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Wes Bos & Scott Tolinski - Full Stack JavaScript Web Developers

Full Stack Developers Wes Bos and Scott Tolinski dive deep into web development topics, explaining how they work and talking about their own experiences. They cover from JavaScript frameworks like React, to the latest advancements in CSS to simplifying web tooling.

Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats

Scott and Wes break down the current state of React Server Components — what they are, how they work, and why they’re so controversial. From framework support to bundling complexity, it’s everything you need to know about RSC in 2025.
 Show Notes • 
00:00 • Welcome to Syntax!
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01:01 • Brought to you by 
Sentry.io • .
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01:55 • What exactly are React Server Components? 
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02:18 • Server components rendering.
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03:17 • Server components are async.
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03:45 • Server components can be suspended.
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05:05 • Server components send RSC payloads to the browser. 
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06:08 • This feels like HTMX?
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06:54 • Client components are still server rendered.
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07:58 • Server Functions.
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08:52 • useActionState.
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09:12 • Frameworks and React Platforms. 
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09:16 • NextJS.
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09:42 • Waku. 
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12:26 • 
candycode.com • 
Daishi Kato • 
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14:23 • React Router. 
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Michael Jackson Tweet • .
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19:29 • Vite. 
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vite-plugin-react-server • 
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20:54 • Tanstack. 
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 Syntax Ep 833 • .
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22:39 • Bun.
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23:01 • DIY.
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23:39 • Why so much hate?
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25:28 • I want it my way.
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27:46 • React Server Components lock-in.
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895: React Server Components: Where are we at?

896: Do I Still Need To Know JS/CSS/HTML with AI? × How To Sell An App × Is React Context Bad? × More

Want to level up your web dev game? Scott and Wes share their top tips for going deeper with your learning—covering everything from reading the docs and source code to finding mentorship and engaging with the community.
 Show Notes • 
00:00 • Welcome to Syntax!
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02:48 • Brought to you by 
Sentry.io • .
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03:54 • How do you go deeper?
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04:23 • Pick a project and build it.
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06:36 • Read the docs. 
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Svelte Docs • .
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09:07 • Read the source.
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11:19 • Consume content: blogs, conference talks, etc. 
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Dot Conferences on YouTube • .
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GitNation JavaScript Conferences • .
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16:24 • Discord and Reddit.
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19:31 • Get mentorship and ask questions.
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858: How to Go Deeper With Your Learning

Scott and Wes break down the tech behind video streaming for the web, from transcoding and variants to CDN and access control. They also share insights on tools like Mux, Cloudflare Stream, and ffmpeg, plus tips for managing bandwidth, hosting, and costs.
 Show Notes • 
00:00 • Welcome to Syntax!
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00:50 • Brought to you by 
Sentry.io • .
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01:15 • The history of video streaming.
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02:10 • How video streaming works: The Tech.
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03:54 • How video streaming works: Transcoding.
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06:37 • How video streaming works: Variants. 
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ffmpeg • .
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Wes’ R2-video-streaming • .
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 Wes’ Transcoding • .
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YT-DL • .
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YT-DLP • .
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13:13 • Dynamic ad insertion.
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14:29 • Bandwidth and hosting. 
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Mux • .
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18:03 • 
Cloudflare • .
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19:13 • The costs. 
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Wes Bos Tweet Cloudflare TOS • .
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Steve Tenuto tweet • .
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25:39 • Media players. 
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Media Chrome • .
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29:42 • CDN.
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32:04 • Access control.
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33:35 • Solutions. 
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Mux • .
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Cloudflare Stream • .
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Bunny.net Stream • 
AWS Media Convert • .
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Cloudinary • .
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Bitmovin • .
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41:55 • Some other features.
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45:47 • Sick Picks & Shameless Plugs.
 Sick Picks • Scott: 
Anker MagGo • .
 • Wes: 
PolyCapture • .
 Shameless Plugs • Scott: 
Syntax on YouTube • .
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859: Streaming Video in 2025

Wes and Scott talk with Zack Jackson about Module Federation, and the innovative ways it streamlines collaboration across large teams and complex applications. Zack also dives into simplifying microfrontends, optimizing builds with Rspack, and his work at ByteDance.
 Show Notes • 
00:00 • Welcome to Syntax!
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00:48 • Zach background and role at ByteDance
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03:10 • ByteDance’s web and native apps 
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 How ByteDance Became the World’s Most Valuable Startup • 
Lynx • 
ByteDance GitHub • 
Coze • 
Lark • 
MarsCode • 
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06:48 • What is Module Federation? 
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Zephyr Cloud • 
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15:49 • Evolution from V1 to V2 of Module Federation
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24:47 • When to consider Module Federation
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29:46 • How would you publish a utils package in Module Federation?
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32:59 • How would you do a major upgrade?
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36:36 • Brought to you by 
Sentry.io • 
37:01 • Who owns the update process?
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39:40 • Handling multiple frameworks
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42:10 • ModernJS and Meta frameworks 
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ModernJS • 
Rspress • 
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47:20 • Does ByteDance have its own JavaScript runtime? 
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NAPI • 
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50:02 • Why Zack built Rspack 
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Rspack • 
Rsbuild • 
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58:15 • The future of Rspack and custom bundlers 
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Unpack • 
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01:04:24 • Module Federation’s major features
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01:07:29 • Sick Picks & Shameless Plugs
 Shameless Plugs • Zack: 
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Zephyr Cloud • 
Midscene.js • 
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860: Module Federation Microfrontends with ByteDance’s Zack Jackson

Scott and Wes dive into the world of local data storage, breaking down the pros and cons of Sqlite, LocalStorage, SessionStorage, Cookies, and IndexedDB. They cover real-world use cases like user settings, offline data, and auth tokens, while sharing their favorite tools and strategies for keeping your data fast and secure.
 Show Notes • 
00:00 • Welcome to Syntax!
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00:30 • Brought to you by 
Sentry.io • .
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01:43 • Why store data locally. 
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01:55 • User preferences and settings.
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02:50 • Not logged in state (shopping carts, etc).
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03:30 • Data for faster loading.
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03:51 • Privacy concerns.
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04:25 • Large files or drafts.
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05:50 • Auth tokens.
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07:08 • Where to store data. 
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07:11 • Cookies.
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07:48 • Local storage.
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09:15 • Session storage.
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10:35 • 
IndexedDB • .
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12:15 • 
BYOJS Storage • .
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13:41 • SQlite via WASM.
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14:12 • Penalties of SQLite in browser via WASM.
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15:29 • 
PGLite • .
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16:23 • Dealing with migrations.
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16:55 • The advantages of the approach.
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18:42 • 
Dexie • .
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19:59 • Patch messages.
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21:25 • A few options. 
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TinyBase Docs • .
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Local First Web • .
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861: Local Data: Sqlite, LocalStorage, Session, Cookies and IndexDB

Is Svelte becoming React? Scott and Wes explore the exciting updates in Svelte 5, including Runes, Snippets, odd font choices, and performance benchmarks, while discussing custom event updates, migration tips, and potential performance gains.
 Show Notes • 
00:00 • Welcome to Syntax! 
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Scott’s Svelte5 Overview • .
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01:27 • Brought to you by 
Sentry.io • .
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02:06 • What’s new in 
Svelte 5 • ? 
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02:13 • 
Runes • . 
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04:47 • 
$state • 
07:00 • $state.snapshot
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11:47 • 
$derived • 
12:46 • $derived.by
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15:41 • 
$effect • 
17:24 • $effect.pre
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18:05 • $effect use cases.
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22:20 • 
$props • 
24:57 • 
Binding state • .
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27:15 • 
$inspect • 
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vsode-wrap-svelte • .
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28:46 • $inspect(…).with
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30:42 • 
Snippets • .
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34:22 • Events now onclick instead of on:click.
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36:09 • Custom events now just props instead of createEventDispatcher.
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36:31 • Serif Font on 
website • .
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40:01 • Performance. 
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 Benchmarks Doc • .
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Benjamin McCann Tweet • .
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46:41 • Is Svelte becoming React?
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49:21 • 
Migration • .
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51:41 • What’s next and wish list for Svelte.
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57:12 • Sick Picks & Shameless Plugs.
 Sick Picks • Scott: 
Dragon Quest 3 • .
 • Wes: 
Dresscode.dev • .
 Shameless Plugs • Scott: 
Syntax on YouTube • .
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862: Svelte 5 Is Here!

Scott and Wes look back at 2024 and share highlights from a big year for Syntax and the web dev world. They review their 2024 predictions to see what they got right (and wrong), and break down the major moments in web development from CSS improvements to AI editors and beyond.
 Show Notes • 
00:00 • Welcome to Syntax!
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01:30 • Changes to the Syntax podcast.
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05:56 • What happened this year? 
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06:07 • React.
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06:36 • Solid Start.
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07:04 • Tanstack Start.
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07:43 • Remix
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09:42 • AI Editors.
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11:53 • Vite 6.
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14:02 • Bluesky.
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19:52 • CSS.
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22:17 • What did we do? 
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22:21 • React Miami. 
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React Miami Episode • .
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22:26 • JSNation 
 Amsterdam • .
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23:55 • JSNation 
US • + React Summit.
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24:57 • 
Terminal Feud • .
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26:28 • 
Laravel + Terminal basketball game • .
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27:02 • 
Syntax San Francisco meetup • .
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27:23 • 
GitHub Universe • .
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28:07 • 
FITC • .
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28:38 • 153 Syntax Episodes + Video.
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29:32 • 
Our 2024 Predictions • Reviewed. 
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29:46 • Types in JS will have real movement.
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31:29 • Temporal API will ship in 1 browser.
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32:50 • Perf tooling gets easy for everyone to understand.
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33:29 • CSS continues to get better where you need less JS.
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34:25 • Svelte v5 is very fast.
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34:38 • The year of the server in frameworks.
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35:28 • Astro is going to have a good year.
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36:13 • React server components.
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37:03 • Remix moves away from page-based loaders, to component loaders.
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37:18 • Hono will become more ubiquitous.
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38:28 • We will see a route matching Proposal move ahead.
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39:23 • Bun releases full node compat.
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40:42 • We will see a new Linter + formatter entirely replace.
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42:16 • New TypeScript typechecker. 
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Ezno • .
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43:40 • Lightning CSS pops - or does it?
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45:10 • You’ll hear more about Rspack and Turbopack.
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45:51 • Vite isn’t going to release anything big in 2024.
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46:24 • Relative color will land in all major browsers.
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48:14 • CSS contrast-color will land in chrome.
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48:48 • Scroll animation landing in 2 browsers.
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50:03 • The year of CSS discovery.
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51:09 • Safari will Ship 3 missing PWA Support.
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52:11 • Firefox usage will continue to slip.
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56:53 • Paid Arc features.
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57:14 • More XR web experiences as Apple releases in Vision Pro.
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59:55 • AI Tooling.
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01:00:57 • Small Models that run in the browser.
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01:01:38 • Apps get Sherlocked by OpenAI.
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01:02:04 • On prem corporate AI.
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01:04:49 • Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs.
 Sick Picks • Scott: 
TCGPocket App • .
 • Wes: Huge Bag of Croc Charms
 Shameless Plugs • Scott: 
Syntax on YouTube • .
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863: 2024: A Year in Review

Scott and Wes ring in the new year, answering listener questions on the rise of durable objects, handling tricky tab state in e-commerce apps, and their top picks for headless CMS. They also chat about the future of CSS, deployment platforms, and whether Syntax beanies might finally be a thing!
 Show Notes • 
00:00 • Welcome to Syntax!
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00:52 • Brought to you by 
Sentry.io • .
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03:10 • What Are Durable Objects?
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08:25 • CSS Anchor Positioning: Cross-Browser Support Update. 
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Implement CSS Anchor Positioning • .
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12:48 • Freelancers: UX and Design Skills vs. Functional Expertise.
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16:47 • Choosing the Best Deployment Platform. 
 • 
 Syntax Episode 615 • .
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20:49 • Making Websites WCAG Compliant. 
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Polypane • .
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22:35 • Managing Tab State in Complex Apps.
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28:43 • Will CSS Ever Be Complete?
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33:21 • When Will Syntax Beanies Drop? 
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Syntax Swag Store • .
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35:21 • The Best Headless CMS for a Tech Blog.
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42:15 • From Many Packages to Monolithic Frameworks.
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46:41 • Sick Picks + Shameless Plugs.
 Sick Picks • Scott: 
 The Sheet with Jeff Marek • .
 • Wes: 
28” 4K+ BenQ Programming Monitor • .
 Shameless Plugs • Scott: 
Syntax on YouTube • .
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864: Durable Objects × Tab State Hacks × Headless CMS Choices + More

Scott and Wes challenge each other’s knowledge on everything from array sorting quirks to browser isolation types in a rapid-fire trivia format. They dive deep into performance optimizations, TypeScript type safety, and HTML best practices while uncovering surprising edge cases that every web developer should know about.
 Show Notes • 
00:00 • Welcome to Syntax!
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00:43 • Brought to you by 
Sentry.io • .
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01:23 • Question 1: Array Sort Default Behavior.
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03:24 • Question 2: Splitting Into Individual Words & Characters.
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06:06 • Question 3: NodeJS Stream Backpressure.
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09:07 • Question 4: Custom Middleware Rate Limiting.
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13:00 • Question 5: Transform Function Property Changes.
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15:18 • Question 6: TranslateZ & Will-Change Performance.
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17:52 • Question 7: Table Structure Best Practices.
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20:23 • Question 8: Dialog vs Div with Dialog Role.
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23:21 • Question 9: TypeScript Unknown vs Any & Never.
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26:31 • Question 10: Response Type Safety in TypeScript.
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29:48 • Question 11: Browser Isolation Types.
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32:54 • Question 12: HTML Quirks Mode Behavior.
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