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Rich Roll

A master-class in personal and professional development, ultra-athlete, wellness evangelist and bestselling author Rich Roll delves deep with the world's brightest and most thought provoking thought leaders to educate, inspire and empower you to unleash your best, most authentic self. More at: https://richroll.com

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Imagine plunging headfirst hundreds of feet below the ocean surface — undulating ever further downward to a place where light cannot penetrate; and life hangs in the balance of a quickly diminishing singular breath.
Competitive freediving—a sport built on diving as deep as possible on a single breath—tests the limits of human ability in the most hostile environment on earth. The unique and eclectic breed of individuals who freedive at the highest level regularly reach such depths that their organs compress; and one mistake could kill them.
To freedive is to flirt with death, driven by an almost inexplicable spiritual quest to go further, deeper and beyond the imagined limits of human capability.
But freediving is also an opportunity to be free. It's a search for the authentic. An opportunity to commune with the infinite.
Today on the podcast I sit down with author and adventure journalist Adam Skolnick, who immersed himself in this extreme yet poetic subculture to tell the story of Nicholas Mevoli, America's greatest freediver and the protagonist of Adam's masterfully crafted new book, One Breath: Freediving, Death, and the Quest to Shatter Human Limits*.

Even among freedivers, few have ever gone as deep as Mevoli. A handsome young American with an unmatched talent for the sport, Nick was among freediving’s brightest stars. He was also an extraordinary individual, one who rebelled against the vapid and commoditized society around him by relentlessly questing for something more meaningful and authentic, whatever the risks. So when Nick Mevoli arrived at Vertical Blue in 2013, the world’s premier freediving competition, he was widely expected to challenge records and continue his meteoric rise to stardom.
Instead, before the end of that fateful competition Nick Mevoli had died, a victim of the sport that had made him a star.
Traveling the world writing for The New York Times, Playboy, Outside, ESPN.com, BBC.com, Salon.com, Men’s Health, Wired, and Travel + Leisure, Adam was on site to cover Vertical Blue when he became a direct witness to Nick's passing. His first-hand account landed on the front page of The New York Times, quickly went viral and set the stage for One Breath — a remarkably engaging exploration of Nick's unforgettable story and the sport which shaped and ultimately destroyed him.
In the vein of Into The Wild and Born To Run, One Breath is one of the best books I have read in a long time. And I read a lot of books.
Today we unpack this mysterious subculture and the remarkable athleticism of its inhabitants. But at it's core, this is a quite compelling conversation about passion. An examination of obsession, escapism, and the spiritual yearning for authenticity.
I really love this one. So sit back, inhale one deep breath, and submerge yourself in the world of Adam Skolnick.
Peace + Plants,
Rich

Adam Skolnick’s One Breath: The Spiritual Allure of Freediving Through the Life & Death of Nick Mevoli, America’s Greatest Talent

In the most health-obsessed society ever, all is not well. At the root lies a sleeping giant: unhealed trauma.

Here to help us further explore this profound insight is renowned speaker and bestselling author, Dr. Gabor Maté.

Returning for his second appearance on the show (his first being RRP #188) Dr. Maté is an expert in a wide range of topics, best known for his work on the relationship between addiction and childhood development.

If you are interested in truly understanding the nature of addiction, his book In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts is an essential read that has influenced me profoundly.

Dr. Maté’s latest and most ambitious book to date is The Myth of Normal, a groundbreaking extrapolation of his addiction thesis that investigates the true causes of illness, the many ways in which our society breeds disease, and the pathway to health and well-being.

Over the course of this conversation, Dr. Maté brilliantly illuminates what we can do to course correct and heal as individuals, and as a collective society at large.

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I have great reverence for this man, and my hope is that Dr. Maté’s words inspire you to rethink your own behavioral compulsions, redress your own unhealed pain, and in turn treat those who suffer with more compassion and understanding.

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Rich

Dr. Gabor Maté On How Trauma Fuels Disease

As the new year unfolds, resolutions often falter, particularly those related to food habits. Acknowledge this truth with gravitas—most diets fail most of the time. Neuroscientist Dr. Jud Brewer challenges conventional weight loss wisdom, exposing the myth of willpower from a neuroscience perspective.
In his third podcast appearance (RRP episodes 471 and 586), Dr. Brewer, Brown University’s Mindfulness Center director and School of Public Health and Psychiatry professor, delves into his latest book, The Hunger Habit. Drawing on two decades with thousands of patients, he advocates attention, mindfulness, and curiosity for healthier choices.
Evolutionarily, our brains, seeking certainty, create habit loops with triggers, behaviors, and results. The reinforcing dopamine spritz forms a stubbornly resistant, recalcitrant loop. Dr. Brewer scientifically addresses breaking these habits.
Today, we explore the neuroscience of habits, dopamine’s role, the absence of willpower in behavior change, and the importance of self-acceptance. 
Note: This discussion may be confronting for those with eating disorders; seek help at www.nationaleatingdisorders.org.
Dr. Brewer’s blend of Eastern traditions and hard science provides practical solutions. This episode is a must-listen if you’re wrestling with cravings or food compulsions.

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Breaking Hunger Habits: Dr. Jud Brewer On How To Fix A Broken Relationship With Food

Dr. Charan Ranganath is a prominent neuroscientist, a professor at UC Davis, and the author of the influential book “Why We Remember.” 

This conversation explores the profound intersection of neuroscience and human experience. Charan reveals that our most resonant memories resemble paintings more than photographs, continuously reshaped by the present moment. We discuss the role of memory in identity, survival, and healing, as well as its implications in our digital age. 

During our exchange, I gained insight into why my cherished memories might be less reliable than I had previously believed. 

Charan is an impressive yet approachable voice in memory science. This exploration might make you question your narrative. Enjoy!

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The Neuroscience Of Memory: Deja Vu, Photographic Memory, Improving Cognition & Why We Remember With Charan Ranganath, PhD

Josh Szeps is a renowned broadcaster, host of Uncomfortable Conversations, and a former voice of Australia’s public radio who brings discernment to our most difficult dialogues.

This conversation explores why genuine dialogue matters in an age of tribal certainties. We discuss the derangement of our information landscape, the erosion of shared truth, and how to navigate today’s most contentious issues with grace and humor.

Josh is a rare voice who can untangle complex issues without amplifying division. Our exchange is both timely and necessary. Enjoy!

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An Uncomfortable Conversation With Josh Szeps: Media Silos, Disagreeing With Grace, Protecting Liberal Democracy, & What The 2024 Election Was Really About

Harley Finkelstein is Shopify’s President and an entrepreneur who started his first company at 13.

This conversation explores the intersection of commerce and personal growth through Harley’s iconoclastic lens. We discuss democratizing entrepreneurship, the role of anxiety as fuel for achievement, and why this might be the most generative moment in history to start a business.

Harley challenges my self-perception as an entrepreneur, forcing me to untether from limiting beliefs about what it means to build something meaningful.

Sharp, vulnerable, and endlessly optimistic—this exchange offers a fresh take on modern entrepreneurship. Enjoy!

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Entrepreneurship Is A Mindset: Shopify President Harley Finkelstein On Why Failure Is The Path To Success

Dr. Rangan Chatterjee is a renowned physician, one of Britain’s most influential medical voices, and author of the new book, “Make Change That Lasts.”

This conversation explores the intersection of neuroscience and human potential as it introduces his groundbreaking concept of “minimal reliance.” Dr. Chatterjee deconstructs why we remain tethered to patterns that no longer serve us, while offering actionable tools for lasting change.

Don’t miss this conversation—it might transform your thoughts about personal evolution. 

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Make Change That Lasts: Break Free From Bad Habits & Transform Your Life For Good With Dr. Rangan Chatterjee

We are here to grow. We are here to transform. This is our birthright. This is our purpose.
 
As the year ends, I want to honor this truth by sharing insights from some of the most remarkable voices who joined us in 2024. In this first of our two-part Best Of series, we revisit conversations that challenged and inspired us to reach higher.
 
From stories of survival and rebirth, to breakthroughs in longevity science and brain health, to raw conversations about athletics and consciousness—each guest illuminated different paths to living authentically and purposefully.
 
I’m deeply grateful to our guests for their candor, to my team for their dedication, and to our sponsors for their continued support.
 
But most of all, I’m grateful for you, the listener. Your presence and engagement make this journey worthwhile. I never take that for granted.
 
Thank you for growing with us. Here’s to an extraordinary 2025.

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The Best Of 2024: Part One

In this concluding chapter of our “Best Of” 2024 series, we share wisdom from an extraordinary group of changemakers who challenged our assumptions and expanded our possibilities.
 
From a septuagenarian fitness icon to Spider-Man himself, from free solo climbers to modern mystics—each guest illuminated different facets of human potential. Their stories of courage, creativity, and conscious living remind us that transformation is always possible.
 
I’m deeply grateful to our guests for their vulnerability, to my team for their dedication, and to our sponsors for their continued support.
 
But most of all, I’m grateful for you, the listener. Your willingness to grow and transform alongside us makes this journey meaningful.
 
Thank you for sharing another remarkable year. Here’s to an extraordinary 2025.

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The Best Of 2024: Part Two

Mark Manson is a renowned author and cultural critic, known for “The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck”—a global phenomenon that has remained on the NYT bestseller list for an unprecedented 328 weeks.
 
This conversation explores the paradox between genuine growth and modern self-help culture. We discuss Mark’s dramatic transformation, his contrarian views on personal development, why being intelligent often hinders change, and how the most effective solutions in life are typically the boring ones no one wants to hear about.
 
In today’s metrics-driven landscape, he reveals how to navigate content creation with integrity.
 
Mark is endlessly insightful. This one is profound and irreverently fun. Enjoy!

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The (Not So) Subtle Art Of Mark Manson: The Truth About Self-Help, Transformation, & Life Advice That Doesn’t Suck

Dr. Matthew Nagra is a Vancouver-based naturopathic doctor and nutrition researcher who tackles misinformation around diet and nutrition on social media.

This conversation dismantles nutrition's most malevolent misconceptions—from seed oil hysteria to carnivore evangelism. We explore how tribal allegiances have replaced science, why plant proteins aren't inferior, and the rise of LDL denialism. Matt systematically debunks myths while exposing the cherry-picked studies fueling dietary tribalism.

In doing so, he shows us how to distinguish between legitimate research and algorithmic propaganda.

Matt is a myth-busting extraordinaire. This exchange cuts straight through the noise. Enjoy!

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Dr. Matthew Nagra Makes The Ultimate Case For A Plant-Based Diet: Busting Nutrition Myths Around Seed Oils, Soy, Protein, & More

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