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Casey Liss

John Siracusa

Marco Arment

Accidental Tech Podcast

• Pre-show: Casey has a giggle about central Virginia snow

 • Follow-up: 

Apple Fitness+ • is 
doing better than the Mac Pro • 

Workout Buddy
Previously with Jay Blahnik

 • More adventures with 
Cloudflare • 

jramskov’s observation
TLS Certificate lifetimes
 • Alternatively, 
GitHub Pages
 • Some thoughts from an anonymous Cloudflare employee 

Workers
Pages
R2
KV
Durable Objects

Oops… we broke it • 

Landon’s observation
5 December Outage • 

React.js vulnerability

 • Say my name, Siri! 

Siri response preferences • (via Jonathan Gulbrandsen) 

Screenshot

 • AirPods and Contacts (via Oren Idan)

 • We’re… uh… sorry. Our bad. 

Sean Santry
Reid Sorenson

 • iOS 26 rollout 📈 

Underscore on 20 November
Underscore on 8 December

 • Intel 🤝 Apple Commentary 

Tambourine Man
David Beck
Goffredo Marocchi • 

Previously on ATP
Srouji’s comments (timestamp link to 34m26s)
Maybe Intel will just do packaging?

Maybe iPhone chips too?

 • Gruber is… 
not a fan… of Alan Dye • 

Dye Was in Tim Cook’s Blind Spot

Apple’s revolving door keeps spinning • 

 • An anonymous observation

Gurman, 6 December
Gurman, 8 December
Gurman’s departing executive tracker image

 • Post-show: 

 • Messages conversation merging

 • A feature request

Members-only • ATP Overtime: 
Apple Watch & Mac mini are no longer advertised as “carbon neutral” • 

Apple 2030
Apple commits to 100% carbon neutrality for supply chain & products by 2030 • (21 July 2020)

Carbon removal & offsets

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669: Ternus, Take the Wheel

• Pre-show: Marco has a 
new toy
 • Follow-up: 

Vision Pro Light Seal sizes decoded • 

Vision Pro Size Help tool

JPEG XL • lives… 
in PDF • 

Chromium ticket
jxl-rs: JPEG XL in Rust

 • Chapter links in Apple Podcasts 

Stephen Robles • on 
The Talk Show
Apple documentation
ATP on Threads

Malicious content delivery on Podcasts.app? • 

404 Media article

 • Everybody is leaving Apple 

John Giannandrea to retire from Apple • 

Amar Subramanya’s first-week experience at Microsoft

Alan Dye poached by Meta • 

Jason’s take

Cloudflare’s 18 November Outage • 

Cloudflare
Lets Encrypt
Hypercritical
Callsheet

 • Ask ATP: 

 • Why can’t Siri pronounce names correctly? (via 
Tony West • ) 

serra queue sah
Siri, what’s my full name

 • Post-show: 

 • What now, bagel snobs? 

BagelFest
Baltik’s Bagel: People’s Choice award
Baltik’s Bagel
Coverage from the NY metro area

Bullstrap Minimalist Case

Members-only • ATP Overtime: 
Apple 🤝 Intel? • 

Intel 18A vs. TSMC N2
MTr/mm²

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668: So Happy for All Parties Involved

• Pre-show: Marco bought a new toy 

ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It II
Bryan’s toot • 

pen.tips
Paperlike 3
Paperlike Pencil Tips

 • Follow-up: 

 • macOS Tahoe 26.2 β3 seems to fix Electon slowdown (per 
shamelectron • )

Gurman says “not so fast, my friend”
 • Gaming in ARM 

 • Anti-cheat complications (via 
Tyler • )

 • Windows 11 on ARM (via David Gaw)

OpenAI Egg update • 

Interview video
Fred T

Apple N1 > Broadcom
 • An iPhone camera cluster theory

The UK is still trying to make fetch happen get themselves a back door • 

Financial Times

Apple Fitness+ is “Under Review”
Fast charging & battery health • 

Juli Clover summary @ MacRumors

 • Ask ATP: 

 • Now that Marco owns a restaurant, does he tip differently? (via Max Velasco Knott)

 • What do we think about third-party packages? (via Eric Jacobsen) 

swift-collections
swift-async-algorithms
CPAN
Flow

 • Is organizing 
/Applications • a poor choice? (via Nathan)

 • Are our kids better than we are at video games yet? (via Omri Arbiv) 

Ultimate Chicken Horse
SongPop Party
UltraKill
Universal Paperclips
Cookie Clicker

 • Post-show: The saga of Overcast episode images 

Core Intuition
Linode Object Storage
CloudFlare R2

Members-only • ATP Overtime: Should we ever be 
forced • to put away our phones? (via Philip McDermott)

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667: Wisdom and Treachery

• 🗣️ New 
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ATP Diamond Dogs: Talk Me Out of It • — 16 October 2023

 • Follow-up: 

 • The origin of “diamond dogs” (via 
Jared Counts • ) 

Wikipedia

 • Matte, glossy, glass, and nanotexture (via Johnny “Decimal” Noble) 

Paperlike
Rock Paper Pencil

 • Steam Machine 

EuroGamer article about APU/GPU • (via 
DavidShaub • )

 • PlayStation 5 OS is FreeBSD-based (via 
Jesús Santaigo Narváez • ) 

Wikipedia
PS Dev Wiki

 • Steam Frame 

 • Lenses (via 
Michael • )

Spec chart • (via 
James O’Loughlin • )

Top strap image
 • Steam → Apple Vision Pro using 
ALVR • (via Iain Wallace) 

Guide on Reddit

 • SteamOS 

 • Is not universally supported (via 
DavidSchaub • )

 • Alternatives (via 
solmnmagus • ) 

Bazzite
CachyOS

 • Anti-cheat considerations (via Julian Torres)

Screw it, I’m installing Linux

 • Steam strategy 

 • Is Steam-on-ARM popular? 

Hardware survey • (via 
Lars Boris • ) 

Additional thoughts from Ava

 • Steam has only one person to answer to (via 
charlesesmith • )

Single thread performance ranking • (via 
Steven Op de beeck • )

 • “High-Res Antiglare” (via Adam Wunn)

 • John mourns 
the recent news • 

 • GPU issues (via 
Colin Cornaby • )

 • GeekBench Metal scores 

Mac Pro (2019) + AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT
Mac Studio (2025) + M3 Ultra

The Case for a True Mac Pro Successor

 • Tim Cook to step down as early as next year 

Tim Cook & Kara Swisher in 2021 • (starts at 35:51) 

 • As discussed in 
ATP #425: Hey Billionaire

Financial Times, 14 November 2025
Gruber’s take
Joe Rossignol @ Mac Rumors • 

Apple Corporate Governance Guidelines • 

 • Post-show: Declan discovers “
HyperCard • ” 

Rage-baiting

Members-only • ATP Overtime: 
The App Store on the web • 

Dan Moren @ Six Colors
MJ Tsai
Apple shipped its source maps • 

Svelte • 

 • See also: 
Apple Maps on the web • 

Announcement

 • See also: 
Apple Podcasts on the web • 

Juli Clover @ MacRumors

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666: We Have Nothing That Hot

• Follow-up: 

 • John has some new Vision Pro treats 

Flight Ready

 • In the defense of the CD-R (via Jonathan Goforth) 

ATP Tier List: Storage Media

 • Auto-generated chapters in Apple podcasts 

 • We’re dummies: ATP has a [chapter-free] bootleg

 • Some more technical details (via 
Stephen Robles • ) 

Subscriber audio chapters are a mess

 • New MacBook Pro design is 
for M6 Pro & Max only? • 

Mark Gurman’s coverage
MD101

 • Tahoe & Electron app fixes 

Discord is fixed • (via Dayton Lowell)

 • Microsoft Teams Classic is likely to 
never • get fixed (via Adam Wunn)

 • macOS Emoji Picker 

 • ⌃ ⌘ Space

Rocket

Pogo-stick robot • 

Boston Dynamics

 • A butt-dialing theory from 
Trey Carpenter

iPhone Pocket • 

Paul’s analogy
Gruber’s post

iPod Socks • 

On eBay

New Steam Hardware • 

 • Initial coverage 

Image of the new devices
Announcement video
Digital Foundry’s coverage
Dave2D’s coverage

Steam Controller • 

TMR • not 
Hall Effect
Understanding the difference

Steam Machine • 

Images on The Verge

Steam Frame • 

More photos

 • Post-show: Marco goes to 
Home Depot
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Affinity graphics apps go free, and some people are upset • 

Press release

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665: My Basement Is Beautiful

• Pre-show: Casey dropped his 17 Pro

 • 🗣️ The 
ATP Holiday Store • is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️ 

T568A & T568B • 

Idea courtesy Adam Brandon

Don’t Stop Believin’…

An aside about podcast chapters and Apple’s recent news
 • Follow-up: 

 • The current MacBook Pro design is 
from the M1 • (via 
Ben Mattison • )

 • More dashed Mac Pro dreams 

 • Apple’s internal chip codename nomenclature

 • Variants 

P • = A_

G • = A_X / A_Z / M_

S • = M_ Pro

C • = M_ Max

D • = M_ Ultra

X • = M_ Pro/Max/Ultra

 • Examples 

A11 • = 
H10P
A12X • = 
H11G
A14 • = 
H13P
M1 • = 
H13G
M2 Pro • = 
H14S

 • GPUs use 
G • instead of 
H
 • More island/chip names from 26.1 RC: 

Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/System/Library/Frameworks/Kernel.framework/Versions/A/Headers/arm/cpuid.h
Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX.sdk/usr/include/mach/machine.h
Apple codenames

John’s tale of Xcode 26.1 woe
 • John’s 
un-fixed Electron apps
More clipboard history options in macOS 26.1
 • M5 MacBook Pro speed tests 

MaxTech

 • Casey has tried the new Developer Strap 

Accessibility → Audio & Visual → Balance

An aside about nanotexture displays • 

Marco’s current iPad paper-texture overlay

 • Casey upgraded to Tahoe 

Funky sidebar icon

/r/overcast • 

Under the Radar #330: Engaging with Reddit
Meltdown in the ProCreate subreddit over a painting of Master Chief

 • Post-show: Marco plays with 3D printing 

Tinkercad
Bambu
Eric Welander’s video • about 
Gridfinity
Toybox

Members-only • ATP Overtime: 
Joanna Stern tries Neo, the household “robot” • 

WSJ Article • (or 
On Apple News+ • )

QWOP

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664: Humanity Gets in the Way

• Pre-show: Marco’s airplane neighbors 

Flighty

 • 🗣️ The 
ATP Holiday Store • is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️ 

T568A & T568B • 

Idea courtesy Adam Brandon

 • Follow-up: 

 • Vision Pro 

 • Mac Virtual Display 

 • On Intel it’s only up to 3K 🤭 (via 
Thomas Cheng • )

Apple Support

 • Tapping-and-holding × allows for hiding other windows (via Nick Anthony)

 • Vision Pro vs. ski goggles

 • Apple 🤝 Vapor Chambers 

 • Would it come to the MacBook Air (via Andy Lang)

Coming to the iPad Pro?

 • Apple’s 
MLS • deal 

…is worldwide; not US-only
Apple advertises in Korea • (via 
Jake Lee • )

 • John’s Shortcuts bug 

Calum • ’s example

Fleedar • ’s example

lukens77 on Reddit • (via 
eurozerozero • )

 • Is it 
all • Shortcuts-related files? 

Possible fix from gleeful • 

Overwrite If File Exists

 • Fixing the “iconic plateau” (via 
Gordon Mcdowell • )

The Cheesecake Factory • does, apparently, 
make everything fresh • 

ATP Inside: The Restaurant, Season One
Cube Rule

 • Mac Rumors 

M6/OLED MacBook Pro? • 

Previously from Mark Gurman

Brendan Shanks’ discovery

𝓍OS 26 β4 includes Liquid Glass toggle • 

 • iOS/iPadOS: 
Settings • → 
Display and Brightness
 • macOS: 
System Settings • → 
Appearance
Example image
 • Lock Screen swipe for camera can now be disabled, too 

Settings • → 
Camera • → 
Lock Screen Swipe to Open Camera

 • Is Tahoe safe yet? 

The Electron bug
Fixes are rolling out
Detector app by Tomas Kafka, via Craig Hockenberry
Status of popular apps

 • Post-show: More of John’s impressions of the Vision Pro

Members-only • ATP Overtime: How does one 
actually • make an app? (via 
not that coach mike • )

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663: Defending the Honor of The Cheesecake Factory

• Pre-show: More people have been infected by Goose

 • 🗣️ New 
ATP Members • ’ Special: 
ATP Insider: The Restaurant, Season One • 🗣️ 

An aside about outerwear

 • 🗣️ The 
ATP Holiday Store • is back! Order before 9 November! 🗣️ 

T568A & T568B • 

Idea courtesy Adam Brandon

 • Follow-up: 

 • Recognition corner

 • Casey begs for help 

Callsheet • 
List • bug (FB17661404) is fixed in 26.1 🎉

 • However, 
Menu(::primaryAction:) • is broken (FB20755661)

 • Some M5 Vision Pro clarifications 

 • The M5 
does • have 
Memory Integrity Enforcement

 • The M5 MacBook pro without a charger 
is • actually cheaper in most regions 

 • EU is €100 cheaper without / €35 with (via 
Nick Heer • )

UK is the same though

 • The non-determinism of LLMs (via Heiko Hotz) 

New chat
Mira Murati • ’s 
company • 
piece discussing non-determinism

 • The M5 Vision Pro 

Dual Knit Band
HDCP
Television
Theater
New Developer Strap • (behind Apple Developer paywall) 

MacRumors coverage

 • Post-show: John’s weird Finder animation bug 

AVIF

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Apple 🤝🏻 F1 in 🇺🇸 • 

Previous offerings
Apple’s bespoke F1 camera • 

Wired’s coverage

Apple’s F1-themed WWDC intro

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662: Just Break the Law

• Follow-up: 

 • Languages in Scotland

 • ATP merch has more benefits (via Christian Heiler)

 • Slide Over fade animation (via 
Daniel Luz • )

 • Marco’s iPhone case survey: 
Ryan London bare bottom • (via 
Oliver Thomas • )

/u/LaughingMan11 • is 
Benson Leung • (via 
Deta • & 
Daniel Luz • )

ZFS • and the 
Drobo • dream (via Joe) 

AnyRAID for ZFS Explained for Dummies
Hexos announcement

An aside for an argument
Apple M5
M5 Pro, M5 Max, TSMC’s SoIC • 

Ming-Chi Kuo
Chip on Wafter on Surface
Integrated Fan-Out Package-on-Package

M5 MacBook Pro
 • 

MacRumors on the [lack of] power adapter • 

Numerama

M5 iPad Pro
M5 Vision Pro • 

The Verge compares refresh rates
Sorry, no trade-ins
Logitech Muse spatial stylus

Apple TV+ is now Apple TV • 

F1: The Movie announcement post
Eddie Cue on The Town podcast
New icon

 • Post-show: iPhone setup, take two 

 • Skip all the Siri/FaceID/etc things until setup is complete

 • Don’t try to memorize the flashing 6-digit code; choose another way

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Jennifer Patterson Tuohy • 

“Temperature” on LLMs

Nilay’s take

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661: Intimate and Regimented

• Pre-show: Marco’s “Vacation” results 

Goose • 

Goose @ Richmond Allianz Ampitheater, 3 October 2025

Allianz Ampitheater
Chicken Salad Chick
Nugs.net
ZZQ
 • Suggestions from Casey, in no particular order: 

Hungersite
Give it Time
How it Ends
Dripfield

 • Follow-up: 

 • ATP in the wild 

Original report form Richard Earney • 

 • Follow-up by 
Matt Smith

 • Follow-up on Mark Christian’s report by Santiago Hervella

 • AirPods 3 

 • Ear Lottery 

Michael corroborates Marco’s experience
 • …but 
Franklin Delano Stallone offers hope
 • …and sometimes AirPods 3 are a marked improvement, reports Matthew Schaffer

Tony Dehnke does an ANC comparison
Live translation • results

David Schaub’s horror story • about filling up your phone

Mike Taffet does science on iPhone ↔ iPhone transfers
 • Marco’s USB odyssey 

Jack Wellborn had a similar experience
Syd Polk wonders if it’s a Sequoia thing
 • (Among others) 
Fabien theorizes its’ an alignment thing • 

 • Keith Heaton 
brought receipts
Tailgate Tub

Active vs. passive Thunderbolt cables • 

OWC
Informative Reddit comment by LaughingMan11

 • Synology alternatives 

 • Colin McKellar suggests 
QNAP
 • See also: 

UGREEN
Unraid
FreeNAS • /
TrueNAS
 • …

 • 🎉 
…may not be necessary anymore! • 🎉 

Coverage from Guru3D • 

SpaceRex on YouTube
Lee Hutchinson at Ars Technica

 • More more first impressions 

 • Quick AirPods Pro 3 update

 • iPhone case updates 

Omar Shahine performs surgery on the Nomad back
Torras clear case
Bullstrap open-bottom leather case
Peak Design Everyday Case • (Charcoal color has the good fabric)

 • Still to test: 
Süti PhoneBack • in black leather, if it ever ships

 • iOS 16

 • iPadOS 26: 
Now with slide-over!

Apple pulls ICEBlock from the App Store • 

Previously, in Hong Kong • 

Tim’s explanation
Response letter

Reuters’ take
MJ Tsai
Gurman on Apple succession

 • Post-show: 
Pour one a Sprite out for a real one TiVo • 

Channels
AOL dialup service ends

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Meta Ray-Ban Display • , and Apple’s response 

The Verge
Gurman: Apple pivots

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660: It’s All Chicken Salad

Apple's Yves Saint Laurent hire • and the difficulty in predicting an "iWatch". 

Technological Conservatism • .

Panic's Lightning-to-HDMI-cable discovery • .

Chris Harris on iOS 7 icons • .

 • "Free-to-play" games.

 • Coding for practice, and learning new APIs or languages.

 • Overly specialized apps.

Glympse • (Casey's road-trip-tracking app).

Feed Wrangler • by _DavidSmith as a Google Reader replacement that's compatible with 
Reeder for iPhone • .

Lex Friedman's RSS-sync roundup • .

ReadKit for Mac • as a potential 
NetNewsWire • replacement.

Dr. Drang's branch of Marco's RSS-subscriber-count script • .

 • Why is OS X version adoption slower than iOS, and could Mavericks be free?

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