#136 Complexity & Complicatedness - Sam Spurlin on playing hockey, why he quit teaching, studying at Claremont, leaving a PhD program, working pro bono too start his career, complicated vs complex systems, how to deal with ego in organizations, remote work failures, podcasting with his brother, and the importance of a retrospective meeting

Sam is a partner at The Ready - an organizational design consultancy operating fully remotely. He is also a prolific writer, passionate about personal development, self-managing organizations and adopting a more human, adaptive, and meaningful way of working.

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⌛TIMESTAMPS

• (00:53) - The scripts that Sam grew up with

• (10:29) - Teaching and why Sam quit

• (17:30) - Claremont and letting go of the PhD

• (26:09) - Working pro bono to become a consultant

• (31:46) - Complicated vs complex systems, ego in the organizations

• (54:09) - Writing, podcasting, farming and retrospective meetings

• (01:02:22) - The trap of a "dream job"

• (01:05:47) - Closing remarks

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