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Nick & Jack Studios


Feel brighter every day with our 20-minute pop-biz news podcast. The 3 business stories you need, with fresh takes you can pretend you came up with — Pairs perfectly with your morning oatmeal ritual. Hosted by Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell. Formerly known as “Snacks Daily”, Nick and Jack continue their podcast independent from Robinhood.


The Best One Yet

Watch the interview on Youtube here: https://youtu.be/eyS-eokvP-U

Everyone laughed when Jesse and Emily Cole said they were going to save baseball by turning it into a circus. The traditionalists said it was a mockery. The investors said it wouldn't scale. Babe Ruth woulda blushed.

But today, while the Red Sox and Yankees yawn in the dugout, the Savannah Bananas are selling out those very same stadiums… while on stilts.

In this episode, we sit down with the husband-and-wife co-founders to uncover how they turned a struggling startup - with so much debt they had to sell their house - into a viral phenomenon with a waitlist of over 1 million people.

We dive deep into their "Fans First" business model, why they refuse to take VCmoney, and how "burning the boring" let them create a new sport and disrupt a 100-year-old industry.

They even got engaged in the middle of a (rainy) baseball game.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN:

The "Anti-Business" Model: • Why they refuse to take investors, sell advertising, charge for hot dogs, or collect sales taxes.
Burn The Boring: • How they audited every second of a baseball game to eliminate friction (goodbye, bunts and walks).
The "Do The Opposite" Strategy: • How a philosophy inspired by P.T. Barnum & Walt Disney helped them win in the attention economy.
Metrics vs. Magic: • Why Jesse and Emily ignore traditional ROI data to focus on "Return on Fan".
 • (And why you should check the weather before proposing)

TIMESTAMPS:

 • 0:00 - Intro: The "Cirque du Soleil" of Baseball
 • 2:05 - The Meet Cute: How Jesse & Emily Met
 • 5:20 - Why They Refused VC Money (Owning 100% Equity)
 • 6:48 - The Walt Disney Lesson on Control
 • 8:45 - Leaving $50 Million on the Table
 • 12:55 - Burning the Boring: Inventing Banana Ball
 • 19:00 - Failures: The "Human Pinata" Disaster
 • 24:00 - The Strategy: "Whatever is Normal, Do The Opposite"
 • 31:00 - Making Decisions on Intuition vs. Spreadsheets
 • 42:00 - The Story That Defines "Fans First"

 • 51:40 - Rapid Fire Questions

NEWSLETTER:

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OUR 2ND SHOW:

Want more business storytelling from us? Check our weekly deepdive show, The Best Idea Yet: The untold origin story of the products you're obsessed with. Listen for free to The Best Idea Yet: https://wondery.com/links/the-best-idea-yet/

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About Us: The daily pop-biz news show making today’s top stories your business. Formerly known as Robinhood Snacks, The Best One Yet is hosted by Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

🍌⚾ "Burn the Boring" — Savannah Bananas Co-Founders Jesse & Emily Cole

YouTube won the rights to the Oscars… because everyone’s fighting for the Living Room TV.

New travel trend? “Cousins Vacations”... Grandparents, parents, & kids spending the inheritance.

The business of Santa Clause… we jumped in TBOY-style to Klaus Industries.

Plus, the top state for Christmas movies is... CT. 

$SNTA $CLAS $GOOG

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NEWSLETTER:

https://tboypod.com/newsletter 

OUR 2ND SHOW:

Want more business storytelling from us? Check our weekly deepdive show, The Best Idea Yet: The untold origin story of the products you're obsessed with. Listen for free to The Best Idea Yet: https://wondery.com/links/the-best-idea-yet/

NEW LISTENERS

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Anything else: https://tboypod.com/ 

About Us: The daily pop-biz news show making today’s top stories your business. Formerly known as Robinhood Snacks, The Best One Yet is hosted by Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

✈️ “Living Inheritence” — Multigenerational vacations. The Oscars’ YouTubification. Santa Claus’ $11T biz. +Connecticut’s Hallmark boom.

1.6% of the US economy is Gift Cards… And 1 outta 7 of you will get a Starbucks one.

The White House launched Tech Force... $200K/yr sabbatical to make the DMV run like Airbnb.

Zillow’s getting zucked by Google, so we have an idea to save Zillow… Name Your Price.

Plus, SNL did a skit about a fake Uber Eats Wrapped… but then it really happened.

$Z $GOOG $SBUX

Buy tickets to The IPO Tour (our In-Person Offering) TODAY

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Arlington, VA (3/11): https://www.arlingtondrafthouse.com/shows/341317 

New York, NY (4/8): https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0000637AE43ED0C2

Los Angeles, CA (6/3): https://www.squadup.com/events/the-best-one-yet-live

Get your TBOY Yeti Doll gift here: https://tboypod.com/shop/product/economic-support-yeti-doll 

NEWSLETTER:

https://tboypod.com/newsletter 

OUR 2ND SHOW:

Want more business storytelling from us? Check our weekly deepdive show, The Best Idea Yet: The untold origin story of the products you're obsessed with. Listen for free to The Best Idea Yet: https://wondery.com/links/the-best-idea-yet/

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Linkedin (Nick): https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolas-martell/

Linkedin (Jack): https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-crivici-kramer/

Anything else: https://tboypod.com/ 

About Us: The daily pop-biz news show making today’s top stories your business. Formerly known as Robinhood Snacks, The Best One Yet is hosted by Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

💳 “America’s Fave Gift” — Gift Cards’ surge. White House’s Tech Force. Zillow’s Name-Yo-Price. +Uber Eats Wrapped.

Michael Bublé is the top grossing musician every December… Here's how he won Christmas music.

iRobot filed for bankruptcy… and the Roomba maker’s life story is Forest Gumpian.

Skims, Alo Yoga, & J Crew have joined the ski industry... because skiing is more than recreation.

Plus, AI toys are the gift of the season… for Chinese propaganda.

$SPOT $IRBT $VFC

Buy tickets to The IPO Tour (our In-Person Offering) TODAY

Austin, TX (2/25): https://tickets.austintheatre.org/13274/13275 

Arlington, VA (3/11): https://www.arlingtondrafthouse.com/shows/341317 

New York, NY (4/8): https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0000637AE43ED0C2

Los Angeles, CA (6/3): https://www.squadup.com/events/the-best-one-yet-live

Get your TBOY Yeti Doll gift here: https://tboypod.com/shop/product/economic-support-yeti-doll 

NEWSLETTER:

https://tboypod.com/newsletter 

OUR 2ND SHOW:

Want more business storytelling from us? Check our weekly deepdive show, The Best Idea Yet: The untold origin story of the products you're obsessed with. Listen for free to The Best Idea Yet: https://wondery.com/links/the-best-idea-yet/

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Linkedin (Jack): https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-crivici-kramer/

Anything else: https://tboypod.com/ 

About Us: The daily pop-biz news show making today’s top stories your business. Formerly known as Robinhood Snacks, The Best One Yet is hosted by Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

🎷 “Bubl-ionaire” — Michael Bublé Christmas. iRobot’s RIP. J.Crew’s Ath-ski-surewear. +AI Barbie.

The Grinch is now the top-selling IP of the holidays… Because consumers prefer the anti-hero.

Zegna’s $1,100 sneaker makes $160M/year… because the ultimate luxury is slooooooow.

Carvana is officially the craziest stock of the last 3 years… because of 43,000 problems.

Forget the Santa Rally, how about the “Dreidel Rally?”... Stocks pop for Hanukkah.

$ZGN $CVNA $SPY

Buy tickets to The IPO Tour (our In-Person Offering) TODAY

Austin, TX (2/25): https://tickets.austintheatre.org/13274/13275 

Arlington, VA (3/11): https://www.arlingtondrafthouse.com/shows/341317 

New York, NY (4/8): https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0000637AE43ED0C2

Los Angeles, CA (6/3): https://www.squadup.com/events/the-best-one-yet-live

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💚 “Grinchonomics” — The Grinch’s anti-brand. Zegna’s $1K sneaker. Carvana’s crazy stock. +Dreidel Rally

Disney invested $1 Billion in OpenAI… And licensed its top 200 characters to Sora.

Elon Musk confirmed SpaceX plans to IPO in 2026… but it’s all about the SpaceX logo on a t-shirt.

The Savannah Bananas have married co-founders… so we brought ‘em on the pod.

A woman just had a baby in a Waymo robotaxi… It’s a self-driving delivery.

$DIS $GOOG $MARS

Buy tickets to The IPO Tour (our In-Person Offering) TODAY

Austin, TX (2/25): https://tickets.austintheatre.org/13274/13275 

Arlington, VA (3/11): https://www.arlingtondrafthouse.com/shows/341317 

New York, NY (4/8): https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0000637AE43ED0C2

Los Angeles, CA (6/3): https://www.squadup.com/events/the-best-one-yet-live

Get your TBOY Yeti Doll gift here: https://tboypod.com/shop/product/economic-support-yeti-doll 

NEWSLETTER:

https://tboypod.com/newsletter 

OUR 2ND SHOW:

Want more business storytelling from us? Check our weekly deepdive show, The Best Idea Yet: The untold origin story of the products you're obsessed with. Listen for free to The Best Idea Yet: https://wondery.com/links/the-best-idea-yet/

NEW LISTENERS

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Linkedin (Nick): https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolas-martell/

Linkedin (Jack): https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-crivici-kramer/

Anything else: https://tboypod.com/ 

About Us: The daily pop-biz news show making today’s top stories your business. Formerly known as Robinhood Snacks, The Best One Yet is hosted by Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

🐭 “WaltGPT” — Disney’s OpenAI deal. SpaceX’s $1 Trillion IPO. Savannah Bananas Interview. +Waymo backseat baby

Instacart is testing different prices for different people... It’s Personalized Pricing.

University of Utah athletics just sold to PE for $500M… Wall Street is now the Quarterback.

Australia banned social media for kids under 16… Instagram & cigarettes.

In-N-Out burger won’t say the number “67” anymore (and it’s not the only one).

$CART $META $SPY

Buy tickets to The IPO Tour (our In-Person Offering) TODAY

Austin, TX (2/25): https://tickets.austintheatre.org/13274/13275 

Arlington, VA (3/11): https://www.arlingtondrafthouse.com/shows/341317 

New York, NY (4/8): https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0000637AE43ED0C2

Los Angeles, CA (6/3): https://www.squadup.com/events/the-best-one-yet-live

Get your TBOY Yeti Doll gift here: https://tboypod.com/shop/product/economic-support-yeti-doll 

NEWSLETTER:

https://tboypod.com/newsletter 

OUR 2ND SHOW:

Want more business storytelling from us? Check our weekly deepdive show, The Best Idea Yet: The untold origin story of the products you're obsessed with. Listen for free to The Best Idea Yet: https://wondery.com/links/the-best-idea-yet/

NEW LISTENERS

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Linkedin (Jack): https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-crivici-kramer/

Anything else: https://tboypod.com/ 

About Us: The daily pop-biz news show making today’s top stories your business. Formerly known as Robinhood Snacks, The Best One Yet is hosted by Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

🥔 “Surge Potato Pricing” — Instacart’s personalized pricing. Utah’s for-profit football. Australia’s teen insta-ban. +In-N-Out’s 67.

Reddit’s wedding planning surge explains why the stock has 5X’d.

1k millionaires are minted everyday from 401ks… Here's our 3-step financial advice.

America’s farmers got a $12B Soybean Bailout… while China’s trade surplus is at ATH.

Plus, pickle demand just hit an #AllTimeHigh… (it’s a big dill).

$RDDT $MCD $SPY

Buy tickets to The IPO Tour (our In-Person Offering) TODAY

Austin, TX (2/25): https://tickets.austintheatre.org/13274/13275 

Arlington, VA (3/11): https://www.arlingtondrafthouse.com/shows/341317 

New York, NY (4/8): https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0000637AE43ED0C2

Los Angeles, CA (6/3): https://www.squadup.com/events/the-best-one-yet-live

Get your TBOY Yeti Doll gift here: https://tboypod.com/shop/product/economic-support-yeti-doll 

NEWSLETTER:

https://tboypod.com/newsletter 

OUR 2ND SHOW:

Want more business storytelling from us? Check our weekly deepdive show, The Best Idea Yet: The untold origin story of the products you're obsessed with. Listen for free to The Best Idea Yet: https://wondery.com/links/the-best-idea-yet/

NEW LISTENERS

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Linkedin (Jack): https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-crivici-kramer/

Anything else: https://tboypod.com/ 

About Us: The daily pop-biz news show making today’s top stories your business. Formerly known as Robinhood Snacks, The Best One Yet is hosted by Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

👰 “r/bride” — Reddit’s wedding surge. 401k “Modest Millionaires”. Farmer’s $12B bailout. +Pickle pop.

Paramount is messing with Netflix’s Warner Bros Deal... It’s a Hostile Takeover.

Sephora’s sales are all-time-high’ing… because beauty is a game of inches.

16 Handles frozen yogurt is back… Because Froyo was a victim of its own success.

Plus, Justin Bieber is hating on this one iPhone feature… and it’s messing with $AAPL stock.

$LVMUY $PARA $NFLX

Buy tickets to The IPO Tour (our In-Person Offering) TODAY

Austin, TX (2/25): https://tickets.austintheatre.org/13274/13275 

Arlington, VA (3/11): https://www.arlingtondrafthouse.com/shows/341317 

New York, NY (4/8): https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0000637AE43ED0C2

Los Angeles, CA (6/3): https://www.squadup.com/events/the-best-one-yet-live

Get your TBOY Yeti Doll gift here: https://tboypod.com/shop/product/economic-support-yeti-doll 

WSLETTER:

https://tboypod.com/newsletter 

OUR 2ND SHOW:

Want more business storytelling from us? Check our weekly deepdive show, The Best Idea Yet: The untold origin story of the products you're obsessed with. Listen for free to The Best Idea Yet: https://wondery.com/links/the-best-idea-yet/

NEW LISTENERS

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Linkedin (Nick): https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolas-martell/

Linkedin (Jack): https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-crivici-kramer/

Anything else: https://tboypod.com/ 

About Us: The daily pop-biz news show making today’s top stories your business. Formerly known as Robinhood Snacks, The Best One Yet is hosted by Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

🍦 “Fo-Sho” — 16 Handles’ return. Paramount’s hostile takeover. Sephora’s football strategy. +Bieber’s iPhone diss.

Buy tickets to “The IPO Tour” (our In-Person Offering) TODAY

Austin, TX (2/25): https://tickets.austintheatre.org/13274/13275 

Arlington, VA (3/11): https://www.arlingtondrafthouse.com/shows/341317 

New York, NY (4/8): https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0000637AE43ED0C2

Los Angeles, CA (6/3): https://www.squadup.com/events/the-best-one-yet-live

The 3 stories on today’s pod:

Netflix splurged $83B to buy Warner Bros… it’s the ultimate Hollywood plot twist.

The hottest new restaurant on earth is run by an AI chef… who also does podcast interviews.

Nothing sells alt-Apple tech gadgets… Sales are $1B, because everything is fashion.

Plus, 8 ½-foot Santas are disappearing across the economy… 

$NFLX $WBD $AAPL $HD

Get your TBOY Yeti Doll gift here: https://tboypod.com/shop/product/economic-support-yeti-doll 

NEWSLETTER:

https://tboypod.com/newsletter 

OUR 2ND SHOW:

Want more business storytelling from us? Check our weekly deepdive show, The Best Idea Yet: The untold origin story of the products you're obsessed with. Listen for free to The Best Idea Yet: https://wondery.com/links/the-best-idea-yet/

NEW LISTENERS

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Linkedin (Jack): https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-crivici-kramer/

Anything else: https://tboypod.com/ 

About Us: The daily pop-biz news show making today’s top stories your business. Formerly known as Robinhood Snacks, The Best One Yet is hosted by Jack Crivici-Kramer & Nick Martell.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

🎬 “Batman’s New Boss” — Netflix’s buys HBO. Dubai’s AI restaurant. Nothing’s iPhone-killer. +Giant Santa shortage

Facebook just announced a $149 Portal TV device to let you video chat while binge TV-watching. Corning Glass is located in a small town in upstate New York, making the glass on your iPhone — it just snagged a $250M investment from Apple. And FedEx fell 13% on its worries about the global economy, which makes it a “leading indicator.”
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Facebook launches a TV device, Corning Glass owns your iPhone screen, and FedEx’s 13% stock drop

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