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Warren Parad

Will Button

Join us in listening to the experienced experts discuss cutting edge challenges in the world of DevOps. From applying the mindset at your company, to career growth and leadership challenges within engineering teams, and avoiding the common antipatterns. Every episode you'll meet a new industry veteran guest with their own unique story.

Adventures in DevOps

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In this adventure, we sit down with Dan Wahlin, Principal of DevRel for JavaScript, AI, and Cloud at Microsoft, to explore the complexities of modern infrastructure. We examine how cloud platforms like Azure function as "building blocks". Which of course, can quickly become overwhelming without the right instruction manuals. To bridge this gap, one potential solution we discuss is the emerging reliance on AI "skills"—specialized markdown files. They can give coding agents the exact knowledge needed to deploy poorly documented complex open-source projects to container apps without requiring deep infrastructure expertise. 
 
And we are saying the silent part outloud, as we review how handing the keys over to autonomous agents introduces terrifying new attack vectors. It's the security nightmare of prompt injections and the careless execution of unvetted AI skills. Which is a blast from the past, and we reminisce how current downloading of random agent instructions to running untrusted executables from early internet sites. While tools like OpenClaw purport to offer incredible automation, such as allowing agents to scour the internet and execute code without human oversight, it's already led us to disastrous leaks of API keys. We emphasize the critical necessity of validating skills through trusted repositories where even having agents perform security reviews on the code before execution is not enough.
 
Finally, we tackle the philosophical debate around AI productivity and why Dorota's LLMs raise the floor and not the ceiling is so spot on. The standout pick requires mentioning, a fascinating 1983 paper titled "Ironies of Automation" by Lisanne Bainbridge. This paper perfectly predicts our current dilemma: automating systems often leaves the most complex, difficult tasks to human operators, proving that as automation scales, the need for rigorous human monitoring actually increases, destroying the very value that was attempting to be captured by the original innovation.
 💡 Notable Links: 
Agent Skill MarketplaceAI Fatigue is realEpisode: Does Productivity even exist?🎯 Picks: 
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Paper: Ironies of Automation (& AI) • Dan - 
Tool: SkillShare

Upskilling your agents

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How much do you really know about the protocol that everything is built upon? This week, we go behind the scenes with Simone Carletti, a 13-year industry veteran and CTO at DNSimple, to explore the hidden complexities of DNS. We attempt to uncover why exactly DNS is often the last place developers check during an outage, drawing fascinating parallels between modern web framework abstractions and network-level opaqueness.
 
Simone shares why his team relies on bare-metal machines instead of cloud providers to run their Erlang-based authoritative name servers, highlighting the critical need to control BGP routing. We trade incredible war stories, from Facebook locking themselves out of their own data centers due to a BGP error, to a massive 2014 DDoS attack that left DNSimple unable to access their own log aggregation service. The conversation also tackles the reality of implementing new standards like SVCB and HTTPS records, and why widespread DNSSEC adoption might require an industry-wide mandate.
 
And of course we have the picks, but I'm not spoiling this weeks, just yet...
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Episode: IPv6SVCB + HTTPS DNS Resource Records RFC 9460Avian Carrier RFC 1149🎯 Picks: 
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Book: One Second After • Simone - 
Recommended diving locations in Italy • and 
Wreck diving projects

There's no way it's DNS...

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We are joined by Daan Boerlage, CTO at Mavexa as we tackle the long-awaited arrival of IPv6 in cloud infrastructure. Here, we highlight how migrating to an IPv6-native setup eliminates public/private subnet complexity and expensive NAT gateways natively. As well as entirely sidestepping the nightmare of IP collisions during VPC peering.
 
Beyond the financial savings of ditching IPv4 charges, we explore the technical superiority of IPv6. Daan breaks down just how mind-bogglingly large the address space is, and focuses on how it solves serverless IP exhaustion while systematically debunking the pervasive myth that NAT is a security feature. We also discuss how IPv6's end-to-end connectivity, paving the way for next-generation protocols like QUIC, HTTP/3, and WebTransport.
 
The episode rounds out with a cathartic venting session about legacy architecture, detailing a grueling nine-year migration away from a central shared database that ironically culminated in a move to Salesforce. Almost by design, Daan recommends his pick, praising its intuitive use of signals and fine-grained reactivity over React. And Warren's pick explores storing data in the internet itself by leveraging the dwell time of ICMP ping packets.
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FOSDEM talk on the internet of threadsHilbert Map of IPv6 address space🎯 Picks: 
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Harder Drive: what we didn't want or need • Daan - 
SolidJS

Getting better at networking

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In this episode, we examine how the software industry is fundamentally changing. We're joined by our expert guest, Matt Edmunds, a long-time UX director, principal designer, and Principal UX Consultant at Tiny Pixls. The episode kicks, analyzing how early AI implementation in Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS) created rigid hiring processes that actively filter out the varied candidates who actually bring necessary diversity to engineering teams.
 
Of course we get to the world of "vibe coding", and revisit the poor LLM usage highlighted in the DORA 2025 report, exploring how professionals without traditional software engineering backgrounds are leveraging models to generate functional code.
 
Matt details his hands-on experience using the latest models of Claude Opus and Gemini Pro, successfully building low-level C virtual audio driver in 30 minutes drive by personal needs. We discuss the inherent challenges of large context windows, and coin the term "guess-driven development". To combat these hallucinations, Matt shares his strategy of using question-based prompting and anchoring the AI with comprehensive test files and documented schemas, which the models treat as an undeniable source of truth.
 
Beyond the code, we look at the broader economic and physical limitations of the current AI boom, noting that AI providers are operating at massive financial losses while awaiting hardware efficiency improvements.
 💡 Notable Links: 
Oatmeal on hating AI ArtEpisode: DORA 2025 Report🎯 Picks: 
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Book: Start With Why • Matt - 
Book: Creativity, Inc.

Varied Designer Does Vibecoding: Why testing always wins

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We dive into the shifting landscape of developer relations and the new necessity of optimizing documentation for both humans and LLMs. Melinda Fekete joins from Unleash, and suggests transitioning to platform to help get this right by utilizing LLMs.txt files to cleanly expose content to AI models.
 
The conversation then takes a look at the June GCP outage, which was triggered by a single IAM policy change. This illustrates that even with world-class CI/CD pipelines, deploying code using runtime controls such as feature flags is still risky. Feature flags can't even save GCP and other cloud providers, so what hope do the rest of us have.
 
Finally, we discuss the practical implementation of these systems, advocating for "boring technology" like polling over streaming to ensure reliability, and conducting internal "breakathons" to test features before a full rollout.
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Diátaxis - Who is article this for?Fern - Docs PlatformCloudFlare - Feature Flag causes outageAWS - Graceful degredationBuilding for 5 nines reliabilityEpisode: Latency is always more important than freshnessEpisode: DORA 2025 Report🎯 Picks: 
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Show: Bosch - LA Detective procedural • Melinda - 
Wavelength - Party Game

DevOps trifecta: documentation, reliability, and feature flags

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Dorota, CEO of Authress, returns to apply the US Supreme Court’s definition of obscenity to a scandalous topic: Engineering Productivity. In a world obsessed with AI-driven efficiency, Dorota and Warren argue that software development productivity has nothing to do with manufacturing "gizmos" and everything to do with feelings. They dismantle the factory-floor mentality that equates typing speed with value, suggesting instead that the most productive work often happens while staring out a train window or disassociating in the shower.
 
The conversation takes a dark turn into the reality of performance reviews. If productivity is subjective, how do you decide who gets promoted? Dorota proposes the "Resentment Metric"—ignoring Jira tickets in favor of figuring out who the team has secret concerns fo. They also roast the "100% utilization" fallacy, noting that a fully utilized highway is just a parking lot, and the same logic applies to engineering teams that don't schedule downtime for actual thinking.
 
Ultimately, they land on a definition of productivity that would make any optimizer proud: deleting things. If the best code is no code, then the most productive engineer is the one removing waste, deleting replicas, and emptying S3 buckets. The episode wraps up with a credit-card-sized transformer (it's a tripod) and a book recommendation on why your international colleagues might be misinterpreting your silence.
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DevOps Episode: DORA 2025 ReportResearch: Happy software developers solve problems better🎯 Picks: 
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Book: The Culture Map • Dorota - 
GEOMETRICAL Pocket tripod

The Productivity Delusion: Gizmos, Resentment Metrics, and the Art of Deleting Code

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Paul Conroy, CTO at Square1, joins the show to prove that the best defense against malicious bots isn't always a firewall—sometimes, it’s creative data poisoning. Paul recounts a legendary story from the Irish property market where a well-funded competitor attempted to solve their "chicken and egg" problem by scraping his company's listings. Instead of waiting years for lawyers, Paul’s team fed the scrapers "Project Yellow Brick Road": fake listings that placed the British Prime Minister at 10 Downing Street in Dublin and the White House in County Cork. The result? The competitor’s site went viral for all the wrong reasons, forcing them to burn resources manually filtering junk until they eventually gave up and targeted someone else.
 
We also dive into the high-stakes world of election coverage, where Paul had three weeks to build a "coalition builder" tool for a national election. The solution wasn't a complex microservice architecture, but a humble Google Sheet wrapped in a Cloudflare Worker. Paul explains how they mitigated Google's rate limits and cold start times by putting a heavy cache in front of the sheet, leading to a crucial lesson in pragmatism: data that is "one minute stale" is perfectly acceptable if it saves the engineering team from building a complex invalidation strategy. Practically wins.
 
Finally, the conversation turns to the one thing that causes more sleepless nights than malicious scrapers: caching layers. Paul and the host commiserate over the "turtles all the way down" nature of modern caching, where a single misconfiguration can lead to a news site accidentally attaching a marathon runner’s photo to a crime story. They wrap up with picks, including a history of cryptography that features the Pope breaking Spanish codes and a defense of North Face hiking boots that might just be "glamping" gear in disguise.
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The North Face Hedgehog Gore-tex Hiking Shoes • Paul - 
The Code Book

Project Yellow Brick Road: Creative, Practical, and Unconventional Engineering

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"Those memes are not going to make themselves."
 
Dorota, CEO of Authress, joins us to roast the 2025 DORA Report, which she argues has replaced hard data with an AI-generated narrative. From the confusing disconnect between feeling productive and actually shipping code to the grim reality of a 30% acceptance rate, Warren and Dorota break down why this year's report smells a lot like manure.
 
We dissect the massive 142-page 2025 DORA Report. Dorota argues that the report, which is now rebranded as the "State of AI-Assisted Software Development", feels less like a scientific study of DevOps performance and more like a narrative written by an intern using an LLM prompt. The duo investigates the "stubborn results" where AI apparently makes everyone feel like a 10x developer, where the hard results tell a different story. AI actually increases software and product instability — failing to improve.
 
The conversation gets spicy as they debate the "pit of failure" that is feature flags (often used as a crutch for untested code) and the embarrassing reality that GitHub celebrates a mere 30% code acceptance rate as a "success." Dorota suggests that while AI raises the floor for average work, it completely fails when you need to solve complex problems or, you know, actually collaborate with another human being.
 
In a vivid analogy, Dorota compares reading this year's report to the Swiss Spring phenomenon — the time of year when farmers spray manure, leaving the beautiful landscape smelling...unique. The episode wraps up with a reality check on the physical limits of LLM context windows (more tokens, more problems) and a strong recommendation to ignore the AI hype cycle in favor of a much faster-growing organism: a kitchen countertop oyster mushroom kit.
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AI as an amplifier truism fallacyDORA 2025 ReportDevOps Episode: VS Code & GitHub CopilotWhere is the deluge of new software • - 
Impact of AI on software productsImpact of AI on Critical Thinking🎯 Picks: 
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The Maximum Effective Context Window • Dorota - 
Mushroom Grow Kit

Special: The DORA 2025 Critical Review

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"My biggest legacy at Google is the amount of systems I broke." — Sam Goto joins the show with a name that strikes fear into engineering systems everywhere. As a Senior Staff Engineer on the Chrome team, Sam shares the hilarious reality of having the last name "Goto," which once took down Google's internal URL shortener for four hours simply because he plugged in a new computer.
 
Sam gets us up to speed with Federated Credentials Management (FedCM), as we dive deep into why authentication has been built despite the browser rather than with it, and why it’s time to move identity from "user-land" to "kernel-land". This shift allows for critical UX improvements for logging in all users irrespective of what login providers you use, finally addressing the "NASCAR flag" problem of infinite login lists.
 
Most importantly, he shares why you don't need to change your technology stack to get all the benefits of FedCM. Finally, Sam details the "self-sustaining flame" strategy (as opposed to an ecosystem "flamethrower"), revealing how they utilized JavaScript SDKs to migrate massive platforms like Shopify and 50% of the web's login traffic without requiring application developers to rewrite their code.
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HSMs + TPM in production environmentsGet involved: FedCM W3C WGThe FedCM spec GitHub repoTPAC Browser Conference🎯 Picks: 
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Book: The Platform Revolution • Sam - 
The 7 Laws of Identity • and 
Short Story: The Egg By Andy Weir

Browser Native Auth and FedCM is finally here!

In this episode, we sit down with Barzan Mozafari, MIT alum and University of Michigan professor, to explore how AI-driven automation is revolutionizing cloud database optimization. Barzan shares his experiences in bridging academia and industry, and how his work in AI-powered database tuning is reshaping cloud infrastructure efficiency.

We discuss the challenges of AI adoption in cloud computing, addressing concerns like implementation risks, security, and trust in autonomous agents. Barzan explains how machine learning models can optimize performance, reduce cloud costs, and automate database management, freeing engineers from tedious manual tuning.

Additionally, we explore the future of AI in database systems, the evolving landscape of public and private datasets, and what the next decade holds for data-driven automation. Whether you're a DevOps engineer or a database architect, this episode is packed with insights into the intersection of AI and cloud technology.

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L8 Conference 2024 (Warsaw) • Barzan - 
Book: Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss • Jillian - 
Infinity Nikki (Open-world dress-up game)

Optimizing Cloud Databases with novel algorithms

In a lot of ways, DevOps folks are essentially Developers. They encode infrastructure and processes often using code. This episode with Will Button dives into how Developers can jump into DevOps by learning the ropes of what they're coding against and the problem sets solved by DevOps. This show also goes into how to communicate and collaborate between development and DevOps.Panel • Caleb Fornari
 • Charles Max Wood
 • Jeffrey Groman
Guest • Will Button

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