Not a Rodent: Interview Recap

“You are not a rodent.”

Revisiting a 2021 Habits Habit Interview by Brian Conroy – Through the Lens of AI and the Scientific Method

“Behavioral science may finally be catching up.”

Catching up to what?

To a simple and powerful truth:

P.A.R.R. (Plan, Act, Record, Reassess) mirrors the scientific method.

When it comes to building habits intentionally, it’s a far superior framework than the overhyped “habit loop.”

🐭 The habit loop? Developed by studying rodents in a maze.

Yet humans can choose their habits.Plan (intend) their habits.And reflect upon their efforts.

Rodents cannot.

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In this episode, we tap into Google’s Notebook LM and upload a 2021 interview I did with Brian Conroy (The Habits Habit podcast). It’s now available as a rich, AI-hosted breakdown—produced like a mini-NPR segment.

Why revisit it now?

Because:

The interview explores how P.A.R.R. is the true human-centric alternative to cue–routine–reward.

It highlights the 15+ year journey behind The Habit Factor®.

It covers why habit ≠ skill… yet they are fraternal twins.

It breaks down the limitations of SMART goals (to-do lists and “next steps”) versus the power of tracking core, related behaviors—habits!

It explains how your character (habitus) is the sum of your habits—past, present, and future.

How P.A.R.R. is the only habit-building framework that not only mirrors the scientific method, but is intentionally designed to cultivate habit strength and automaticity.

P.A.R.R. = The Scientific Method for Behavior Change and Habit Development

Plan = Observe, Question, & Hypothesis

Act = Experiment

Record = Gather Data

Reassess = Analysis & Adjustment

And yes, as the AI hosts correctly observe:You are not a rodent. 🐭

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Tracking isn’t a chore—it’s an asset.It reinforces desire. Affirms intention. Builds discipline. And sharpens focus.

Tired of spinning your wheels?

Listen in. Take notes. Start tracking your behavior.

And always remember:You are both the program and the programmer.

🎧 Listen to the full episode at Habits2Goals.substack.com📥 Or download your free P.A.R.R. tracking template at thehabitfactor.com/templates

“Science is catching up.”And you don’t have to wait.

Start habit tracking today by following P.A.R.R.

And—due to my unexpected trip to Sweden—the UBM white paper release is now likely to land in July.

👊🫵💪🏽🙌🏽🙏~mg

🚨 Tracking News Breakthrough Incoming:What science still doesn’t understand about the true power of habit tracking—…and what we’re about to reveal.

Why Experts Keep Dismissing Habit Tracking—And Why That’s a Massive MistakeThe overlooked key to intentional behavior change is hiding in plain sight.

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A respectful invitation to the academic community:

If you’re part of a university psychology department—or a related behavioral science discipline—we warmly invite you to review, challenge, and explore the Unified Behavior Model™.

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