The New Music Business with Ari Herstand

How Outside Lands Music Festival Keeps Its MagicThis week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Rick Farman. Farman is an experienced entrepreneur, co-founder, and executive at Superfly, the event production company behind Bonnaroo and San Francisco’s Outside Lands Music & Arts Festival. With roots dating back to Superfly’s founding in 1996, Farman has overseen event operations, business development, and strategic partnerships that have shaped some of the country’s most iconic festivals . As a key architect of Outside Lands since its launch in 2008, he helped build the festival’s signature blend of music, sustainability, and Bay Area culture, emphasizing local food, art, and ecological responsibility. A holder of a BA in anthropology from Tulane University, Farman splits his time between overseeing Superfly’s expanding portfolio and investing in emerging companies across wellness, tech, and entertainment. Ari and Rick delve into the intricacies of festival creation, exploring everything from the art of booking talent to designing immersive, multidimensional experiences that go far beyond the music. Rick shares valuable insights into the business side of running large-scale events, including sponsorship, logistics, and long-term brand building. He also emphasizes the importance of fostering community, highlighting how festivals can serve as cultural touchstones. Throughout the conversation, Rick reflects on how the festival landscape has evolved over the years, shaped by shifts in technology, audience expectations, and the growing demand for authenticity and purpose-driven programming. 00:00 Introduction – Ari introduces Rick Farman and his festival background. 02:15 Origins of Outside Lands – Rick shares how the festival began and its San Francisco roots. 10:30 Booking Artists – How lineups are built and talent is curated. 20:45 Festival Business – The economics of festivals and artist compensation. 30:00 Immersive Experiences – Rick on designing interactive festival environments. 40:15 Bonnaroo’s Evolution – The rise of Bonnaroo and its industry impact 50:00 Music & Community – Why building community is essential in music today. 55:30 Conclusion – Final thoughts on success in the modern music business. https://sfoutsidelands.com/ Edited and mixed by Peter Schrupp Music by Brassroots District Produced by the team at Ari’s Take Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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How This Artist Manager Deepens the Fan Relationship and Prioritizes Mental HealthThis week on the New Music Business podcast, Ari sits down with Jaclyn O’Connell, a digital marketer, creative strategist, artist manager, and founder of Bittersweet Media and Good Grief Management. Jaclyn has provided creative marketing solutions and hands-on artist management for artists and labels of all scales and sizes—from emerging artists to well-established acts and both indie and major labels. They have supported gold and platinum records and worked with artists including Wild Rivers, Cavetown, Julian Baker, and Cold War Kids. Drawing on experience in both marketing and artist management, Jaclyn offers a sharp, insider perspective on what it truly takes to build a sustainable career in today’s music industry. In this episode, Ari and Jaclyn dive deep into the realities of modern music marketing — from navigating ever-shifting social media algorithms to building effective fan funnels that turn casual listeners into ticket buyers and lifelong fans. They also unpack the current touring landscape, direct support deals, and the hot-button issue of tour buy-ons. Whether you're an artist, manager, or just curious about how fan engagement really works, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss. http://instagram.com/jaclyn_oconnell Chapters 00:00 Building Direct Relationships with Fans 03:09 Navigating the Social Media Landscape 05:49 The Importance of Mental Health in Artist Management 09:05 Innovative Monetization Strategies for Artists 11:55 The Role of Community in Artist Growth 14:58 Understanding the Fan Journey 18:05 Challenges in Touring for Emerging Artists 21:03 The Evolution of the Live Music Industry 36:21 The Ethics of Tour Buy-Ons 39:09 Navigating the Challenges of Touring 43:05 Building Artist Relationships and Mental Health 46:04 Defining Success in Artist Campaigns 48:02 The Role of Social Media in Driving Streams 51:01 The Nuances of Going Viral 55:29 The Fragmentation of Viral Success 57:23 Conversations with Labels and Ownership 01:01:23 Balancing Management and Business 01:10:25 Setting Boundaries in Artist Management Edited and mixed by Ari Davids Music by Brassroots District Produced by the team at Ari’s Take Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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