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Unholy Media

Yonit Levi of Israel's Channel 12 News and Jonathan Freedland of The Guardian are two of the most prominent journalists in the world today. They are also Jews. Each week, join what MSNBC's Rachel Maddow calls "two great, smart smart smart hosts" as they dissect and debate current events shaping Israel, Jewish life - and the wider world.
Their blend of nuanced discussion and sparkling conversation, featuring a dazzling range of guests, is why New Yorker editor David Remnick calls himself a “proud, avid listener," why Ira Glass says he "completely enjoys this show" and why Malcolm Gladwell calls it an "incredibly fun podcast".
For a weekly fix of globally informed talk – including nominations for the greatest act of chutzpah and outstanding mensch of the previous seven days – there’s only one destination. Make every Friday morning Unholy. 
Contact us via: unholy@unholy-media.com

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

As Israel mourns the return of four hostage bodies, pressure mounts ahead of negotiations for the next stage of the deal. Meanwhile, Donald Trump lays out his vision for Gaza in a bizarre, AI-generated video. At the same time, new IDF investigations into October 7th reveal years of misreading Hamas, leaving southern Israel dangerously exposed.

Yonit and Jonathan speak with Ahmed Fouad Al-Khatib, an expert on Hamas, to understand what Gazans really want—and how perceptions on the ground differ vastly from those imagined in Tel Aviv or New York.

Plus: a literary Chutzpah and a stardust Mensch.

 

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Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib is a Palestinian American humanitarian activist, writer, and policy analyst specializing in Gaza’s political and humanitarian affairs. Born in Saudi Arabia to Palestinian parents from Rafah’s Al-Shaboura refugee camp, his family later returned to Gaza, where he survived an Israeli airstrike at age 11, causing permanent hearing loss. After participating in a U.S. State Department exchange program, he sought asylum in the U.S., earning degrees in business administration and intelligence studies. He is the founder of Project Unified Assistance, advocating for a UN-operated humanitarian airport in Gaza, and a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council. His work has appeared in The Atlantic, The Forward, Haaretz, and The Wall Street Journal, among others. Despite losing 31 family members in Gaza since October 7, 2024, Alkhatib remains committed to advocating for peace and coexistence between Palestinians and Israelis.

Handle the Truth - with Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib

Yonit and Jonathan take stock of a momentous week in the Middle East, breaking down the fall of the Assad regime with US foreign policy veteran Richard Haass - and taking a deep dive into the court appearance of Benjamin Netanyahu with Alexis Bloom, director of The Bibi Files, an acclaimed documentary which lifts the lid on the corruption charges facing the prime minister. Plus - a sporting flavour to both of this week’s chutzpah and mensch awards.
 
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The Road from Damascus - with Richard Haass and Alexis Bloom

Increased speculation on a hostage/ceasefire deal, a disturbing account of alleged IDF misconduct in Gaza and the fallout of two shocking attacks on synagogues in Montreal and Melbourne. Plus: a conversation that ranges from Damascus to Limerick and all points in between with historian Simon Sebag Montefiore. Finally Yonit and Jonathan salute a French heroine - and decry the Syrian prisoner who never was.

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Time and time again - with Simon Sebag Montefiore

As the hostages held by Gaza spend their second Chanukah as captives of Hamas, Israel’s attorney general delivers a political bombshell — opening an investigation into Sara Netanyahu following revelations of her role in the attacks by Israel’s first family against its enemies. Yonit and Jonathan discuss all that and mark the start of Chanukah by looking for some light in the gloom, seeking out some reasons to be hopeful for 2025.

 

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Points of Light

The resignation of former defense minister Yoav gallant and the death of an American president -- Yonit and Jonathan discuss the fallout of Yoav Gallant's exit from the Knesset and the passing of Jimmy Carter, who stayed engaged with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict for more than five decades. Plus: they speak with Suzanne Maloney, one of the world's foremost analysts of Iran and the Middle East on what 2025 might hold. They also salute a veteran of Jewish journalism, while a chutzpah award is on its way to the English seaside. 

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25 is the new 24 - with Suzanne Maloney

In an in-depth interview, Yonit and Jonathan talk to Gen David Petraeus, the former Director of the CIA and onetime head of US Central Command about both his admiration for Israel's military successes against Iran and Hizbollah - and his concerns about its war in Gaza. Plus: the wait for a hostage deal goes on and on, the region braces for the second coming of Donald Trump - and a very specific reason why you need to see When Harry Met Sally.

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The General's plan - with David Petraeus

After 15 long and terrible months, a deal is agreed that should bring the hostages home and end the fighting in Gaza. How did it come about, who and what made it possible and how will it play out - Yonit and Jonathan get into it all, and explore the background and the implications of a breakthrough moment with military analyst Amos Harel. Plus: those who emerge from this extraordinary week with great credit, and those guilty of outrageous chutzpah.

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The Deal - with Amos Harel

As the Gaza ceasefire and hostage release deal unfolds, bringing home three women held by Hamas for 471 days, Yonit and Jonathan talk about the profound joy felt in Israel at seeing their return, and the politics - and trepidation - that surround the next moves.

 

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Special update - three are free

An American president is sworn in, an IDF chief of staff quits and Israel waits for a second group of hostages to be freed. Yonit and Jonathan take a deep dive into a dramatic week – and have no trouble at all in identifying what Elon Musk was doing with his arm.

 

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Déjà vu all over again

This week, Yonit is joined by CNN anchor and global affairs analyst Bianna Golodryga, as scenes of joy and relief unfold with the return of seven more hostages. With another three set to be released on Saturday, they discuss the week’s key developments and speak with Dr. Einat Yehene, Head of the Rehabilitation Division at the Hostages Families Forum. Together, they examine the short and long-term effects of captivity on the released hostages—and on an entire nation.

 

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Home Again - with special guest co-host Bianna Golodryga and Dr. Einat Yehene

A daytime gunfight in Jenin, a deadly terror attack that left four dead and an outbreak of settler violence - this week has put the spotlight back on the West Bank. As Israel considers further action to bring calm, domestic politics are never far away - including the government’s plan to transform the judiciary. Yonit and Jonathan discuss the security situation and Benjamin Netanyahu’s renewed pledge to move ahead with the reform.
 
Plus: a special conversation with theater legend Sir Nicholas Hytner, the award-winning director behind some of the most successful shows in stage history. The Tony Award winner shares insights from a decades-long career - and explains why the Broadway musical is an intensely Jewish art form. 
 
And we have a chutzpah award to make the jaw drop - along with a mensch award to a university that took its time. 
 
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Two Jews or Not Two Jews - with Sir Nicholas Hytner

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