disease, and what that means for prevention

• The kind of exercise that protects your brain and slows progression

• Simple nutrient checks that can support medication and brain health

Parkinson’s isn’t inevitable. Protecting brain health starts with small daily choices. These are steps you can take right now for yourself and your loved ones. With awareness and action, you can build resilience today and help shape a healthier future.

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Brain-First or Gut-First? Rethinking Parkinson’s Disease w/ Drs. Ray Dorsey & Michael Okun

Our immune systems are under more pressure than ever—from processed diets, environmental toxins, stress, and fast-spreading infections—and the result is faster aging and greater vulnerability to disease. As we grow older, “zombie cells” spread inflammation throughout the body, weakening defenses and accelerating decline. But research shows we’re not powerless: the emerging science of immuno-rejuvenation reveals that we can retrain and rebuild our immunity. Through the right foods, lifestyle habits, and even strategic stressors, the body has hidden pathways for repair and renewal—offering clues to how we might slow aging and unlock greater resilience.

In this episode, I discuss, along with Dr. Elizabeth Boham and Dr. Roger Seheult, how we can support the immune system by using food, lifestyle, and hormetic stress to reduce illness and restore resilience while slowing aging.

Dr. Elizabeth Boham is Board Certified in Family Medicine from Albany Medical School, and she is an Institute for Functional Medicine Certified Practitioner and the Medical Director of The UltraWellness Center. Dr. Boham lectures on a variety of topics, including Women’s Health and Breast Cancer Prevention, insulin resistance, heart health, weight control and allergies. She is on the faculty for the Institute for Functional Medicine.

Dr. Roger Seheult is currently an Associate Clinical Professor at the University of California, Riverside School of Medicine, and an Assistant Clinical Professor at the School of Medicine and Allied Health at Loma Linda University. Dr. Seheult is quadruple board-certified in Internal Medicine, Pulmonary Diseases, Critical Care Medicine, and Sleep Medicine through the American Board of Internal Medicine. His current practice is in Banning, California where he is a critical care physician, pulmonologist, and sleep physician at Beaver Medical Group. He was formerly the Director for Intensive Care Services at San Gorgonio Memorial Hospital. He lectures routinely across the country at conferences and for medical, PA, and RT societies. Dr. Seheult is also the Co-founder of MedCram, an online medical education company that helps healthcare professionals and also lay people understand medical topics clearly.

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How To Reset Your Immune System At A Cellular Level

Why You Keep Getting Sinus Infections, Colds, Urinary Tract Infections, And Other Recurrent Infections

Don’t Let a Cold Get You Down: Try These Immunity Hacks

How To Upgrade Your Immune System To Fight Viruses And Prevent Disease

Foods and Habits That Keep Your Immune System Resilient

Obesity is often seen as a matter of willpower, but science tells a different story. My guest today, Dr. David Kessler—former FDA commissioner, lawyer, physician, and the man who took on Big Tobacco—explains why biology, not blame, drives our struggles with weight.

On this episode of The Dr. Hyman Show, we talk about why weight struggles are so common today, what new drugs can and can’t do, and how his new FDA petition targets one of the biggest culprits: processed refined carbs. Catch the full conversation on YouTube, or listen wherever you get your podcasts.

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You’ll learn:

• How food companies use ingredients like processed refined carbs to make products irresistible

• Why GLP-1 drugs help many lose weight—but can’t fix the food environment driving the crisis

• How belly fat fuels heart disease, diabetes, and cancer—and why ultraprocessed foods are a big part of the problem

• Simple ways to break free from foods engineered to make you overeat

• What Dr. Kessler’s FDA petition could mean for limiting processed carbs in our food supply and improving our collective health

Plus, here’s a bonus: We’ve adapted Dr. Kelsser’s petition into a free PDF guide—The Hard Truth About Processed Carbs—so you can see exactly how these ingredients affect your health…and why his FDA petition REALLY matters. 

Tune in, download the guide, and find out how you can be part of the solution.

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Obesity Isn’t Your Fault: Biology, Addiction & Solutions with Dr. David Kessler

Thyroid trouble often starts as a whisper—tiredness, stubborn weight, dry skin—until a closer look shows the tiny neck gland that sets the body’s “speed” is out of tune. Basic tests can miss the real issue, so checking active hormones and thyroid antibodies—and hunting for triggers like stress, gluten sensitivity, toxins, nutrient gaps, and gut imbalances—can reveal what’s really going on. When understood this way, thyroid health is no longer just about numbers on a lab report—it’s about restoring balance in the whole system. With the right testing, nutrition, and support, energy, mood, and metabolism can all return to their natural rhythm.

In this episode, I discuss, along with Dr. Elizabeth Boham and Dr. George Papanicolaou, thyroid conditions such as hypothyroidism, hyperthyroidism, thyroid autoimmunity and how Functional Medicine practitioners take a different approach to find the root cause of the imbalance.

Dr. Elizabeth Boham is Board Certified in Family Medicine from Albany Medical School, and she is an Institute for Functional Medicine Certified Practitioner and the Medical Director of The UltraWellness Center. Dr. Boham lectures on a variety of topics, including Women’s Health and Breast Cancer Prevention, insulin resistance, heart health, weight control and allergies. She is on the faculty for the Institute for Functional Medicine.

Dr. George Papanicolaou is a graduate of the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine and is Board Certified in Family Medicine from Abington Memorial Hospital. Over time as the healthcare system made it harder for patients to receive personal care, Dr. Papanicolaou decided a change was needed. He began training in Functional Medicine through the Institute of Functional Medicine. In 2015, he established Cornerstone Personal Health—a practice dedicated entirely to Functional Medicine. In August 2017, I invited Dr. Papanicolaou to join The UltraWellness Center and we’ve been successfully helping people together ever since.

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Full-length episodes can be found here:How To Treat The Root Cause Of Thyroid Problems

Is An Underactive Thyroid To Blame For Your Mysterious Symptoms?

A Root Cause Approach to Hyperthyroidism and Graves’ Disease

From Fatigue to Freedom: Healing the Thyroid Beyond Lab Tests

In my conversation with Nina Teicholz, a leading science journalist, we explore saturated fats, modern nutrition policy, and flawed research on our way to some startling conclusions. Her bestselling book, The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat, and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet, actually inspired me to write my own book. It was a tremendous honor to have her on the show. Join us for an hour long conversation about things that matter. 
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