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Celebrating 10 years of Recruiting Future!

Over the last 10 years, I’ve interviewed hundreds of TA Leaders as well as CEOs, thought leaders, and the people building the technology that drives the industry forward.

Back in 2015, we thought the pace of change was super fast and that the level of disruption was off the scale with social and mobile technologies reshaping how we communicated. In some ways, we might think it was impossible back then to imagine the world we live in now, but many of the changes we see in TA today have been in the works for a long time.

The speed of change in talent acquisition is governed by the tension between organizational inertia, which slows things down, and external events like the pandemic, which can cause things to move at lightning-fast speeds.

The Generative AI revolution is most definitely in the latter category. We are on the cusp of the most significant changes to TA and recruiting we have ever seen.

So, as a TA Leader, how do you manage that change and make sure you and your organization are fit for the future?

Over the last few months, I’ve been using the power of AI to unlock the Recruiting Future archive and model the mindset and behaviours of the most successful TA leaders that I’ve interviewed. People who have changed how their organizations think about talent, who thrive on disruption as a catalyst for positive change, and who know how to use technology to enable their vision.

These leaders all have four things in common. They use foresight to understand and shape the future, they build influence with the most senior stakeholders in their organisation, they think different to create innovative talent strategies and they use the impact of new technologies to accelerate change.

Foresight, Influence, Talent and Technology = Fitt

This episode features clips from interviews with two TA leaders, two CHROs, a Behavioural Scientist, and a Futurist talking about these four key areas and what you and your teams can do to be fit for the future.

Featuring:

 
Laszlo Bock, former CHRO at Google, on skills

 
Lisa Montieth, Head of TA UK at HSBC on foresight

 
Lyndsey Taylor, Global Head of HR Transformation at Brooks Automation, on influence

 
Rory Sutherland, Vice Chair at Ogilivy UK, on talent

 
Laura Coccaro, Chief People Officer at iCIMS on technology

 
Kevin Wheeler, Future Of Talent Institute, on job displacement

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Ep 700: Are You Fit For The Future?

It has been an extraordinary year for technology. We can all broadly agree that the effect of generative AI will be transformational for talent acquisition, but how can we separate the hype from the reality to know where to focus in the short term and how to plan for a much-changed future?

With so much noise and minimal signal in the discussion about AI, I thought the best way to get a grip on everything was to talk to a genuine AI thought leader.

My guest this week is Jon Krohn, host of the SuperDataScience Podcast, Best Selling Author, and Chief Data Scientist at TA start-up Nebula. Jon was on the show back in 2019 and gave us a primer on AI that was so good people are still listening to now. This time, he is doing a deep dive into generative AI, giving us some history, explaining the current reality, and outlining the radical potential for the future.

This conversation was eye-opening for me, and it is a compulsory listen for everyone working in Talent Acquisition.

In the interview, we discuss:

Developments in AI over the last three years

Hype v Impact

The development of the transformer architecture that facilitates ChatGPT

Why the jump from ChatGPT 3.5 to ChatGPT 4 was incredibly significant

Is artificial general intelligence possible in our lifetimes?

Other notable examples of Large Language Models

The immediate implications for Talent Acquisition

How LLMs will supercharge vendor innovation

The importance of TA Leaders embracing AI

Are we heading towards a utopia or a dystopia?

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Ep 547: Generative AI - A Deep Dive

Welcome back to HR's Most Dangerous Podcast, where Chad and Joel serve up spicy takes and recruiting truths hotter than a Nashville summer. This week, they wrangle Courtney Dempsey, the tech-savvy maestro behind Southern Rock Restaurants’ hiring empire. With 160 restaurants and a hiring strategy sharper than a deli slicer, Courtney spills the secret sauce: targeting job seekers while the rest of us are dreaming about tacos at 3 AM.
Hear how she uses LLMs like they’re her personal AI attack dogs, outsmarts bigger competitors with zero chill, and recruits AARP members because, frankly, Gen Z already got their fill of side hustles. If you’re not advertising your dishwashing gigs like prime-time Super Bowl spots, you’re doing it wrong.
So, grab your headphones and brace yourself. By the end, you’ll either want to revolutionize your hiring strategy or question all your life choices... possibly both. And remember, in this game, speed kills. But in HR? It also hires.
Warning: Side effects of listening include spontaneous outbursts of laughter, strategic epiphanies, and reconsidering your entire recruitment budget. Proceed with caution.

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Targeting Candidates with AI and LLMs

From the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Julie Sowash, executive director of Disability Solutions, survived Chad & Cheese’s snarkapalooza to talk AI ethics, data transparency, and why hiring underrepresented talent is more than a checkbox exercise. She preached the gospel of blending tech with human connection (shocking, we know) and reminded companies that “diversity commitment” isn’t code for “nice press release.”
Julie also spilled on how 2024’s economic rollercoaster crushed some dreams but made strategic DEI even more essential. Oh, and she managed to keep things heartfelt, even shouting out her co-host/husband, Chad — proving love can survive even that much sarcasm.

Navigating DEI's Shifting Landscape in Recruitment

AI has profoundly impacted talent acquisition in 2024, but its influence has been far from uniform. In some areas, little has changed, while in others—such as high-volume hiring—there has been nothing short of a revolution. Automation has dramatically accelerated recruiting processes, improving the candidate and hiring manager experience in ways previously unimaginable. These advancements are signals of what's to come, with sweeping changes across talent acquisition potentially just months away.

With technology increasingly automating processes, the role of recruiters is evolving, raising urgent questions about what TA teams must do to stay relevant and strategic. Those who fail to adapt risk being left behind as automation reshapes our industry.

So, how can TA leaders and recruiters navigate this transformation, address challenges like bias, and embrace the opportunities AI presents to redefine their roles?

My guest this week is John Vlastelica, CEO of Recruiting Toolbox and a trusted advisor to some of the world's most innovative companies. John shares his insights on the key shifts happening in recruiting, the evolving role of recruiters, and how leaders can future-proof their teams in an AI-driven world.

In the interview, we discuss:

How AI is impacting recruiting right now

How does it change the jobs we recruit for?

Unchecked human bias in traditional recruiting process

Automation in high-volume and front-line hiring

Segmentation of roles between automated and high-touch recruiting processes

Inefficiency by design

From talent acquisition to talent advisor, breaking the silos in HR

Insights, Influence, and Impact

Candidate "cheating"

TA Tech vendors selling directly to the C-Suite

The importance of having a plan to rationalize TA

What is going to happen in 2025?

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Ep 660: Recruiting Rewired by AI

In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel and Chad discuss a variety of topics ranging from personal anecdotes about pets and sleep deprivation to the unsettling news about drones in New Jersey. They delve into the implications of workplace stress and corporate responses, highlighting a controversial case of a company firing employees due to stress. The conversation shifts to the role of AI in recruitment and marketing, followed by a light-hearted update on their fantasy football league. Finally, they explore the impact of AI in education, particularly through the Khanmigo platform, which aims to assist teachers and personalize learning for students. In this conversation, the hosts explore various themes including the historical perspectives on controversial figures, the impact of AI on job markets, the challenges of hiring practices, the future of nuclear energy, and the uncertain future of TikTok in America. They discuss how AI is reshaping narratives and job searches, the importance of soft skills in hiring, and the potential of nuclear energy to meet rising energy demands. The conversation also touches on the political and economic implications surrounding TikTok's future in the U.S.

Chapters
00:00 - Introduction and Personal Anecdotes
03:07 - Drones and Warfare: A New Era
06:01 - Workplace Stress and Corporate Responses
09:04 - AI in Recruitment and Marketing
12:03 - Fantasy Football Update
14:47 - AI in Education: Khanmigo's Impact
20:49 - Historical Perspectives on Controversial Figures
22:00 - AI and Historical Narratives
22:42 - Job Market Innovations and Challenges
27:46 - Evaluating Soft Skills in Hiring
33:58 - The Future of Nuclear Energy
41:04 - The Uncertain Future of TikTok in America

Meta, Microsoft, and Google Go Nuclear

The adoption of AI in talent acquisition continues to accelerate, promising efficiencies and new possibilities for hiring. However, as AI tools become central to recruiting processes, they bring significant challenges, particularly around bias, compliance, and trust. Without clear oversight, these systems risk entrenching inequalities rather than addressing them.

So, how can talent acquisition leaders ensure that AI supports fairer hiring while safeguarding compliance and trust? And what role does auditing play in this critical process?

My guest this week is Jeff Pole, Co-founder and CEO of Warden AI, a company specializing in AI auditing for HR and TA Technologies. In our conversation, Jeff shares his insights on the importance of auditing AI systems, the emerging regulatory landscape, and how talent acquisition leaders can better understand and navigate the risks and opportunities of AI-powered hiring.

In the interview, we discuss:

Is the current pace of innovation in AI set to continue?

What are the main risks?

Regulation, Legislation, and Ethics

Is there a difference between AI influencing a hiring decision and AI making a hiring decision?

How AI can be less biased and fairer than humans

Holding machines to a higher standard than humans

Shining a light on the AI systems used in recruiting and TA technology

Continuous testing and monitoring

How widespread is the issue, and how much AI bias has actually been found?

What should TA leaders be considering when assessing AI solutions

What does the future look like? How will AI change talent acquisition in the long term?

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Ep 661: Auditing AI For Fairer Hiring

In this episode of The Chad and Cheese podcast, Noelle London, founder and CEO of Illoominus, discusses her AI-powered people intelligence platform designed to integrate and analyze HR data. She shares insights on the challenges of dirty data, the importance of strategic partnerships, and the competitive landscape in HR technology. The conversation also covers funding strategies, the role of Techstars, and how Illoominus aims to provide actionable insights for HR leaders to make informed decisions.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Illoominus and Noelle London
03:36 Pitching Illuminus: The AI-Powered People Intelligence Platform
08:10 Funding and Growth: Navigating the Financial Landscape
12:35 Understanding the HR Tech Landscape and Leadership
14:31 Data Integration: The Key to Effective HR Solutions
17:02 Competition in the HR Tech Space
20:43 Sales and Marketing Strategies for Growth
24:11 Defining Quality of Hire: A Complex Challenge
26:30 Direct Sales vs. Partnerships: Future Strategies
28:59 Identifying Threats and Opportunities in the Market
31:32 Facing the Firing Squad: Final Thoughts and Insights

Firing Squad Illoominus' Noelle London

Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Chad & Cheese corner Audra Knight, the employer branding wizard at Foundation Medicine, to spill the tea on how companies can stop being boring and actually build a brand people care about. Audra preaches the gospel of internal communications, because apparently, it’s not enough to just have a logo and a “We’re Hiring!” post on LinkedIn.
She dishes on the art of getting your employees to share their stories without bribing them (much), making your company seem like a place where people want to work—not just survive. Audra also marvels at the endless buffet of fancy branding tools out there, hinting that maybe picking the right ones is better than throwing spaghetti at the wall.
Her secret sauce? Tailoring messages to different roles like a personal shopper for job seekers. Oh, and she’s not here for performative diversity—she’s all about the real deal. Because in employer branding, authenticity isn’t just a buzzword—it’s the only thing standing between you and a talent drought.

Using Internal Comms to Shape Employer Brands

The rapid evolution of AI is reshaping talent acquisition, but many TA teams are struggling to keep pace. While AI offers the potential to revolutionize processes, reduce friction, and improve candidate experiences, adoption rates remain low. At the same time, businesses are under pressure to boost productivity and efficiency, leaving TA teams vulnerable to being left behind—or worse, having changes imposed on them without their input.

So, how can talent acquisition leaders embrace AI and use it to align themselves with broader corporate objectives?

My guest this week is Adam Godson, CEO of Paradox, a pioneer in conversational AI for talent acquisition. Adam shares valuable insights from working with industry leaders like McDonald’s and Chipotle, exploring how AI is transforming recruitment at scale. He discusses how TA leaders can harness AI to future-proof their organizations, deliver tangible ROI, and create hiring systems that prioritize speed, efficiency, and better candidate experiences.

In the interview, we discuss:

Developments over the last 12 months

What are employers who use conversational AI for hiring achieving?

How McDonalds reduce time to hire from 21 days to 3 days

How AI is massively improving the candidate experience

The use of AI in high-volume hiring gives us a glimpse into the future.

AI adoption is being driven by its impact on the bottom line.

The importance of good system and experience design

What will TA teams of the future look like?

The challenge of challenging recruiting norms

The opportunity for TA Leaders

What is going to happen in 2025

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Ep 662: Talent Acquisition On The Brink

At the end of this conversation, you'll know why I was excited to speak to Operations Director, Kay Epps, after Michael Goldberg kindly made the introduction. 
Kay talks about 'loving the bricks', working in a white male-dominated industry, and the resilience it took to secure the career she loves - a great lesson for today's new grads! Plus why it's important to have a coach & support network.
We went into depth about the impact of the social justice events of 2020 & why this time it is creating the difficult conversations & investment that is needed in DEI. And belonging!
She recommended Motivation by Daniel Pink and praised Atlassian for 'getting' motivation and the impact of Aubrey Blanche. She shared what it was like to receive an apology from her Executive, and why he was initially inactive; totally inspiring! We also chatted about shared responsibility and that we must get comfortable with uncomfortable conversations.
And as for Kay's tips for hiring leaders & recruiters, grab a pen! ✍🏻
 
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Ep. 6: Kay Epps - Shared Responsibility

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