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This podcast will take you on a smart, direct, sometimes scary, sometimes profane, sometimes hilarious tour of the inner workings of American power and of the impact of our leaders and their policies on our standing in the world. Hosted by noted author and commentator David Rothkopf and featuring regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Kori Schake of AEI, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, the program will be the lively, smart dinner table conversation on the big issues of the day that you wish you were having...without the calories. Sometimes special guests will join the conversation and always the emphasis will be on providing the unvarnished perspectives others shy away from. Deep State Radio is the insider perspective on American national security and foreign policy that you can't find anywhere else.

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When it comes to peace in Gaza, the art of the deal might be a lost one. While reaching a ceasefire is a commendable, we have to wonder what the remaining 19 points in Trump’s 20 point plan will actually look like. Experts Kim Ghattas and Shibley Telhami join David Rothkopf to express their skepticism over the long-term implications of the ceasefire in Gaza and why nefarious actors in the region aren’t likely to grow a conscience any time soon. 
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When Is a Peace Deal Not a Peace Deal?

Make no mistake: the rule of law in America is under assault. The administration is brazenly testing — and breaking — the limits of our democracy. So how can we save our democracy before it’s too late? Barbara McQuade joins David Rothkopf to discuss solutions for our current crisis and more. 
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NTK: Can the Rule of Law in America Be Saved?

In this episode, we talk to Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, who shares striking new details about President Trump’s ongoing occupation of Chicago. What’s happening there has really gone off the rails: ICE launching hypermilitarized raids of apartment buildings. Children getting pulled out into the streets and potentially traumatized. A priest shot in the head by a pepper ball. This has led Pritzker to take a lead role in denouncing Trump’s abuses of power—and in warning that our slide into authoritarianism could end in catastrophe. In our interview, Pritzker tells us what he’d like to see from Democrats, discusses how Illinois law enforcement is protecting local residents from ICE, and debunks Stephen Miller’s lies about what’s happening on the ground. Pritzker also discusses his inability to even get Trump officials on the phone amid this worsening crisis—making this all look dramatically more dangerous—and warns that Trump’s mental state is worsening fast. 

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The Daily Blast: Trump ICE Raids Take Scarier Turn as Pritzker Issues Bombshell Warning

A ceasefire has finally been reached in Gaza. Now that Israel and Hamas have finally reached a deal that will see hostages returned and fighting ceased, the hard work of lasting peace really begins. In the first of two emergency podcasts taking a deep dive into the Gaza Ceasefire, Alon Pinkas and Steven Cook join David Rothkopf and dive into the important points of the plan and what Donald Trump, Benjamin Netanyahu, and Hamas leaders are really hoping to gain. 
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Celebrate the Gaza Ceasefire—Now for the Hard Part

On the DSR Daily for Thursday, we discuss Israel and Hamas reaching a ceasefire, James Comey pleading not guilty on two counts of lying to Congress, FBI agents being diverted to immigration enforcement, and more. 
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DSR Daily October 9: Israel and Hamas Reach Ceasefire

Representative Adam Smith, the ranking member on the House Armed Services Committee, joins host David Rothkopf to discuss recent important developments in the Middle East, the president's "ridiculous" Quantico speech to military leaders, the future of US national security, and how to get Americans to come together to stop the push toward authoritarianism in the U.S. 

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NTK: Breaking News: A Senior Congressional Dem With a Clear Plan to Win at Home and Abroad

President Trump’s efforts to prosecute his enemies are suddenly looking even more lawless. Leaks to ABC News just revealed that Justice Department insiders doubt the validity of the prosecution of former FBI director James Comey. This comes after inside sources told MSNBC that a senior prosecutor is resisting indicting New York attorney general Letitia James because the case against her is so weak. Trump is demanding prosecutions of both, and the bucking of his pressure reveals just how corrupt his directives truly are. Meanwhile, Trump just called for the jailing of the governor of Illinois. We talked about all this with former federal prosecutor Kristy Parker, counsel at Protect Democracy. She explains why Trump’s prosecutions are so baseless, what we can read into the resistance inside DOJ, and how it might slow our slide into lawlessness. 
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The Daily Blast: Trump Threats to Jail Foes Take Darker Turn amid Damning New DOJ Leaks

It’s Extreme Make-Over: Military Edition here in the United States. But Trump doesn’t just have a fresh coat of paint in mind — he’s trying to change the rules for how and where our armed forces operate. Friends and experts Rosa Brooks, David Sanger, and Kori Schake join David Rothkopf to shine a light on the nefarious actions of this administration and why the fallout could be calamitous. 
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Trump's Military Make-Over Has Experts Worried and Enemies Celebrating

"When they go low, we go high" is officially dead—and David Rothkopf and Norm Ornstein are here to unleash a scathing critique of the Democratic Party's refusal to fight back. We need to ask: how do Democrats confront the "fuck around and find out" economy, quadrupled healthcare costs, the National Guard invasions, and finally make the Republican Party pay for their blatant disregard for our democracy?

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Words Matter: The Big Reason Trump and MAGA Must Be Held to Account

On the DSR Daily, we break down Pam Bondi’s combative Senate hearing, local politicians clashing with the administration over National Guard deployments, the Israeli military intercepting another Gaza-bound flotilla, and more. 
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DSR Daily October 8: Pam Bondi’s Fiery Hearing

The New York Times reports that Donald Trump is telling advisers that his biggest regret from his first term was that he appointed “traitors.” As a result, his transition team is grilling prospective nominees to gauge their loyalty to Trump. Is there some way for Democrats to drive home how dangerous all this is? We chatted with Brian Beutler, author of the excellent Substack Off Message. He argues that even as Trump’s second-term plans are getting more overtly dangerous to the rule of law, Democrats need to do a lot more to alert the public to what’s coming—not just because it’s good politics, but because the country needs it.
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The Daily Blast: Trump’s Angry New Attacks on “Traitors” Show 2025 Plans Getting Darker

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